warmsecondrinse
Well-known member
Danes and Ye
Agreed, terryT. The Danish Modern of that time was much nicer. My grandparents had a dining room set with matching side table and desk. I never did think much of that kind of Early American.
Thanks, Tom. I was wondering if I were the only grammar bitch here. If I remember correctly, 'Old-fashioned' English became popular briefly in the 1800's and a capital thorn in cursive looked like a 'y', especially if written sloppily. People just assumed it was a 'y' and went with it.
To complicate matters, there really was/is a word "ye", pronounced "YEE". It is the second person plural pronoun. 'ye' is the subject, like 'I'. 'you' is for direct and indirect object. If I were talking to my 3 kids, I'd say,"I'm giving YOU these books so YE can use them in school." Today, of course, we just use 'you' for everything.
Thou/thee is actually used like 'tu' in the romance languages and 'du' in German.
"Thou" is subject only, like "I". "Thee" is object only, like "me". It's easy to remember. Just think of "I" vs. "me" Match it up like I have it below and you will ALWAYS be right.
I -- thou
me -- thee
my -- thy
mine -- thine
And yes, today when people use it on tv or in books, it's wrong most of the time. Sorry, it's a pet peeve I have. Hearing 'thou' and 'thee' used wrong is like nails on a chalkboard.
The character Compo, in the Britcom <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Last of the Summer Wine</span>, used it correctly.
Ok, grammar lesson is over.
Agreed, terryT. The Danish Modern of that time was much nicer. My grandparents had a dining room set with matching side table and desk. I never did think much of that kind of Early American.
Thanks, Tom. I was wondering if I were the only grammar bitch here. If I remember correctly, 'Old-fashioned' English became popular briefly in the 1800's and a capital thorn in cursive looked like a 'y', especially if written sloppily. People just assumed it was a 'y' and went with it.
To complicate matters, there really was/is a word "ye", pronounced "YEE". It is the second person plural pronoun. 'ye' is the subject, like 'I'. 'you' is for direct and indirect object. If I were talking to my 3 kids, I'd say,"I'm giving YOU these books so YE can use them in school." Today, of course, we just use 'you' for everything.
Thou/thee is actually used like 'tu' in the romance languages and 'du' in German.
"Thou" is subject only, like "I". "Thee" is object only, like "me". It's easy to remember. Just think of "I" vs. "me" Match it up like I have it below and you will ALWAYS be right.
I -- thou
me -- thee
my -- thy
mine -- thine
And yes, today when people use it on tv or in books, it's wrong most of the time. Sorry, it's a pet peeve I have. Hearing 'thou' and 'thee' used wrong is like nails on a chalkboard.
The character Compo, in the Britcom <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Last of the Summer Wine</span>, used it correctly.
Ok, grammar lesson is over.
