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Tolivac....

As memory serves me this was completely air powered. I don't remember any wires going to it, in fact, I am sure there was none. That is what makes this thing kind of amazing...it made so much noise for something just powered from the vacuum.

I am not kidding when I say that within a few moments, you really wanted to turn it off!
 
On Powerheads....

I guess that in this instance there is no real winner as to who was the first with the powernozzle they all came out within a shade of each other Lewyt/ Sears Kenmore-Whirlpool/Electrolux. I agree with you totally Tolivac that Air Way had the first twin motor upright cleaner as there is total evidence to this. I have seen AirWay's brush mandrel and agree again totally that it was far different from Hoover's, but they infringed just enough on Hoovers patents where after a lengthy and costly battle, A High court in Ohio sided with Hoover nad also sided with Air-Way. There is a small story that I have been told with similar points, and theirin lies s a small story attached to this post..

The story is this....The final confrontation with Hoover v.s Air-Way as I have been told from various vacuum collector sources tell it this way... It came with the intorduction of the Air-Way DirtMaster Model cleaner introduced in 1937. This was the first single motor and ONLY single motor Air-Way upright that was ever manufactured. It's design was startingly similar to the then late model Hoover 150 from 1936. It had a revolving brush with two plastic beaters that were metal tipped with several brushes going straight across the mandrel, but were spaced in different loactions around it. It of course used Air-ways superior Cellulose paper bag as well encased in a simple to use leatherette casing that made bag changing almost painless. It had a Headlight the first and only Air-Way to have this feature, a six position height adjustment and so on.

It also featured a similar side inlet fot the suction attachments like the 150, which employed a mechanical changer device to direct the full suction from the twin fans from the agitator cavity to the suction inlet, which even Hoover couldnt claim. Their side inlet machine leaked air and had fairly poor airflow to their attachments. The handle was far different from previous model uprights being very Hooveresque' in the respect that the handle was not hollow, but very similar to the Hoover having a rear mounted switch and the cord coming out in a similar place.

Another unique design of this machine was the fac that it employed twin fans that were mounted high and to the rear using twin rubber belts to drive them, and then a single belt ran down from the motor on the left right hand side facing the machine, to the brush from the horizontal motor. I really cannot perfectly describe how this setup looks, and my Dirtmaster owners manual dating 1939 doesnt show the entire mechanism.

Anyway the machine was VERY good in fact too good for Hoover's taste , as in the past Hoover merely "winked" at potential violations of their principals where AirWay was concerned. And of course, they as well as most manufacturer's bought competitior products and tested and tore them apart and found that DirtMaster model Air-Way was close, too close as ever to beating them in their game....

In fact becasue of Air-Way's exclusive "cellulose" paper bag feature it was substantially better than the Hoover 150 in terms of filtration and ease of use in that area. For a quick minute starting with the latter Hoover 1940 model 60 which was the prewar Hoover model 61 (postwar), this Hoover came with the first version of the HandiSac. Hoover did this as a "nudge" to Air-Way in response to Air-Way using their beater bar principal that they obvioulsy invented with the Hoover model 700 in 1927. Air-Way in turn "Winked back" to Hoover by cranking up production of their DirtMaster, and subsequent Dual Motor Scout models until the unfortunate court proceedings came about..

Hoover then being #1 in the industry, was a much more stonger influential company in that time and had resources and lawyers who fought Air-Way tooth and nail,after deciding that they were done with Air-Way's flagrant misuse of their inventions decided to take it to court. There the company proved that ANY machine that used a beater bar was OBVIOUSLY infringing on their patents, and that Air-Way's proved that their patents were also being infringed on as well...where the court basically said...Air Way no more beater bars, and Hoover No more paper bags.

What really was the case was that the smaller Air-Way firm decided to drop all their uprights completly in 1941- and concentrate on their newly designed "vertical cansiter"....the Sanitizor with the model 55. They figured that the canister market was only intact because of Electrolux, and that no one else was really in that market at the time. By 1955 they were having second thoughts becasue that market was also crowded, and Air-Way's patent on the paper bag ran out in 1952 so everyone had it by that time. However, the verdict was in and Air-Way soldiered on reguardless.

And of course it was 25 years before Air-Way had a motorized brushroll again with the 88 Mark II, appropriatly nameplating the nozzle, whilst not built by themselves "RugMaster" in lieu to a market that they abaondoned long ago...the upright market. And they have never to my knowledge reappeared in this market and Steve Tomberlin in a long conversation he had with me several years back when I had called him personally told me he wans't interested in cracking that market again...and in his slow southern drawl, said why would I tinker with somthing that has worked well and continues to do so for the last 62 years ( him refereing to the Sanitizor). He also pretty much agreed with the story that I have had told to me and he said that while a few things were tweaked for "lore" it was pretty much as happened and told.

As far as the Vibra-Beat from what I can tell it appeared about 1957...I have had a Prince II Eureka built canister a few years back about 1997 which at that time I had dated to approximatly 1966 as to build year according to Eureka. It came with the Vibra Beat,plus a regular nozzle as well as all the other attachments in a caddy... and found that while viscious sounding...like a small jackhammer it diddn't do a bad job, just an unpleasnat one like Kevin noted. And that because of it's violent shaking, Eurekas then twist tight wands would uncerimoniously come apart while using it, which happened to ME numerous times while sing it. And that there was IMHO the main reason that it was dicontinued as soon as they brought forth their own electric nozzle in 1972. The other obviously noted problem was that after vacuuming with that machine about five times the beater really diddn't function as well becasue...well the suction was dropped enough to make a noticeable difference.

Anyway that's my dollars worht for now...

Chad
 
Some additional notes

Chad,
You really nailed the story of Air-Way -vs- Hoover very well and few know about the terrible lawsuits that nearly shut down both companies. There was one other 2 motor upright that Air-Way built and it was, "The Chief", just before the Dirtmaster. The 3 upright 2 motors were: The Scout, The Chief and The Dirtmaster. Air-Way did built upright one motor vaccums for many years prior to the Scout but they were all straight suction machines.

The Dirtmaster, according to several sources, was never a terrific vacuum and had problems. Production was a small number and few are to be found surviving today. The previous 2 motor uprights were far better vacuums and the hose in the handle end worked much better.

As an Air-Way distributor, I have spoken with Steve also and he just doesn't understand those of us that like vintage machines. Also, Don Clark has been a wealth of information. He was the one that brought the power nozzle to the 88 Mark II. The first one used was a Hamilton Beech upright converted to fit the 88. He did this without Air-Way's corporate knowledge and temporarily lost his job as the National Sales Distributor. Eventually, Air-Way used an upright Eureka modified as a power nozzle. Both the HB and Eureka "power nozzles" were not well suited the way Air-Way was using them. Since they were both complete upright machines less the bag and a hollow tube made to fit on the bag flange to go into hose end, they blew/forced the dirt to go into the vacuum faster than the machine could handle the air flow using the 7 amp twin fan motor. If you changed the bag each time you used the vacuum, it would work. However, the whole set up is terribly bulky. The Eureka power heads were used on the Mark V as well, in the gold color, the 88 Mark II in turquoise. (There is a picture of one in my collection on this site)

Eventually, Air-Way did manufacture their own power nozzle as you mentioned, the Rugmaster. Later it was private labeled for Air-Way by Royal and finally Douglas until Hayden was selected for the current models.

Air-Way at one time was one of the "Kings" of door to door sales. Since they never elected to change the basic machine and do no marketing, they have been left behind. I still firmly believe the current Air-Way, for the money, is the finest vacuum one can purchase with the best filtration. I hope they remain a viable concern for years to come. The wood pulp cellulose bag is only challenged on filtration by Filter Queen which uses the same material for their filter cone. I would hate to see Air-Way follow in the footsteps of Packard, Pan American World Airways, Woolworths, etc., because of lack of change but only time will tell.

Long live, "Sanitation to the nation", as pioneered by Air-Way and thanks for you well written and informative posting.
 
Very informative on the Hoover-versus Air-Way.Infringed on two things-Hoover after Air-Way for the beater bar roller brush-and air Way versus Hoover on the paper bag. air-Ways bag is Light years ahead of anyone eleses except the Filtrete bags-They make the bags themselves and even the long cellulose fiber paper needed to make them.They also told me the Air-Way canister bags made today will fit any of their canister machines-from the "fireplug" models to present.The power nozzles on the present machines come from Panasonic.Panasonic provided power nozzles for Royal,and Kenmore.Its a good effetive nozzle.
I am not clear on the air-Way twin fan system-is it sort of like the Riccar Radiance upright?-the first motor and fan pushes the air into the bag-also drive the roller brush-and the second motor and fan pulls from the outside of the bag.It is used by itself when you use the vac hose.
 
Power Nozzles manufacturing

Not to be critical but informative, the Cen-Tec/Hayden company manufactures the power nozzles for Royal, Kenmore and Air-Way as well as others. They have over "100 years experience in floor-care and related industries." The parent company is called Cen-Tec and their website can be visited at:
www.centecsystems.com

Charlie
 
Twin Fans Motors

Twin fan motors in canisters refers to the number of fans in the motor creating air flow hence suction. Typically, lesser priced canister vacuums use one fan and the higher end two fans. There were some three fans in days gone by but I'm not sure if any are in production today. Many changes have been made in technology so some high end vacuums such as the current Rainbow, uses a single fan and has very effective air flow/suction. Their earlier models did have three fans and were great vacuums that are still going strong today.
 
Vac motors-Yes ,I know about the twin fan motors in most canister vacs and clean air uprights-with these the motor is "axial"-like a miniature jet engine-the fans generate the suction airflow and also cool the motor-thats why those will overheat if the bag is full or the hose clogged.Triple fan motors could refer that the motor itself has its own fan for cooling and the other two for cleaning airflow. these are also used in most wert-dry vacs to conform to new safety requirements that a vac for wet pickup the motor must be isolated from the damp airstream.Rainbow vacs are made this way., Same with Watermatic and Fairfax.In most tradional "dirty air" vac fan systems the motor also has its own fan for cooling the motor.The new Switched Reluctance motor in the Rainbow E2 vfacs has the isolated cooling syustem.Even has a filter for the motor to protect the bearings!There are no brushes in the Rainbow SR motor. Dyson is working on one as well-they call it the "Digital motor" its used in the DC12 cansister.
 
Triple fans...

The Hoover suitcase portable, Slimline, and early Swingette models were equipped with triple fan motors.
In twin fan version, the same motor powered the Dial-A-Matic upright
 
Great information guys!

It's great reading all of this interesting information, especially about the "famous" Air-Way! I had heard of a Dirtmaster before, but never knew the story or of any models left in existance. Are there any remaining models or pictures? Seems as impossible to find as a Hoover Model O...

The twin-motor Scout and Chief are really neat machines that IMHO were ahead of their time...I'd die if I found one of those! Same with the machines with the Don Clark/Eureka power nozzle; I've seen 2 on eBay before but that was it. Loved hearing the history of these at the Convention.

That's also interesting about Hoover using their twin-fan canister motor in the DAM. My late-70's DAM does sound more like a canister machine from that era than an upright...

--Austin
 
Hoover

Austin,
Hoover got their miles out of that motor for sure, and many many other parts as well.
For instance, the rear wheels on the Slimline/Portable Canisters were Dial-A-Matic front wheels...
I could go on forever!
 
Now that would be fun

Spending your day going thru all the factory parts bins and slapping together next years model. Most companies do that anyways to one degree or another, Oster takes the cake though when it comes to how many variations of a blender can we possibly come up with.
 
Another example:

The wheels used on the Connstellation 84's rug nozzle.
They were later the Dial-A-Matic's rear wheels, as well as the Floor-A-Matic/Scrub-n-vac-/FloorMax's...
 
Thanks for the needed info....

Hi Air-Way Charlie-

Im SOOOO Super happy that you had more information on the Air-Way. You know I've heard around that the very "first" powerheads on the 88 Mark II's were complete Eureka Upright cleaners sans the bag...but I never really believed that....until now... It just seemed very strange that they would do such a thing.

I never knew about the Hamilton Beach uprights either. Most of my information that I learned was from my long since passed freindship with Tom Gasko. He told me stories about Air-Way ,Rexair, Compact and the like. Some were too wild to be believed...but for the most part were factual and so forth.

In fact, in our discussion that spanned over an hour; Mr. Tomberlin had some good and bad things to say about Tom Gasko who was the person who "claims" that he decided that the current Panasonic/Kenmore/Hayden Powernozzle would work better than the "Always Beauty Clean" Air-Way/Royal nozzle and the later Douglas built powerheads previously used...and by rigging up a hose from a then current Kenmores with of course the quick connect disconnect wands and hose and adapting it to use Air-Way's machine end ferrule he created the new "Centruion" right in his own shop.

According to Tomberlin, Gasko swept down on his little company there in Talladega, like Lochinivar...and started persuading him to change the Sanitizor to be MORE modern than it already was. His protoype in hand he showed the president how his changes made the Sanitizor MORe versatile, and that the new powerhead made the machine better suited to clean "all" types of carpeting.

(As a quick sidebar...I feel to this day that the current powerhead is light years ahead of the old Douglas built head, and the quick disconnect head just shouldn't not be a STANDARD option IMHO)

Anyways, He (Gasko) also proposed that the Centurion model had a two-speed motor, which Tomberlin felt was unnescescary, but Gasko persisted and eventually to Passify Mr. Gasko he relented and allowed the two speed motor option.

(Sidebar#2- There was an argument between the two men as to WHERE to put the two speed switch. Tomberlin felt that the appropriate and less costly revisement would to be to put the switch on the bottom of the tank near the exhaust outlet. Gasko siad that was just ludacris due the fact that people would never see it there...(presuming they never used it horizontally), and then Gasko felt that it should be next to the main switch on the front bottom of the canister.

Well of course again to "Passify" him as Tomberlin noted he relented after his secretary was brought into the mix and she sided with GASKO!!! It's a wonder if that sweet woman who answered all my questions neatly and sweetly had her job after that....and of course in a final stoke of ego which to that conversation with Tomberlin still made him cringe...they christned the new model the Centurion..."TomGasko" edition.

I have no Ill will anymore to Tom...there was alot of unfortunate bickering and infighting and gossip and hurtful "blather'; being spewed about in the old original vacuum cleaner forum that is no longer online. It was becasue of this, that Jeff (hoover1060) decided to go his own way...take a few willing devottees along, and created the FABULOUS Hooverland site for many people who just wanted to talk vacuum cleaner and few ever looked back.

In fact to be fair...Tom sent me without a penny asked a sweet Air-Way Sanitizor 88 Mark II that I lovingly restored after his gift arrived and still have to this day. He also gave me an Air-Way Sanitizor model 77 also. That unfortunatly was a lost cause in my fire in my shop at my old house a few years back.

Anyway GREAT info, and thanks for bolstering my post..It's nice to have many peole who all know the same things help out each other to fillin the blanks...

Chad
 
The old Vac forum and other thoughts............

Chad
Interesting topics and names you brought up in your last post. As the former President of the VCCC, one of my biggest challenges was repairing, "ill will", and "hurt feelings" caused by some of the prominent members who shall remain nameless in this post. I then experienced being put in the firing line and have essentially abondoned the VCCC. What it's status is today is unknown to me.

I knew that Tom had a thing about Air-Way and felt he could revive sales by modifying the Centurion. And, in all fairness, he did do a great job but Air-Way is still so far behind the pack that they are not even a blip on the radar anymore which is tragic on some level. A note about Tom, and not an attack or criticism, he tends to find a pet vacuum and then burn hard and fast and move on. Prior to Air-Way, it was Filter Queen that was going to save the world. Then he dubbed them, "Filthy Queen", after he moved on to Air-Way. Now as you and others may be aware of, he is very much into Dyson after completely dumping Air-Way. He does not carry ONE Air-Way product in his store. Not even bags. This after much hoopla over his Signature Series. Well, I guess as times change so do people's interest.

Steve Tomberlin's secretary siding with Tom is his wife Addie who is a delight. She has been very helpful to me when I am ordering or just have a question. So, yes, she still is there with the other maybe 1/2 dozen employees, most of them part time that assemble and ship vacuums.

One last thought, several of the people that engaged in the bickering, gossip, infighting and blather are still around. That was the primary reason for the lock down on the VCCC site even though as President at the time, I vetoed that idea. I felt it important to let everyone speak even if they make a complete idiot out of themselves and the post has to be removed. It was unfathomable for me to understand the mean spirited agruments over vacuum cleaners! I mean, for crying out loud, these are machines with motors to pick up dirt. The best to come out of the club has been friendships that are near and dear to me. Several people have become my family as I really don't have many blood relatives.

So, in finding this group, (automaticwasher.org), and the number of crossover members has been a blessing. The posters here seem to be far more sophisticated and enjoy good senses of humor while appreciating a bit sarcasm, edgy posts and pics, but keeping it in good taste.

Chad and anyone else that likes Air-Way and vacuums in general, if I can help you find something or answer a question, I'll do the best I can. Plus, there is a wealth of knowledge on this website.

Best Wishes,
Charlie
 
Dirtmaster bag and bags for the Scout and Chief

Wood pulp cellulose filtering at it's best in the late 1920's and all of the 1930's. The Dirtmaster bag has the green writing the other models the red writing. The pic shows one side of each of the bags. Note, the "back" side shows how to install the bag correctly.
 
Now for the other side.......

Note the Dirtmaster bag specifies it is indeed, for the Dirtmaster. It is slightly larger and will only fit the Dirtmaster. Two VCCC members have the Dirtmaster and one of them, about 5 years ago won the Blue Ribbon award for, "Most Historical Significance." If you ever find one grab it!

I have a pristine model 35, The Scout, that I purchased from club member Tania Voigt. The brush strips and beater bars are mint and the vacuum works great. Now, if I could just find the hose and tools.
 
BEAUTIFUL Mark II...love the oversized powerhead! I don't see the familiar foot-operated on/off switch...did Air-Way use their own motor hood for this nozzle?

I had a straight-suction Mark II (no outlet in the side for a P/N) in 2003 and gave it away (which was a stupid move on my part) because I was short on room. It worked great and while powerful, was whisper-quiet...on a par with my 1956 Electrolux Model S. Even though the rug nozzle was missing the collar insert (I couldn't use it) and the hose had some wear, I loved it. This picture was taken in June 2003 when we were getting ready to renovate my room (note the hideous sky-blue walls which are no longer there). All of the furniture was being moved out and there was a considerable amount of dust behind everything.

I believe the single rear wheel was somewhat of a drawback (I'm glad they added a second one). Over time (before I had it) the upper housing became bent in my machine by that wheel, causing it to pull to the left when in "canister" mode.

There was a red/copper machine on eBay last week with a gold Douglas P/N (can't remember the model designation)...I should have bought it.

--Austin
 
88 Mark II

Austin,
There are lots of 88's still around and I'm sure we can find you one if you are interested.

The early 88 Mark II's did not have the p/n outlet and the white top was shiny, smooth metal. The later model, same colors, had the outlet and the white part became molded, texturized plastic over a thin sheet of metal.

The foot switch for all the canisters is at the bottom on the front usually where the badging is.

BTW, I do really like the Eureka power head from a historical standpoint, but to use it..............it helps to have a big house and lots of empty open room!

Charlie
 

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