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Make friends with your local engineer if your using this old girl as your daily driver!.

Keep in mind these machines were never quiet even in there day, most people just put up with the noise back in the day, I think we have all become soft since the 80's.
 
wear

if the armature has worn, the brushes in time will wear to this and get less noisy..........its very hard to work out if a noise is correct or not from a description

The motors used in these machines are of excellent build and qaulity, the fact that there so many still running is testimony to them being well built and designed

If you watch any of the youtube vids of this type of 1100 machine the motors all have a characteristic sound, if this bothers you then you can fit sound absorbing sheets in side the machine, or just slip a peice of short pile carpet under the machine.

Me i personally like the sound they make :-)

Good luck

Ps did you sort out the rinse hold feature on "G" ?
 
Hello all sorry I have been late!

My foot has been playing up and what not so have not been online much.

Managed to sort the rinse hold thing out on G, it was only doing its "thing" so to speak and I thought the button was for like a slower spin etc didnt realise what it really did!

The washing machine motor does not sound like the one in the videos you did of your machine.

I know they make a distint noise but this makes a whining sound when spinning and is very very noisy.

It also makes a grating sound when the drum goes anti clockwise but not so much when its going clockwise.

The engineer told me that theres play in the armature which means its slipping a bit.

Nothing wrong with anything else and the drum is solid and smooth so its gotta be the motor.

True is its almost as noisy as the old washer and before the bearing was replaced on the motor it wasnt this noisy.

The repair man even said he put the brushes in the same place they came out of and ive done about 18 washes since so I would have expected any wear in to loosen off.

Im wondering whether I will get away with buying a new armature, im looking around at the mo for one and have a few people going to ring me back.

Contacted marknrosemary via ebay and waiting for a response.

Hoover spares website has it listed for quite a high price:

A3110 armature | www.4hoover.co.uk

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However unifit have it listed at £23.51


Would you say this is enough to sort the noise out, if it was running like yours in the video it would not be a problem but its not purring away like that its almost like its in pain like a grating noise.

I not sure what to do really whether I will get away with a new armature of if the motors done in but he said the motor itself looked fine and very clean.

Really want to keep this machine as my daily worker as it washes beautifully and just gets on with it.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks.
 
1100 motor

Hello Richard

It is very hard to diagnose faults this way, i know it is not easy for you but it is not easy for any of use out here aswell.

The enigneers comments about the armature slipping makes no sense to me at all.

I can understand the drive belt slipping, this will cause a sort of crunching noise when the drum starts to turn on the wash action.

It could be a broken brush is causing the noise

I am sorry richard but without looking at the machine i cannot diagnose the fault

£58.00 seems a very good price for a new motor if you can get it then that will certainly remove any problems in that area.
Fitting these is easy, the electrical connections are all on one block, and you will need two 17mm ring spanners to fit it, if you dont want to undertake this job then have a chat with your engineer and see how much he will want to put it in for you.

If you do replace the motor then change the drive belt aswell.

If you reallyu like the machine then i would say yes go for it, but i am bias on this one as i know these to be good washing machines through owning one myself, and i certainly cannot think of a modern day equivelant that i would happily replace it with.

Gary
 
Yeh, he says that its because the front bearing collapsed on the motor seizing it up almost and now the armature with new bearings is not as snug as before there is some wear on the armature shaft so that it is perhaps moving back and forth in the motor housing.

WOuld you suggest a new motor or a armature?

He says the rest of the motor is ok? bUT for sake of £40 surely its worth the new motor?
 
Motors

Ah right ok, yes if the motor shaft has worn then there will be play.

So go for the complete motor and belt and be done, yes it will be worth it

Gary
 
Timers

hows long is a peice of string Richard is my answer......timers can last years and years or not long at all..........its a lottery.....

I have used one of the red bladed pumps on an 1100 so that would be my choice

So how much will your engineer want for fitting the new motor?

also where are you getting your new motor?

Gary
 
timer

Hi Richard,

I wouldn't worry about the timmer, generally if a fault occurs with a washing machine it is due to a conponent the timer is switching rather than the timer itself. Also with these timers, the little motors that do the advancement and 2 minute cycling can be easily changed, so even timer faults can usually be repaired.

With reguards the pump, if it works and doesn't leak why change it. But I would say if you sort out the motor and as you say the drum bearings are good, then don't worry about the other components, I've used my A3060, the previous model for over 10 years as a regular machine, it came of a skip, I put in a new pump( salvaged of a scrap machine) and other than a door seal its nothing has ever gone wrong. And it was used for 20 years before I got it lol.

Two other thoughts, If you see another one, either rehome it or salvage the parts, and if yours has a door with the inner pannel made of metal, then after every wash when you open the door a bead of water will run down the glass and run into the door causeing over time the bottom of the door to rust, so be ready with a cloth to catch the drips when you open the door.
I grant you this is a bit faff, but I've seen so many with rusted doors, also by the time the electron version came out, the inner section of the door was plastic, with a channel to direct the drip onto the floor and not into the door frame.

Gary will be giving me a right old hiding for pointing out an imperfection in a hoover design. But I just love them for it.

So sort out whats needed and enjoy the machine if faults crop up, ask and I'm sure between us we can advise on a course of action.

Mathew
 
OMG

Has the world fallen off its axel!!!Hoover imperfections...no..thats just a management opportunity for the design team!!!

Richard , the one thing you`ll soon get the hang of with an old wordly machine, "If it aint broke...Dont fix It" Tweak Tighten & Clean is the first motto...when a part breaks, resign yourself to usually a simple repair...BECAUSE...thats what you can do with old machines that dont rely on complicated circuit boards & stuff!!

Get the motor fixed and spend your money on decent powder, dont listen to those so called experts who say home rule is best...and then over time look out for spares, gaskets, pipes & pumps and stash em in a box ready for when you need them..

Enjoy, Mike
 
Got the motor from ebay:


Engineer is wanting £45 to fit the motor. I also said I wanted him to check the sump as something is rattling around and keeps getting caught in the pump.

The pump drains fine at present but is just noisy and rattly.

At £10 a pump still think I should get one but it dont leak, its still the original one.

Dont wanna end up with another call out.

He wants £45 to fit the new motor whether thats with a pump or not, I really cant afford to do this as already spent £65 on him fitting new bearings :(

Not technical enough to do this myself and dont have the tools either!
 
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Logic motor

Hello Richard
The motor you have bought is from the later Logic range of washers, whilst it will fit the electrical connections are different between these motors and the older Hoover motors so you might want to warn your engineer about this, so he can bring suitable connectors to convert, im sure somewhere i saw a conversion kit for the old style connector to the later Logic motor one..........you could ask the bloke you have bought it from about this

Gary
 
Hate to say it but changing the motor bearings really is a waste of time when for a few more quid and less hastle you can just put on a new armature.

As Gary says you will need a connection plug kit, as the connector for these logics is quite an unusual plug.

The bad news is it will be a part long obsolete now, unless anyone can tell me differently?

Apart from someone on here having an old logic that you can take the plug off or soldering the wires on, its
not going to fit...
 
Logic connector Plugs

Yes Bertrum that is going to be the easiest way of doing it, getting a Logic plug cutting it off and soldering the wires to the 1100 motor wires

Gary

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Oh bugger just as if it can get any harder.

I dont actually have access to other washing machines as I dont collect them or have that interest either.

So the price is just going to go up and up, I think I should just cut my losses and get rid of the machine.

Its too much fathing about, the price he quoted was for swapping out the motor etc not for soldiering on connections.

He isnt going to have the connectors either I bet.

Oh what am I gonna do! :(
 
Well I must say if you do end up getting rid of the machine after all this hassle you have had then please let me know and im sure we can arrange for it to have a new home in our collection.

Dont send it to the dump!!!!
 

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