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Hey .not a spesialist in this but i have som wringers. In my gear box ther is a big wheel with 2 taps on it this is conected to a lift/arm that lifts the (transmisjon wheel,toothweel) cant remember the name in english now.to engage the cam wheel and the Axel going to agitator. When turnd on it cobects it all .

I have had this problem if the gear box has been out in a winter time .
I solv it by turning the machine on its head turn on motor and then engage the agitator some times i use a rubber hammer and beeat it then the clutch should fall in place .leaving it to run fore 5-10 min to heat up the Oil.
 
Was this an eBay Purchase?

Chris,
If you got this from an ebay seller, just about everything comes with a satisfaction guarantee thru ebay for whatever it is worth.
You can also put in a complaint about the seller. And the negative feedback stays on the account so it makes them look bad.

If I sell anything, I always tell them the real condition and photograph the damage or wear on the item.

Anyway, keep us posted and let me know if you need any help.
 
I would report the seller to ebay, I'm pretty sure that they would frown upon her luring you in using ebay's website, then arranging to make the sale off of ebay, thereby screwing ebay out of their cut, while she used their site free. This will get her ass in a sling. In fact, look on ebay for their rules. If this kind of seller activity is verboten, look at what her number of sales are and what her feedback rating is. If she is a high volume seller with a high feedback rating I would try contacting her and explain what you ended up with and what ebay's rules are. Then tell her that if she refunds your money you won't report her, if not report her to ebay. You likely won't get your $ back unless she chooses to do the right thing, but you'll have the satisfaction that she may be stopped from future fraudulant activity, And NEVER do business with an ebay seller again that asks you to complete the sale outside of ebay!
Eddie
 
Am so sorry to hear this.....

Know what it is like to have something arrive and *not* work as stated.

A few things:

Since eBay (was forced) spun off PayPal things are pretty much back to where they were when eBay first began payment wise. Sellers are free to choose PayPal, eBay's CC system or back to checks and or money orders. Personally I still use PayPal for all the built in protections, and recommend everyone else do as well. Not to sure about eBay's CC system security but so far PP has been rock solid, so why mess with a winning formula?

Laundryboy... By all means contact the seller and explain the situation. If it does turn out that the machine is DOA he or she may do the proper thing refund wise.

Am not doubting the SQ repairman's word, but I too wonder how a transmission/gear box on a virturaly new machine can need replacement. If SQ wringers are out there from the 1930's, 1940's, and so froth still operational after heavy use how can a relatively late model unit that has seen little or no use need a new tranny? Unless someone messed with the unit and did something they shouldn't.

Have been considering getting a wringer, but while have seen many interesting units out there from a spares wise point of view Maytag seems the only logical choice.

Landryboy try contacting Modern Parts out in Parma, OH and see what there is: http://modernpartshouse.com/appliance-parts/2811346
 
I contacted the seller and she said I stole the wringer from
Her at a steal for $300. She said not to contact her again or harass her unless i return the machine to her. She said she reported me to eBay prior to the sale for not being a high eBay buyer. She thought I was a fraud for wanting the machine. She said in her ad it was in excellent condition and working when they picked it up. Which isn't the truth now. I am going to file a complaint against her via eBay. Even though she said to cxl the eBay transaction and pay her off the site.
The washer wringers turn greet. So I might have to find a weekend to take off the bottom and see if I can work on it. I've never worked on one before. Bummed out.
 
Christopher-I knew I smelled a rat here! I'm glad you reported her. I hope you kept any email that you may have from her regarding this "steal". Any documentation that you have will help. I didn't mean to be a downer in my previous post. I too know how disappointing it can be to have something not work when you receive it. I also know that being taken advantage of doesn't feel too hot either. Anyway, I sure hope that you can at least get the wringer washer to work. That would be the best outcome.
Good luck.
Eddie
 
Warning, Will Robinson

Never take an eBay transaction off line as it were.

Always where possible unless going to physically collect an appliance yourself (and thus can check condition and operability) pay with anything else than PayPal or credit card.

I saw both the eBay and CL listing from that seller for those wringer washers (IIRC she had two) and didn't think it passed the smell test. They obviously weren't "new" as in in box and thus you cannot be sure. Most sellers slap "new" onto anything that looks remotely like it regardless.

When you have the time get out your copy of the service manual, some tools and take a look "under the bonnet" as it were. Study the diagrams to see how things should work and then see if you can figure out what isn't happening.

You might also want to contact Lehman's: https://www.lehmans.com/p-3046-home-queen-wringer-washers.aspx?show=all

They were selling the Saudi Arabia version of SQ wringers (production has now ceased), but apparently they are a source of spares and repair information. When you consider how much the Amish love wringer washers, am willing to bet they may be able to offer some advice.
 
So I might have to find a weekend to take off the bottom...

Could be wrong and certainly am not an expert but IIRC with SQ wringers you take the tub up and out (after removing the wringer head) to service.

With the tub out of way it will be easy to see what is or is not happening as in relation to the agitator.

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?56653

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?31929

 
I'm afraid that since your transaction for this washer was outside of Ebay, they may come back and say "Sorry kid, you are on your own with this one. Our protection is only for items purchased through Ebay.".

Don't give up, persistence is the only way to get any action in your case. You could always file a small claims court action against the seller and if she doesn't show up get a default judgement against the seller. File the action in your jurisdiction as this is where the problem originated. Make it the responsibility of the seller to make it to court in your area.

Start off by sending the seller a formal demand letter that they refund your money and arrange to have the washer picked up. Send it registered/certified and give them 30 days. That should start your off on the right foot.
 
I think the seller is bluffing you when she said she's reported you to ebay. She is the one who has gone outside of ebay rules by inducing you to cancel the ebay sale, refunding your paypal pymt. (if that's how you originally paid) and then completing a private sale with you outside of ebay. This way she makes more as she doesn't pay ebay any commission on the sale. I don't think she would want ebay to know this. I believe that ebay might ban her from future sales for this. I totally agree with Allen in reply #28, but I would still report her to ebay, if for no other reason than to prevent her from taking advantage of anyone else. From the sound of her attitude she is likely an old hand at this kind of subterfuge.
Eddie
 
Don't let the seller try to scare you off. You become the aggressor in this case. Let him/her know that you are not going away until this is resolved. Make them think that you will follow them to the ends of the earth to get this resolved and your money refunded.

Eddie is right. These people will not report you to Ebay because THEY were the ones that violated the Ebay rules in the first place.

I have always said that there are certain types of people who will lay awake at night just thinking up ways to scam the Ebay system. This seller seems to be one of those.
 
Sadly do not believe eBay can or will do much.

If OP had stuck with sending money via PayPal things might be different; as he could either get them involved and or file a dispute with his CC for a charge-back.

However several points arise.

First seller listed the unit as being sold "As Is", though did claimed it "worked". As is translates into you better be darn sure whatever you are getting is what you want and does what it is supposed to; otherwise you are SOL.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Spe...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

My guess is the seller didn't want to pay PayPal's fees and or had problems with them thus wanted all her money and found it easier to get it via check.

During the run up and afterwards to eBay and PayPal splitting lots of strange things were happening. For instance having sold various things on and off eBay and never having a problem accepting PalPal. Then all of a sudden PP was placing holds on funds sent to pay for winning bids *and* requiring me to give them all sorts of personal and banking information. They claimed it was needed to verify myself/account and wouldn't release funds until had done so. They were also placing further holds for "X" amount of days post sale to allow for transit and receipt of goods sold. Along with presumably time for buyer to file a complaint if anything was wrong. You found many complaints about this on both eBay's internal forums and elsewhere.

Again with $300 or so clams on the table seller may have had reasons for circumventing PP and going for cash/check. Why else would she refund money and ask for him to send payment via mail? PP is vastly more secure than a check which can be stopped or whatever.

Seller seems to have a decent enough feedback record (over 600 positive with nearly nil recent negative), so will give benefit of the doubt she wasn't truly out to screw someone over.

Buying anything online sight unseen is a crap shoot. Vintage appliances more so because, well you know...

Fact of the matter is few sellers truly know what they've got. This can work out to our benefit as I myself have acquired some great deals (the AEG set for a start) from people who were clueless. The downside of course is if they don't know how something is supposed to operate they cannot vouch for it being completely functional.

Chris, I feel your pain and have been there and done that. From a mangle that arrived from Germany in bits (major shipping damage), to a Whirlpool portable with a major leak, to the Mobile Maid dw with several issues; have had my share of appliance gyp. Am getting ready to strip down a Frigidaire ironer that one paid good money to ship and barely used but is now suffering from stripped gears.

By all means hound this seller to do right by you; but OTOH look at the glass as half full. You do have what appears to be a good looking wringer washer. Am in the camp that does not believe it needs a new gear box/trannie. If SQ washers out there decades older than yours *and* were used heavily are still running, that machine unless someone did something to it should be fine.
 
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Update #2

I have removed the wringer, trying to remove the tub to see whats going on underneath, THe drain was (is) full of sand, I removed all the bolts holding the Agitator shaft in, but cannot get it to come out, It is a work in Progress, the seller told me never to contact her again, that the machine was in excellent working condition when it was picked up, I beg to differ.. But anyways, I will work hard to get it working, A huge thank you to everyone here for lending me support and kind words. I will post pics of the maiden wash, and if anyone is around Orlando (Winter Park) feel free to stop by, a second set of eyes is always better...
Chris
 
Am no expert

But sounds to me like something is wrong with the clutch.

"To control the clutch it is desirable that some means be provided to be readily accessible to the operator and with this in mind a clutch shift lever 42 is pivoted at 43 in suitable bearings 44 on the cross bar or member 11 so that the forked end 45 thereof embraces the clutch sleeve 41, bearing lugs 46 being provided to fit within the groove 47 of the clutch sleeve. This clutch shifting lever 42 can be moved to the two extreme positions illustrated by the full and dotted lines illustrated in Fig. 2 and will throw the clutch in or will throw the clutch out, as'desired.

To permit manual operation and setting of the clutch I provide a clutch shifting rod 4'] slidably mounted in one of the legs 2 and a clutch shifting handle 48 on this rod 47 is disposed to be readily accessible from the outside of the encasing structure 49 which is ordinarily used to enclose the tub or container 1. A fork 50 on clutch shifting lever 42 is received around clutch shifting rod 47 and springs 51 and 52 are provided on opposite sides to stabilize the clutch shifting lever as rod 4'7 is adjusted. To hold adjustments of the clutch shifting rod 4'1,- an arrangement as illustrated in Fig. 10 may be used, and as here shown the handle 48 extends through aslot 53 I and the rod may be engaged in notches 54 and 55 at its two extremes of movement. Any other approved structure might be employed to operate the clutch shifting lever and retain adjustments of the same.

In the use of my improved mechanism the motor 10 will constantly drive shaft 29 and consequently drive gear 2'7 will be continuously rotated, a direct connection being accomplished vto wringer shaft 36 through gear 35. As the drive gear 27 is rotated, pitman rod 38 will be constantly actuated through its eccentric mounting between the two extremes of movement as illustrated in Figs. 5 and 6, and arcuated rocking lever 18 will be correspondingly rocked. This will cause the two links to be alternately wound and unwound around the stub shaft 13 as a center, in consequence of which the bifurcated arm 22 will be swung to oscillate driven member 14 through greater than 180 degrees of movement, the actual movement thus attainable with efficiency being substantially an oscillatory movement of 220 degrees or better. As the links 18 and 24 alternately wind and unwind around the stub shaft 13 there will be no interference of any part with another part and in consequence a smooth, even, oscillatory movement will be imparted to member 14 continuously-during operation of the rotating gear or member 27. Through manipulation of the clutch sleeve 41, the agitator shaft 4 can be readily connected and disconnected at the will of the operator.

With thisconstruction and arrangement of the parts, the mechanism is extremely simple and inexpensive to manufacture and assemble, there being no special crank shafts, racks, or gears associated with the agitator shaft, and as all of the parts can be cast and finished according to ordinary manufacturing processes, a much simpler and cheaper structure is obtained than where racks, gears, segments and the like are required. Further, as cylindrical bearings and corresponding openings can be finished and fitted with extreme accuracy, 9. very smooth running and quiet operation mechanism is provided. "
http://www.google.com/patents/US1964440

With the control knob set to "On" see if you can nudge the gear into place.

SQ had a lifetime warranty on their wringer washer transmissions and about the same on the clutch system. Both were tested under stress and designed to last lifetime of the machine. Thus it would seem odd a fairly low use machine like yours would have stripped gears or whatever. Am still guessing something was knocked lose or is gummed up.
 
Launderess,

I think something is going haywire with the switch and clutch operation,
When the tub is out the clutch operates fully extended nad the switch doesnt turn all the way around, but when I re installed the tub it doesnt lift all the way up to engage it, and the switch just spins around. Its almost like the clutch isnt letting it engage to operate when the tub is installed. I will tackle it more tomorrow afternoon.. Thank you a million times over again for all your help, I owe you big time,,,
Chris
 

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