Hobart WM-1D dishwasher
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stevet
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Got therm!
Yes, I got the pictures of the line strainers. I figured it was a non issue as you said you would be ordering the new style valves with the built-in strainers.
Yes, I got the pictures of the line strainers. I figured it was a non issue as you said you would be ordering the new style valves with the built-in strainers.
But what is that black stuff? And how can I prevent that from happening again? I did end up buying that motor and will order the drain pump tomorrow morning.. Now I was at home depot today and I looked at that Lquid tight conduit and the sizes they have are way.. way too thick for where it's going.. but I don't want to use that flexable metal conduit again.
Also did you say not to use stranded 14 AWG or solid?
Also did you say not to use stranded 14 AWG or solid?
stevet
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Good move, Mike
You should be able to make it work just fine and in metal, you won't have to worry about the hi rinse temp water warping it like a pvc fitting.
The project is moving along.
You should be able to make it work just fine and in metal, you won't have to worry about the hi rinse temp water warping it like a pvc fitting.
The project is moving along.
Yeah at first I picked up the PVC but then thought about the drain temp, I think I should be OK with that PVC nut to the trap, the guy game me one that was 1 1/2" but it was too small to fit the pipe so I ended up getting the PCV one because it was the only one the store had that fits.
Any sugestions on detergent? I had bubble bandit in mind
Any sugestions on detergent? I had bubble bandit in mind
stevet
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So many questions...
Here are some answers..
Get the screws from Ace hardware in Stainless Steel. If they don,t have the exact ones, then you may have to go to Hobart as they do have a shoulder on them. Remember to put anti-sieze on them so you can get them out another day.
You should be able to use a 5/8" heater hose from the auto parts store for the drain line fron the drain valve to the tailpiece. Just make sure you use screw type hose clamps, not the spring type that the machine may have come with.
As I told you in one of our phone conversations, domestic detergents are made to work slowly and they will not power thru the food on the dishes in the 3 minutes it has to do the cycle. There are powdered detergents out there like Commercial Cascade you can buy. They used to sell a powdered detergent in large bags but they can go rock hard if not used quickly or stored properly. You <span style="text-decoration: underline;">CAN</span> install a detergent feeder for a liquid as well as a rinse agent feeder. Ecolab can provide that equipment aand the detergent and rinse agent.
The power feed for the detergent is taken off the first fill solenoid terminal and the rinse agent actually has a terminal on the timer to connect to.
Bubble Bandit won't do in this machine.You can use it upstairs in the domestic unit.
Here are some answers..
Get the screws from Ace hardware in Stainless Steel. If they don,t have the exact ones, then you may have to go to Hobart as they do have a shoulder on them. Remember to put anti-sieze on them so you can get them out another day.
You should be able to use a 5/8" heater hose from the auto parts store for the drain line fron the drain valve to the tailpiece. Just make sure you use screw type hose clamps, not the spring type that the machine may have come with.
As I told you in one of our phone conversations, domestic detergents are made to work slowly and they will not power thru the food on the dishes in the 3 minutes it has to do the cycle. There are powdered detergents out there like Commercial Cascade you can buy. They used to sell a powdered detergent in large bags but they can go rock hard if not used quickly or stored properly. You <span style="text-decoration: underline;">CAN</span> install a detergent feeder for a liquid as well as a rinse agent feeder. Ecolab can provide that equipment aand the detergent and rinse agent.
The power feed for the detergent is taken off the first fill solenoid terminal and the rinse agent actually has a terminal on the timer to connect to.
Bubble Bandit won't do in this machine.You can use it upstairs in the domestic unit.
I was going to try the local hardware place I just did not know if they would have it as you noted because of the sholder.. I think they should have it however.. Good call on the heater hose I did not think about that one I will have to check that out. The Ecolab sounds pricy.. Is it some type of automated control or something? We wont be washing everyday, I'd say maybe every 3 weeks at the most.. which will pick up in Aug to almost every day.
stevet
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Hatco Gauge
Mike, I guess you didn't hear me whenwe talked on the phone the other day.I said that I had a few new spare Hatco gauges and would send you one if you wanted it. Impulse buying is expensive! Can you cancel it?
Mike, I guess you didn't hear me whenwe talked on the phone the other day.I said that I had a few new spare Hatco gauges and would send you one if you wanted it. Impulse buying is expensive! Can you cancel it?
Question say I got a ecolab dispenser where would it connect? I assume it would tie in before the solnolid as far as the commercial cascade I can't seem to locate any but I noticed a few ecolab dispensers on ebay and was wondering if something like this would be good?
stevet
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Didn't I tell you where
in an email I sent back to you?
It should be an easy hook up but would likely need calibration by an ecolab tech.
You would probably be better off having them do the whole thing since as long as you buy the detergent and rinse agent from them they will install and maintain the equipment for free.
As far as the commercial Cascade goes, you can purchase it from GFS (Gordon Food Service) stores which are popping up all over or online. You won't find it in a supermarket.
Sadly they have reformulated it without phosphates like there older product.I have not tried it yet but the older formulation worked well and defintiely had chlorine bleach in it and wiped out stains well.
in an email I sent back to you?
It should be an easy hook up but would likely need calibration by an ecolab tech.
You would probably be better off having them do the whole thing since as long as you buy the detergent and rinse agent from them they will install and maintain the equipment for free.
As far as the commercial Cascade goes, you can purchase it from GFS (Gordon Food Service) stores which are popping up all over or online. You won't find it in a supermarket.
Sadly they have reformulated it without phosphates like there older product.I have not tried it yet but the older formulation worked well and defintiely had chlorine bleach in it and wiped out stains well.
See they are not looking for any extra expense, and having ecolab to come in and set that up they would not go for that, remember I'm fixing this dishwasher with my own out of pocket money.
The only reason why I asked about the ecolab was I can see someone putting normal powder or a tablet in the dishwasher not know it's just a 4 min cycle.
I will say if cacade dropped the phosphorus in the commercial version then what are commercial users using now for powder degergent?
The only reason why I asked about the ecolab was I can see someone putting normal powder or a tablet in the dishwasher not know it's just a 4 min cycle.
I will say if cacade dropped the phosphorus in the commercial version then what are commercial users using now for powder degergent?
Zep Chemical
Make a powdered product called Zepomatic that seems to be old school. Grainger and other places list it.
Most interesting thread--good luck!
Mitch
Make a powdered product called Zepomatic that seems to be old school. Grainger and other places list it.
Most interesting thread--good luck!
Mitch
Yeah I grew up around a lot of Hobart stuff so I have respect for them, anyone else would of just tossed this 
I would guess by the time I'm done I will have spent around $400 out of pocket not really worried about that I rather see this fine DW back in service.
I will check out the stuff at Grainger, thanks for the tip!
I would guess by the time I'm done I will have spent around $400 out of pocket not really worried about that I rather see this fine DW back in service.
I will check out the stuff at Grainger, thanks for the tip!
