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Most of the time, I can get a plastic tub clean with just plain water and a dish rag. Dawn dishwashing liquid or something similar will also help. You may also want to scrub where the rust holes are on the porcelain with a WHITE scrubber sponge, and again, some Dawn dishwashing liquid.
Have you tried removing the tub ring yet? It comes in two parts. First, you remove the hoses, then there are four snaps, one on each corner, that you carefully unlatch with your thumb and forefinger. You don't want to break the plastic snaps. Gently lift each corner as you do this. The lower part of the tub ring removes with metal snaps, which I unhinge and spring back by hand. You may need a screwdriver, though. After those are removed, you can gently lift the ring off the tub assembly. Then, you can clean off any gunk that may have accumulated there.
If you feel a little more daring: The agitator has a cap with a screwdriver slot. Remove the cap, and then remove the nut with a socket. Now lift off the agitator. Next, get a spanner wrench and remove the big spanner nut CLOCKWISE. Then, you should be able to get the spin basket off. On my inner tub, I used some Rustoleum Primer and Rustoleum gloss black protective paint. I wouldn't go that far if I didn't have to, but it may not be a bad idea to see how that area has held up over the years. It's out of sight, and out of mind for most of us. Yet that's what holds the water and keeps your kitchen floor from flooding with water, detergent, and fabric softener!
Sorry about the bad photo, I didn't have a tripod at the time.
NorfolkSouthern
Have you tried removing the tub ring yet? It comes in two parts. First, you remove the hoses, then there are four snaps, one on each corner, that you carefully unlatch with your thumb and forefinger. You don't want to break the plastic snaps. Gently lift each corner as you do this. The lower part of the tub ring removes with metal snaps, which I unhinge and spring back by hand. You may need a screwdriver, though. After those are removed, you can gently lift the ring off the tub assembly. Then, you can clean off any gunk that may have accumulated there.
If you feel a little more daring: The agitator has a cap with a screwdriver slot. Remove the cap, and then remove the nut with a socket. Now lift off the agitator. Next, get a spanner wrench and remove the big spanner nut CLOCKWISE. Then, you should be able to get the spin basket off. On my inner tub, I used some Rustoleum Primer and Rustoleum gloss black protective paint. I wouldn't go that far if I didn't have to, but it may not be a bad idea to see how that area has held up over the years. It's out of sight, and out of mind for most of us. Yet that's what holds the water and keeps your kitchen floor from flooding with water, detergent, and fabric softener!
Sorry about the bad photo, I didn't have a tripod at the time.
NorfolkSouthern
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I forgot to mention:
In order to get to the plastic tub ring, there are two snaps that latch the top cabinet assembly in place. First, tape the lid down. then, use a putty knife to push in each side and it'll unlatch. The top will now open like the hood of a car. Now you can marvel at all the hoses, wires, and other do-dads!
NorfolkSouthern
In order to get to the plastic tub ring, there are two snaps that latch the top cabinet assembly in place. First, tape the lid down. then, use a putty knife to push in each side and it'll unlatch. The top will now open like the hood of a car. Now you can marvel at all the hoses, wires, and other do-dads!
NorfolkSouthern
Oh No!
Am not mechanically inclined enough to handle taking apart and such of this washer. When time comes for an overhaul, will call for repairman. Have a set of pumps on the way that fit this unit, should the need arise of course, but that is about far as one is going.
L.
Am not mechanically inclined enough to handle taking apart and such of this washer. When time comes for an overhaul, will call for repairman. Have a set of pumps on the way that fit this unit, should the need arise of course, but that is about far as one is going.
L.
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If your machine works and doesn't leak
Then I wouldn't worry so much about it. But if you ever do need to fix it, there is quite a bit of info here. I fully intend to keep mine, so I can help others who come across these fine little critters. They're just so darn cute! Now, if I just had a decent video camera and editing software.
NorfolkSouthern
Then I wouldn't worry so much about it. But if you ever do need to fix it, there is quite a bit of info here. I fully intend to keep mine, so I can help others who come across these fine little critters. They're just so darn cute! Now, if I just had a decent video camera and editing software.
NorfolkSouthern
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Very nice machine! Launderess...
I know you will enjoy it.
I only had a chance once in my life to use a portable washer, I have got the washer from and artist for 50 buck's.. A Sanyo pulse wash disk washer for my mother. We loved it at the time because we where in a little apartment it stayed in a closet in the hallway. I would drag it across the hallway and thru the carpet to the kitchen sink...And hook it up and adjust the temp for the wash cycle, warm for most loads and after the fill change it to cold for the rinses. The machine was very quit but a real twister, I would do at least nine loads a session. And then take them to the basement where they where a pair of G.E. coin op's 35 cent's to dry.
Ooh well the washing was fun in the house ... But the drying was not lol.
Well that was in the 80's, Now my mother is in a high rise apartment and it has not changed to much, I have to go down the basement from the ninth floor to do my mom's laundry and they have all Whirlpool laundry and a one front load
Speed Queen washer...Half card system.. and the Speed Queen takes coins.
What will you wash in that little pool ?
Darren k.
I know you will enjoy it.
I only had a chance once in my life to use a portable washer, I have got the washer from and artist for 50 buck's.. A Sanyo pulse wash disk washer for my mother. We loved it at the time because we where in a little apartment it stayed in a closet in the hallway. I would drag it across the hallway and thru the carpet to the kitchen sink...And hook it up and adjust the temp for the wash cycle, warm for most loads and after the fill change it to cold for the rinses. The machine was very quit but a real twister, I would do at least nine loads a session. And then take them to the basement where they where a pair of G.E. coin op's 35 cent's to dry.
Ooh well the washing was fun in the house ... But the drying was not lol.
Well that was in the 80's, Now my mother is in a high rise apartment and it has not changed to much, I have to go down the basement from the ninth floor to do my mom's laundry and they have all Whirlpool laundry and a one front load
Speed Queen washer...Half card system.. and the Speed Queen takes coins.
What will you wash in that little pool ?
Darren k.
Love it! I had one of these for a bit but it was far too worn out to repair. Love the waterflow filter. Still on my list of machines to have! Good luck with it.
Eric,
Actually machine came from down your way (Hillside, NJ).
One had to act fast before YOU got wind of it! *LOL*
L.
Actually machine came from down your way (Hillside, NJ).
One had to act fast before YOU got wind of it! *LOL*
L.
If you were willing to use the putty knife to release the two clips and raise the top, you could not only scrub the top ring of the outer tub or run it through the DW, but you could also go to an auto parts store or go online and buy some pads of heavy duty sound damping insulation and put it on the inside walls of the cabinet.
Ok, Next Saga! A Leak,. A LEAK!
Drain hose arrived today and therefore was able to complete the putting on new hoses and running the washer through all it's paces, full stop.
Timer works well, that is cycles do what the are supposed to do, and machine fills and drains without a problem
Let the machine fill with hot water and put a few bottles of Dishwasher Magic in the tub (to clean and sanitise, after all you never know where second had washers have been! *LOL*), and while the machine was going about it's business, got busy myself with some housework, then I spied it! A leak, well more to the point water on the floor under the washer. Quickly slid a "wee-wee" pad one had on hand just in case, under the offending area, then reached under and felt around the bottom of the washer. The right hand side feels a bit moist, but it is not like water is pouring out of the machine.
When checked the pad after about 10mins (machine is off, however tub still full of water doing a "soak"), while there is a bit of dampness, again not like the machine has a full frontal leak, perhaps more like a drip?
Also am running the washer empty with full water level, could this "leak" just be water splashed about up and over the tub rims and worked it's way down the side of the cabinet?
Or, should one get the seller on the phone and have him by his short and curlies?
TIA
L.
Drain hose arrived today and therefore was able to complete the putting on new hoses and running the washer through all it's paces, full stop.
Timer works well, that is cycles do what the are supposed to do, and machine fills and drains without a problem
Let the machine fill with hot water and put a few bottles of Dishwasher Magic in the tub (to clean and sanitise, after all you never know where second had washers have been! *LOL*), and while the machine was going about it's business, got busy myself with some housework, then I spied it! A leak, well more to the point water on the floor under the washer. Quickly slid a "wee-wee" pad one had on hand just in case, under the offending area, then reached under and felt around the bottom of the washer. The right hand side feels a bit moist, but it is not like water is pouring out of the machine.
When checked the pad after about 10mins (machine is off, however tub still full of water doing a "soak"), while there is a bit of dampness, again not like the machine has a full frontal leak, perhaps more like a drip?
Also am running the washer empty with full water level, could this "leak" just be water splashed about up and over the tub rims and worked it's way down the side of the cabinet?
Or, should one get the seller on the phone and have him by his short and curlies?
TIA
L.
*Update*
Figured after doing all that work with installing the hoses and cleaing/sanitising, since the washer was out might as well do some wash.
Why didn't anyone tell me? One just wasn't ready!
Am gobsmacked how this little guy washes and rinses! Had forgotten all about the joys of Whirlpool toploaders with "Surgilators". Our dear MaMa had a Whirlpool when on was a wee thing, black agitator and all, but that was long ago.
Anyway, really have to get a video camera and a YouTube account to upload some vids. This little guy just goes to TOWN.
A mixed load of about five or six items: thick and thirsty heavy terry towels, washcloths, and handtowels were no match for this agitator. Turnover was excellent and robust, spin between wash and rinse smooth as a baby's bottom (no out of balance banging), and even with just one rinse the water was clear. Did do a second rinse, but now know that is not always required.
As for the leaking: so far nothing more. Felt under the unit whislt is was washing the towels and the "wee-wee" pad was dry as was underneath the unit. So perhaps it was water being splashed about by using a full tub of water without laundry, going down the inside of the cabinet. My Hoover TT will do the same if water splashes down where the hoses come out of the cabinet.
L.
Figured after doing all that work with installing the hoses and cleaing/sanitising, since the washer was out might as well do some wash.
Why didn't anyone tell me? One just wasn't ready!
Am gobsmacked how this little guy washes and rinses! Had forgotten all about the joys of Whirlpool toploaders with "Surgilators". Our dear MaMa had a Whirlpool when on was a wee thing, black agitator and all, but that was long ago.
Anyway, really have to get a video camera and a YouTube account to upload some vids. This little guy just goes to TOWN.
A mixed load of about five or six items: thick and thirsty heavy terry towels, washcloths, and handtowels were no match for this agitator. Turnover was excellent and robust, spin between wash and rinse smooth as a baby's bottom (no out of balance banging), and even with just one rinse the water was clear. Did do a second rinse, but now know that is not always required.
As for the leaking: so far nothing more. Felt under the unit whislt is was washing the towels and the "wee-wee" pad was dry as was underneath the unit. So perhaps it was water being splashed about by using a full tub of water without laundry, going down the inside of the cabinet. My Hoover TT will do the same if water splashes down where the hoses come out of the cabinet.
L.
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First, you'll need to determine how the water got there. So, I would drain the machine and let it fill again, making sure the hookups are tight and after the area is thoroughly dried. Then, I would let it fill without agitation and see what the results are. If there is any water present after that, you might have to take the cabinet off. Also, check the suds level. Sometimes, there could be some overflow that could cause this, as there is usually a plastic baggie hooked on the tub ring that guides the excess suds to the side of the mechanism. If you manage to run a regular load through and don't find a problem, then chances are it could be from sloshing or slashing.
Upload some photos of what it's doing, if you can.
NorfolkSouthern
Upload some photos of what it's doing, if you can.
NorfolkSouthern
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I guess I was a little late. But thankfully, evidence points to sloshing and maybe some of it could be from hooking it up. I look forward to seeing your video, Launderess.
NorfolkSouthern
NorfolkSouthern
Hey Norfolk Southern!
Thanks for the advice and suggestions!
Just took the first load out of the washer and moved it to see if there was water undeneath, and there was a small puddle, and water did drip along the floor as I moved the machine back into position. However do not know if this water came from eariler cleaning cycles, or during the wash that just completed. One thing, this water was clear (my floors are polished so water tends to bead up), not cloudy or "suds".
Am using professional Tide detergent (stuff sold for use in hotels and such for doing linens and bedding), and being a "HE" detergent there aren't any suds. This water was also cold, and one used "Hot" for the washes, though did use cold for the rinses. Am dosing about 1/4 cup of detergent, 1/2 tablespoon of STPP and 1/4 cup of liquid oxygen bleach.
Just went over to the unit and moved it whilst it was washing another load (no easy feat) and floor under the unit seems dry, at least no new signs of water.
Will keep an eye on things and see how it goes. Several things come to mind. Either my first guess about water splashing about and down the insides of the cabinet during the cleaning cycle made it's way to the floor. Or, water from the spray rinses is really flying and also working it's way down (not likely). Could also be a leak from the pump, but that would always be in the same area and usually reflects whatever water is passing through the pump.
Have three NIB FSP/Whirlpool pumps on the way, which according to the model numbers at least two are three port and will work with this machine. So if the worse comes to the worse, am prepared on that front.
Will keep the group posted as things develop. Have at least three if not four more loads of bath linens to get done, so there will be plenty of chances to see where things are going.
Have to see if my digital camera is charged enough for a few snaps.
L.
Thanks for the advice and suggestions!
Just took the first load out of the washer and moved it to see if there was water undeneath, and there was a small puddle, and water did drip along the floor as I moved the machine back into position. However do not know if this water came from eariler cleaning cycles, or during the wash that just completed. One thing, this water was clear (my floors are polished so water tends to bead up), not cloudy or "suds".
Am using professional Tide detergent (stuff sold for use in hotels and such for doing linens and bedding), and being a "HE" detergent there aren't any suds. This water was also cold, and one used "Hot" for the washes, though did use cold for the rinses. Am dosing about 1/4 cup of detergent, 1/2 tablespoon of STPP and 1/4 cup of liquid oxygen bleach.
Just went over to the unit and moved it whilst it was washing another load (no easy feat) and floor under the unit seems dry, at least no new signs of water.
Will keep an eye on things and see how it goes. Several things come to mind. Either my first guess about water splashing about and down the insides of the cabinet during the cleaning cycle made it's way to the floor. Or, water from the spray rinses is really flying and also working it's way down (not likely). Could also be a leak from the pump, but that would always be in the same area and usually reflects whatever water is passing through the pump.
Have three NIB FSP/Whirlpool pumps on the way, which according to the model numbers at least two are three port and will work with this machine. So if the worse comes to the worse, am prepared on that front.
Will keep the group posted as things develop. Have at least three if not four more loads of bath linens to get done, so there will be plenty of chances to see where things are going.
Have to see if my digital camera is charged enough for a few snaps.
L.
Oh, About The Hoses
Nary a drop of water from either the fill or drain hose, nor the capped off hot water inlet.
Cold water hose and hot water cap were put on just as one was taught: a dab of "plumber's grease" on each end, hand twisted on, then tightened with a wrench GENTLY until there was just a wee bit of resistance. Drain hose got the same plumber's grease treatment but used the hose clamps with bunny ears (have a ton laying about from my Hoover parts stash), and it's on snug as bug.
L.
Nary a drop of water from either the fill or drain hose, nor the capped off hot water inlet.
Cold water hose and hot water cap were put on just as one was taught: a dab of "plumber's grease" on each end, hand twisted on, then tightened with a wrench GENTLY until there was just a wee bit of resistance. Drain hose got the same plumber's grease treatment but used the hose clamps with bunny ears (have a ton laying about from my Hoover parts stash), and it's on snug as bug.
L.
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Sweet Success!
The best clues are: No new water........Found water was clear.
I'll bet you a Surgilator that all your machine hygiene ministrations, colonics, disinfectants, and especially the multiple, clothes-free, full cycle, full water level flushes caused the teeny weeny puddle on your immaculate, high-gloss floors, oh you Hyacinth Boquet Number Two.
LOL, tickled pink, and very relieved.
The best clues are: No new water........Found water was clear.
I'll bet you a Surgilator that all your machine hygiene ministrations, colonics, disinfectants, and especially the multiple, clothes-free, full cycle, full water level flushes caused the teeny weeny puddle on your immaculate, high-gloss floors, oh you Hyacinth Boquet Number Two.
LOL, tickled pink, and very relieved.
The Truth Is Rarely Simple & Never Pure
Ok, after about five loads of wash, everything was done and started to put the washer away.
After disconnecting the hoses, drained each into a small tub so as not to leak water when they are wrapped around the holder on back of the unit. The water intake hose was fine, but look what came out of the drain hose as it was emptied:
Ok, after about five loads of wash, everything was done and started to put the washer away.
After disconnecting the hoses, drained each into a small tub so as not to leak water when they are wrapped around the holder on back of the unit. The water intake hose was fine, but look what came out of the drain hose as it was emptied:
And More
It never rains, but it pours:
It never rains, but it pours:
Ok, from an old washer, one expected a few problems, and from reading NorfolkSouthern's adventures with his unit was some what prepared (did manage to nab several NIB pumps), and now will have to call the man in to see what there is to be done.
When moving the washer,there was a small puddle of water, nothing near as bad as the first time, and not from the first area (right hand side of the machine). Water did make drops on the floor as unit was moved into storage, but those could have come from the water hoses as they dripped.
Now, what could be the source of all this grit,rust flakes and general flith?
One: the previous owners weren't the cleanest of persons and the accumulated gunk and sand from their laundry was flushed out by my "sanitising/weak acid" wash.
Two: The pump is going, but unless it is made from all metal, there shouldn't be that much rust and bits coming from inside.
Three: As NorfolkSouthern suggested up thread, there is rust inside the tubs and perhaps weak areas that are flaking off.
Seems to be the best theory is a blend of two and three. Judging from the parts diagrams, the pump is on the left side of the unit, just away from the agitator. The rust and "gunk" are bits coming from the inner tub.
Thoughts?
L.
When moving the washer,there was a small puddle of water, nothing near as bad as the first time, and not from the first area (right hand side of the machine). Water did make drops on the floor as unit was moved into storage, but those could have come from the water hoses as they dripped.
Now, what could be the source of all this grit,rust flakes and general flith?
One: the previous owners weren't the cleanest of persons and the accumulated gunk and sand from their laundry was flushed out by my "sanitising/weak acid" wash.
Two: The pump is going, but unless it is made from all metal, there shouldn't be that much rust and bits coming from inside.
Three: As NorfolkSouthern suggested up thread, there is rust inside the tubs and perhaps weak areas that are flaking off.
Seems to be the best theory is a blend of two and three. Judging from the parts diagrams, the pump is on the left side of the unit, just away from the agitator. The rust and "gunk" are bits coming from the inner tub.
Thoughts?
L.
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Some of that rust could also be coming from the pump valve, Laundress. Also, when I run mine, I do get a little flaking from time to time from the black Rustoleum I sprayed inside the outer tub. But that doesn't compromise its cleaning abilities, and nothing I know of turned up on my cloths. Besides, why would I want to eat my socks anyway? I guess it's all good. I may go back in and do some more sealing one of these days, and that should hold it real good.
The best way to tell if a pump valve is bad, is if it starts draining some during agitation. That's when the seal gets compromised by the deteriorating plate, and then it's time to replace the pump. When you do get ready to do that procedure, be sure to post an update. There is a trick to getting the pulley off, using a coat hanger and I would rather you do it right the first time.
Meanwhile, I guess I need to find some more spare pumps.
NorfolkSouthern
The best way to tell if a pump valve is bad, is if it starts draining some during agitation. That's when the seal gets compromised by the deteriorating plate, and then it's time to replace the pump. When you do get ready to do that procedure, be sure to post an update. There is a trick to getting the pulley off, using a coat hanger and I would rather you do it right the first time.
Meanwhile, I guess I need to find some more spare pumps.
NorfolkSouthern
