Hoover Electron 800 Deluxe

[sadose]

Guys

As some of you may know I am now the proud owner of a Hoover Energy Control Series Electron 800 De Luxe. I know a lot of you are knowledgable about older machines...so, any ideas why the machine is not spinning in between the rinses on the cottons cycles?

 

[nickuk]

I don't think they did.......

I have a feeling they only span before the softener rinse. Perhaps they were `saving energy' ;-)

What does it do? After distribute, does the timer `click on' as if for spin and then the motor just stops, pump still running untill the next `click' to open the water valve for the next rinse?

Does the machine do a final spin? If not, the brushes may be worn. No out of balance sensing problems with this machine, I don't think, so the problem must be timer or motor related. Unless the pump isn't draining fast enough - the machine probably should be distributing with no water in the tub in order for the spin command to be accepted.

Would love to help - tell me as much as you can about the prob

Cheers

Nick

 

[sadose]

it spins before the softener rinse and at other points it just distributes after the rinses, final spin is wonderful! just replaced brushes in it yesterday. new pump is on its way however as it works but its not brilliant. it just clicks on and opens the water valve.

 

[newwave1]

hi sadose,
well my logic spins after the 1st,2nd & 3rd rinse.

Normally after the distribution on rinses, the timer clicks on the drum stops & then redistributes & goes into orbit of course without any balancing & they do distribute with alot of water in. one of the best parts of the cycle is the as i named it "power distribution" lol.

tell me sadose. do you have a pic of this wonderful machine?

D

 

[sadose]

pics to follow Darren. im storing it at my partner's at the moment and doing some work to it. ive put new brushes in the motor and a new drive belt on, it needs a new door boot and pump which ive bought off ebay. will be getting it home and connected hopefully next weekend, i picked it up from a bloke just getting it out of his car at our local tip, 22 yrs old and he has changed it for a Proline!!!! he told me it didnt spin properly and his wife ordered that it was disposed of!

 

[gizmo]

I'm not familiar with the Electron model name, is it basically the 1970s and early 1980s Hoover front loader made in Wales? These machines were sold here in Aus, originally imported but later made here and model by model they moved away from the UK design to become more of a uniquely Aussie machine. The last versions were called the Electra-economiser,and finally just the Electra. Earlier ones were called the Zodiac.
All variants sold here do NOT spin between rinses, they only do a short spin before the final rinse, and a longer spin at the end. They still distribute between rinses but don't actually spin. Although overall I love those machines, I have owned dozens and still own three, the lack of spins between rinses is their weakest point as far as I am concerned.

Chris.

 

[fredriksam]

Hmm i wonder. Does the machine look like the one below? I have such machine and it "sometimes" spin between all rinses. I belive there is a fault in the timer but don´t know exactly where. I have also changed brushes in mine and the drum bearings too. Not exactly easy, but hey. I bought the machine for 50 swedish kronor and thats cheap for a washing machine.

pic:

 

[sadose]

In essence mine is like that but mine is the facelifted version which is slightly newer. the one above is the first series electron, the one i have is about 2 years younger i would say.

 

[sadose]

Hard towels

Guys

Any ideas what could be causing my electron to flush the softener into wash as soon as it fills? it did it 3 times in a row then i tried it without softner and on the fill for wash, water is tricking into the softener compartment in the middle which is highly annoying even after ive turned water pressure down, ive cleaned the drawer and recess and its still doing it. :'(

 

[newwave1]

if worst comes to worst u'll have to keep ur eye on it & add softener at last minute! lol Dontcha just love those hoover water levels!

D

 

[sadose]

i think water could be dribbling from somewhere, i will examine tomorrow evening and see what i can conclude.

 

[gizmo]

Hi Sadose
again I have to mention that I am NOT familiar with your model, so what I have to say is sort of generic washing machine advice.

The function of deciding which compartment in the dispenser gets water at which time is done in two ways, either (1)the cold inlet valve is a multiple valve, and the timer selects which of the inlet solenoids is energised, one solenoid will feed the prewash section, one will feed the main wash section and one will feed the softener section of the dispenser, OR (2) there is only one hot and one cold inlet valve, and the function of directing where the water goes is done by a spring loaded lever connected to the timer, it mechanically turns a nozzle inside the dispenser drawer to send the water flow to each section of the drawer in turn. For this second type you see a thin rod, plastic arm or a cable running across inside the top of the machine from the dispenser to the timer, just behind the dial. The back of the knob has a series of bumps on it (cams) which mover the lever across varying amounts to change where the water nozzle is pointed.

If it is the first type, yout fault may be a leaky cold solenoid or a wiring fault.
If your machine is the second type (which would be my guess) then the linkaage from the timer to the dispenser is out of adjustment. It is a common fault on this type of machine. Usually on top of the dispenser you will see a spring and nearby a pointer, the tip of which fits into a notch. There are maybe a dozen notches in a row, you can adjust the dispenser by turning the pointer to sit into a different notch. Your fault could be caused by - the pointer being in the wrong notch, the rotatable nozzle being stuck or jammed in one position by an accumulation of old detergent or water residue, or possibly even by excessive water pressure.

Have a look and a fiddle, come back for further help if you need it.

Chris.