toggleswitch2
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Sin? What sin?
If there is guilt there is always confession.............
If there is guilt there is always confession.............
Hello, My Name Is Laundress And I Am An Appliance Addict
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That's a great little washer, Launderess. Dead cat-flinging issues aside, I think you made an excellent vintage purchase. If everything seems to be working well mechanically, I'd put the hum/buzz down to "character". Enjoy!
mrb627
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No cure...
Alas, there is no cure, just treatment
Alas, there is no cure, just treatment
macboy91si
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Buzz and a Surgilator
My Lady K Portable does the humming buzzing sometimes, I finally got the cabinet off of it, but I don't see anything but a slightly worn belt. I think I much prefer the Whirlpool version with the surgilator though, the Lady K straight vane is splashy and lame (causes a lot of billowing).
Are the whirlpool and the lady K portables' agitators interchangeable? I would love a surgilator in there.
Nice looking little machine though.
-Tim
My Lady K Portable does the humming buzzing sometimes, I finally got the cabinet off of it, but I don't see anything but a slightly worn belt. I think I much prefer the Whirlpool version with the surgilator though, the Lady K straight vane is splashy and lame (causes a lot of billowing).
Are the whirlpool and the lady K portables' agitators interchangeable? I would love a surgilator in there.
Nice looking little machine though.
-Tim
macboy91si
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What is the Model Number?
What's your model number of that little gem?
What's your model number of that little gem?
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Dryer in background
Launderess;
What is the make of that white dryer in the background?
Gary
Launderess;
What is the make of that white dryer in the background?
Gary
Insitutionalised
But never rehabilitated!
It's OK, the nice doctor will see all of us now with the jacket of life!
But never rehabilitated!
It's OK, the nice doctor will see all of us now with the jacket of life!
mickeyd
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If you prefer to use only one hose, less mess and flopping a
1. Buy a brass cap and and cap off the cold inlet
2. attach a quick connect to the hot inlet--available at Home Depot or any cool old Manhattan hardware store I'm sure
3. keep the temps set to hot or warm
4. you're in business
Glad you liked the flick; wish I could link it.
Here's a pic of the water fall rather than the previous fill pic (late nite mistake)
Our machines are identical, except that front of your is MINT and GOLDEN
MACBOY the standard size surgilator fits but the currents are insane, tried it a few times for fun); pretty sure the KM will take a WP, seems they're all interchangeable. Smart, efficient engineering.
LAUNDRESS: you're going to have so much fun with this washer; it may become your daily driver.
1. Buy a brass cap and and cap off the cold inlet
2. attach a quick connect to the hot inlet--available at Home Depot or any cool old Manhattan hardware store I'm sure
3. keep the temps set to hot or warm
4. you're in business
Glad you liked the flick; wish I could link it.
Here's a pic of the water fall rather than the previous fill pic (late nite mistake)
Our machines are identical, except that front of your is MINT and GOLDEN
MACBOY the standard size surgilator fits but the currents are insane, tried it a few times for fun); pretty sure the KM will take a WP, seems they're all interchangeable. Smart, efficient engineering.
LAUNDRESS: you're going to have so much fun with this washer; it may become your daily driver.
The belt drive machines like yours had a much higher spin speed than the direct drives. They were much better for use with the 24 inch 110 volt dryers that were often paired with them in apartment installations.
If by short cycle, you meant the delicate cycle, the motor in these machines is often louder on low speed than high.
Congratulations
If by short cycle, you meant the delicate cycle, the motor in these machines is often louder on low speed than high.
Congratulations
mickeyd
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So smart, Tom
I forgot, hoping L's machine was going to be fine, but the delicate cycle is indeed loud with a distinct buzzing throughout the wash, but dear Thomas the belt drive portables had a much higher spin speed than the regular belt drives as well--way way faster, 300+
I forgot, hoping L's machine was going to be fine, but the delicate cycle is indeed loud with a distinct buzzing throughout the wash, but dear Thomas the belt drive portables had a much higher spin speed than the regular belt drives as well--way way faster, 300+
toggleswitch2
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Stateed previously
1. Buy a brass cap and and cap off the cold inlet
2. attach a quick connect to the hot inlet--available at Home Depot or any cool old Manhattan hardware store I'm sure
3. keep the temps set to hot or warm
4. you're in business
Due to cold rinses, one has to cap-off the hot water inlet valve and use "cold" or "warm" as a wash temp.
There are also metal pieces that connect the two valves, to be fed from one (water inlet) hose.
1. Buy a brass cap and and cap off the cold inlet
2. attach a quick connect to the hot inlet--available at Home Depot or any cool old Manhattan hardware store I'm sure
3. keep the temps set to hot or warm
4. you're in business
Due to cold rinses, one has to cap-off the hot water inlet valve and use "cold" or "warm" as a wash temp.
There are also metal pieces that connect the two valves, to be fed from one (water inlet) hose.
mickeyd
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HI Stevey
You'll still get a cold rinse if you set the temps to warm, but if you do it your way and have the wash set to hot and forget, you'll get no water and for a second think the washer is broken and have a panic attack ;'D
Also, and you'll know this better than I will: Isn't it safer to inlet cold thru the hot rather than hot thru the cold, i.e., is the cold not meant to take hot water or are the valves and their components identical ? I don't know, just thought that the cold can't take heat, whereas the hot is made to take anything. Do you know for sure. I bet you do.
You don't need the Y hose; it's cumbersome and redundant, not to mention WAY MORE WORK> ;=> And Cimberlie says that she has only one tap available.
You'll still get a cold rinse if you set the temps to warm, but if you do it your way and have the wash set to hot and forget, you'll get no water and for a second think the washer is broken and have a panic attack ;'D
Also, and you'll know this better than I will: Isn't it safer to inlet cold thru the hot rather than hot thru the cold, i.e., is the cold not meant to take hot water or are the valves and their components identical ? I don't know, just thought that the cold can't take heat, whereas the hot is made to take anything. Do you know for sure. I bet you do.
You don't need the Y hose; it's cumbersome and redundant, not to mention WAY MORE WORK> ;=> And Cimberlie says that she has only one tap available.
Hello Lads
Well it is getting VERY crowded around here! Spent a good part of the morning moving things about to fit the new arrival! Suffice to say the Hoover TT has now become a "table" with the aid of a tablecloth draped over the thing! *LOL*
Hose Connections:
MikeyD and Toggles: Great minds think alike, but once one heard the cost of a quick connect kit (Sears PartsDirect genuine Whirlpool part, cost $98 before shipping), moved onto plan B. Will cap over the hot inlet, (water level dial on this machine lists either Warm/Cold or Cold/Cold as "manual water selection", and get rid of the two hose with "Y" connector. Unlike my Miele which must have both water inlets connected, this machine works fine with one, and as water temp will be controlled by the faucet anyway, don't see the need to clutter things up with more hoses than required.
Ordered an 8' drain hose, and will nip down to local hardware or HD for an 8' inlet hose and brass cap if it ever stops raining.
Loud noise only on Delicates or Knits? Who knew, and will investigate further once have hoses in house. Planned on using those settings allot since the agitator action on "Normal" is powerful, but I don't know now. *LOL*
Still, don't think the noise is the motor, it seemed to be coming from the back of the unit midway down. IIRC it went on during all phases of the cycle. Rather sounded like an alarm clock.
MacBoy:
Model number for my washer is LC4900XM. Have posted link to owner's manual below.
These units were sold to be used as either portable or stationary. Dryer in the background at seller's house is a Westinghouse and it was for sale as well, but one had no need.
Well it is getting VERY crowded around here! Spent a good part of the morning moving things about to fit the new arrival! Suffice to say the Hoover TT has now become a "table" with the aid of a tablecloth draped over the thing! *LOL*
Hose Connections:
MikeyD and Toggles: Great minds think alike, but once one heard the cost of a quick connect kit (Sears PartsDirect genuine Whirlpool part, cost $98 before shipping), moved onto plan B. Will cap over the hot inlet, (water level dial on this machine lists either Warm/Cold or Cold/Cold as "manual water selection", and get rid of the two hose with "Y" connector. Unlike my Miele which must have both water inlets connected, this machine works fine with one, and as water temp will be controlled by the faucet anyway, don't see the need to clutter things up with more hoses than required.
Ordered an 8' drain hose, and will nip down to local hardware or HD for an 8' inlet hose and brass cap if it ever stops raining.
Loud noise only on Delicates or Knits? Who knew, and will investigate further once have hoses in house. Planned on using those settings allot since the agitator action on "Normal" is powerful, but I don't know now. *LOL*
Still, don't think the noise is the motor, it seemed to be coming from the back of the unit midway down. IIRC it went on during all phases of the cycle. Rather sounded like an alarm clock.
MacBoy:
Model number for my washer is LC4900XM. Have posted link to owner's manual below.
These units were sold to be used as either portable or stationary. Dryer in the background at seller's house is a Westinghouse and it was for sale as well, but one had no need.
Water Connections for One Faucet Operation
If one examines the owner's manual (see link above), and pictures of the back of my unit (also above), you will see only two connections, the upper inlet (cold), and drain hose (lower right side of the machine). The hot is capped off.
If one examines the owner's manual (see link above), and pictures of the back of my unit (also above), you will see only two connections, the upper inlet (cold), and drain hose (lower right side of the machine). The hot is capped off.
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~HI Stevey. You'll still get a cold rinse if you set the temps to warm, but if you do it your way and have the wash set to hot and forget, you'll get no water and for a second think the washer is broken and have a panic attack ;'D
MIKEY!
Ah, but capping off the cold side and filling the machine through the hot valve means you won't get ANY type of rinsing if the defualt of the machine is a cold rinse.
Back in the 80s there were two less-bionics in my apartment building in Kew Gardens, Queens who had such washer and set the dial for "Hot" Their "hot" was capped off to use the quick-conect connector
They called me an hour later and wondered why the machine wasn't filling and WHERE the water had gone after all that time. I was not able to penetrate (with my answers) but I simply said just leave it on "warm/cold" or warm/warm at all times, and select the temperature at the faucet.
I simply refused to let them change my car's oil, points spark plugs and rotate my tires.
MIKEY!
Ah, but capping off the cold side and filling the machine through the hot valve means you won't get ANY type of rinsing if the defualt of the machine is a cold rinse.
Back in the 80s there were two less-bionics in my apartment building in Kew Gardens, Queens who had such washer and set the dial for "Hot" Their "hot" was capped off to use the quick-conect connector
They called me an hour later and wondered why the machine wasn't filling and WHERE the water had gone after all that time. I was not able to penetrate (with my answers) but I simply said just leave it on "warm/cold" or warm/warm at all times, and select the temperature at the faucet.
I simply refused to let them change my car's oil, points spark plugs and rotate my tires.
The belt drive machines LIKE YOURS
I thought I made it clear we were discussing her washer; that's why I said the spin speed was faster than on the direct drive portable machines that replaced the belt drive portables like hers.
I thought I made it clear we were discussing her washer; that's why I said the spin speed was faster than on the direct drive portable machines that replaced the belt drive portables like hers.
mickeyd
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Hi Steve Hi Tom
My cold valve is capped off and the machine works fine on Hot/Warm, but the control dial lists Warm/Cold and Cold/Cold as the manual selections. I was mistaken in thinking that a cold water valve would have difficulty with hot water.
MY machine and HER machine are identical except in color, same year, same model and belt driven. I did not know that the later direct drive portables had a slower spin than the BD's. MY point in the video "Dorthy Street Wash Machines" and in the discussions was the SHOCK on learning of such a fast spin in the portables instead of the formerly consistent and notorious slow spins of BD KM/WP's.
Why, Tom, did they not make the standard machines spin as fast as the portables, and why did they slow down the spin in the later DD's. Can you make sense of it for me, please. Thank you.
(I do have a full size Whilpool from the mid-nineties discussed in another thread; maybe I confused the issue. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa !) Or the whole Confiteor if you'd like, in Latin or English or both.)
Hoping for continued friendship as it was before we left.
Michaeli
My cold valve is capped off and the machine works fine on Hot/Warm, but the control dial lists Warm/Cold and Cold/Cold as the manual selections. I was mistaken in thinking that a cold water valve would have difficulty with hot water.
MY machine and HER machine are identical except in color, same year, same model and belt driven. I did not know that the later direct drive portables had a slower spin than the BD's. MY point in the video "Dorthy Street Wash Machines" and in the discussions was the SHOCK on learning of such a fast spin in the portables instead of the formerly consistent and notorious slow spins of BD KM/WP's.
Why, Tom, did they not make the standard machines spin as fast as the portables, and why did they slow down the spin in the later DD's. Can you make sense of it for me, please. Thank you.
(I do have a full size Whilpool from the mid-nineties discussed in another thread; maybe I confused the issue. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa !) Or the whole Confiteor if you'd like, in Latin or English or both.)
Hoping for continued friendship as it was before we left.
Michaeli
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I just have to wonder
if anybody listens to me around here. Laundress, here's your question:
Loud noise only on Delicates or Knits? Who knew, and will investigate further once have hoses in house. Planned on using those settings allot since the agitator action on "Normal" is powerful, but I don't know now. *LOL*
Still, don't think the noise is the motor, it seemed to be coming from the back of the unit midway down. IIRC it went on during all phases of the cycle. Rather sounded like an alarm clock.
And here's my answer:
First, I have the EXACT same machine that you do, except mine is model number LFC4900Y0. They left out the F in yours, probably because it's a slightly later model. But I can't say for certain because I know absolutely nothing about model numbers.
Anyway. About that "buzzing" sound. Older mechanical machines like these are more prone to vibrations, because there is no insulation in the cabinets. They are NOISY, more so than the brand new stuff we're all accustomed to these days. Plastic parts, metal parts, and anything without a rubber grommet is going to resonate across the whole outfit, starting from the motor connecting to the chassis. I'm afraid there's not much you can do about it, as mine does the exact same thing. And is it louder in the knit and delicate cycles???? You're darn tootin' it is! Way louder! That's why I don't like using the slow agitation.
NorfolkSouthern
if anybody listens to me around here. Laundress, here's your question:
Loud noise only on Delicates or Knits? Who knew, and will investigate further once have hoses in house. Planned on using those settings allot since the agitator action on "Normal" is powerful, but I don't know now. *LOL*
Still, don't think the noise is the motor, it seemed to be coming from the back of the unit midway down. IIRC it went on during all phases of the cycle. Rather sounded like an alarm clock.
And here's my answer:
First, I have the EXACT same machine that you do, except mine is model number LFC4900Y0. They left out the F in yours, probably because it's a slightly later model. But I can't say for certain because I know absolutely nothing about model numbers.
Anyway. About that "buzzing" sound. Older mechanical machines like these are more prone to vibrations, because there is no insulation in the cabinets. They are NOISY, more so than the brand new stuff we're all accustomed to these days. Plastic parts, metal parts, and anything without a rubber grommet is going to resonate across the whole outfit, starting from the motor connecting to the chassis. I'm afraid there's not much you can do about it, as mine does the exact same thing. And is it louder in the knit and delicate cycles???? You're darn tootin' it is! Way louder! That's why I don't like using the slow agitation.
NorfolkSouthern
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The proof...
Is in the money shot. And again, mine also makes that "alarm clock hum" during its cycle.
NorfolkSouthern
Is in the money shot. And again, mine also makes that "alarm clock hum" during its cycle.
NorfolkSouthern
Ok, Ok! Message Received!
Loud and clear!
Was hoping for something slightly quieter than the Hoover TT, but suppose one could put on some background music or the telly to drown out the "noise".
Wanted a second washer (ok, third)to take some of the work off my Miele. Not that the old girl is slowing down, but she is going on and parts are becoming hard to find, as well as Miele techs willing to work on "old" models. My main concerns are the bearings and motor. Once either goes the machine will have to be put out to pasture as not one Miele repair person locally has the tools (think winch)and desire to do that sort of work. For most it really is more than their job is worth.
Speaking of the Miele, there are times when one either has just a small load of laundry, or wishes to plough through large amounts quickly. Waiting around 45mins to over an hour often is not what one desires. Yes, it is possible to get through lots of laundry quickly with a Hoover TT, that unit presents it's own set of problems.
NorthfolkSouthern:
What did you use to get the plastic inner tub rim so clean and shiny? Am going to run the unit with some VERY hot water and dishwasher cleaner (letting it sit for a bit), to clean out any gunk,mould,germs, scrud and so forth between tubs and so forth, but don't wish to risk scratching or ethching the plastic.
Also can anyone suggest what to do, if anything about the slightest beginnings of rust around some of the tub holes? You cannot really see it in the pictures, but a few of the holes around the bottom of the tub have a faint tinge of rust.
Thanks again all for the well wishes and advice!
L.
Loud and clear!
Was hoping for something slightly quieter than the Hoover TT, but suppose one could put on some background music or the telly to drown out the "noise".
Wanted a second washer (ok, third)to take some of the work off my Miele. Not that the old girl is slowing down, but she is going on and parts are becoming hard to find, as well as Miele techs willing to work on "old" models. My main concerns are the bearings and motor. Once either goes the machine will have to be put out to pasture as not one Miele repair person locally has the tools (think winch)and desire to do that sort of work. For most it really is more than their job is worth.
Speaking of the Miele, there are times when one either has just a small load of laundry, or wishes to plough through large amounts quickly. Waiting around 45mins to over an hour often is not what one desires. Yes, it is possible to get through lots of laundry quickly with a Hoover TT, that unit presents it's own set of problems.
NorthfolkSouthern:
What did you use to get the plastic inner tub rim so clean and shiny? Am going to run the unit with some VERY hot water and dishwasher cleaner (letting it sit for a bit), to clean out any gunk,mould,germs, scrud and so forth between tubs and so forth, but don't wish to risk scratching or ethching the plastic.
Also can anyone suggest what to do, if anything about the slightest beginnings of rust around some of the tub holes? You cannot really see it in the pictures, but a few of the holes around the bottom of the tub have a faint tinge of rust.
Thanks again all for the well wishes and advice!
L.
