richardc1983
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Another video on spin after first rinse
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keymatic3203
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metal clip
Hi, that piece of metal is the clip from beneath the soap dispenser, it acts as a drawer stop, nothing vital, it just helps reduce rattle when unbalanced spinning.
Well done, the machine looks great.
Hi, that piece of metal is the clip from beneath the soap dispenser, it acts as a drawer stop, nothing vital, it just helps reduce rattle when unbalanced spinning.
Well done, the machine looks great.
keymatic3203
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Motor noise
Having now watched the videos, the frequency of the noise on the wash speed definatly is the motor speed, sounds like the armature has a high spot thats knocking on the field coils. If it wasn't making that noise before the new bearings, I'd say the armature was damaged when the motor was taken apart. Possibly clamped in a vice when pulling the old bearings off, or the motor being out of alignment when reassembled. Behind the rattling noise those new bearings sound good. If that was coming from the brushes, I would think they would have turned to powder by now.
The new motor should definatly be the answer, as has been said before on this thread they bolt on with three M10 17 mm bolts and the power supply plugs in the back, just give the belt resonable tensionand thats it. As always make sure the plug is out before taking any pannel off, I've been zapped before.
Mathew
Having now watched the videos, the frequency of the noise on the wash speed definatly is the motor speed, sounds like the armature has a high spot thats knocking on the field coils. If it wasn't making that noise before the new bearings, I'd say the armature was damaged when the motor was taken apart. Possibly clamped in a vice when pulling the old bearings off, or the motor being out of alignment when reassembled. Behind the rattling noise those new bearings sound good. If that was coming from the brushes, I would think they would have turned to powder by now.
The new motor should definatly be the answer, as has been said before on this thread they bolt on with three M10 17 mm bolts and the power supply plugs in the back, just give the belt resonable tensionand thats it. As always make sure the plug is out before taking any pannel off, I've been zapped before.
Mathew
richardc1983
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Well done Keymatic id have never have known, I guess its broken off at some stage and been eaten by the machine! Glad I know what its off though... thanks for that.
In regards to the motor issue... yeh I do believe hes damaged it, he said it was really hard to get off the bearing so I guess hes used some kind of vice to get it off and this is whats damaged the armature, it doesnt seem to feel as stiff now though but the noise is the annoyance and doesnt seem to be subsiding. Guess theres no way to prove that though however I do feel he should be fitting the new parts though considering he has damaged the armature!
I have spoken to mark from ebay as in marknrosemary... fantastic bloke, really glad ive spoken to him as hes given me the confidence to do the repair myself rather than having to get the engineer back out.
He personally thinks whilst the easiest solution is to get the motor that he has as this will just fit in replacmement of the other, he thinks that I should keep the brand new logic motor as they were more reliable as the bearings were different and this should ultimately live upto the daily use I am going to give it. The motor he has, has had a new armature at some stage in its life and runs lovely but is not reconditioned as he says.
He says he might be able to sort me with an adapter for plug thats in the washer then with terminal block I could connect this up to the motor and he will provide instructions on doing so... this all depends on whether he can find the logic plug in his shed.
Failing that I will just purchase the motor from him and flog the logic motor on ebay or here.
He even said that if I have any timer issues he can usually sort me with another timer or fix mine for me its not an issue and he said most parts he can get or aquire so this is good news!
Either way I think the machine looks great with the new trim and a clean up and feel that ill get much use out of it when I have this motor issue resolved... whilst the machine is still usable you know how it feels when things are not quite right.
A pic of the back with the cover off...
In regards to the motor issue... yeh I do believe hes damaged it, he said it was really hard to get off the bearing so I guess hes used some kind of vice to get it off and this is whats damaged the armature, it doesnt seem to feel as stiff now though but the noise is the annoyance and doesnt seem to be subsiding. Guess theres no way to prove that though however I do feel he should be fitting the new parts though considering he has damaged the armature!
I have spoken to mark from ebay as in marknrosemary... fantastic bloke, really glad ive spoken to him as hes given me the confidence to do the repair myself rather than having to get the engineer back out.
He personally thinks whilst the easiest solution is to get the motor that he has as this will just fit in replacmement of the other, he thinks that I should keep the brand new logic motor as they were more reliable as the bearings were different and this should ultimately live upto the daily use I am going to give it. The motor he has, has had a new armature at some stage in its life and runs lovely but is not reconditioned as he says.
He says he might be able to sort me with an adapter for plug thats in the washer then with terminal block I could connect this up to the motor and he will provide instructions on doing so... this all depends on whether he can find the logic plug in his shed.
Failing that I will just purchase the motor from him and flog the logic motor on ebay or here.
He even said that if I have any timer issues he can usually sort me with another timer or fix mine for me its not an issue and he said most parts he can get or aquire so this is good news!
Either way I think the machine looks great with the new trim and a clean up and feel that ill get much use out of it when I have this motor issue resolved... whilst the machine is still usable you know how it feels when things are not quite right.
A pic of the back with the cover off...
richardc1983
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matchboxpaul
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The trials of vintage machine ownership!
Hi richard.
Sorry for not contributing to your thread recently - been busy, busy, busy.
Anyways - real good on you for persevering with the machine and fighting to get it going satisfactorily.
Thing is with old machines, there is always something you need to do on them.
I have a spreadsheet, for all the machines myself and rob own, and it is littered with jobs to do on them.
Being a bit of a perfectionist, it does my head in when i look at it.
All you can do is treat them with respect and deal with the jobs either when you have the time, or as the jobs arise.
Your A3110 really does look lovely, now it is with new door trim. Congrats on getting one and forking out for it. The clean up and polish has relly done the trick.
As Mathew says, that clip bit of metal hails from the middle screw, behind the powder drawer. Unfortunately your clip appears to have sheared off in the past. Dont worry though, as you are not alone, with our A3350 electron and A3960 ecologic both missing their clips. A bit of a weak point on them.
With Mark you will have a superb source of spares and advice. You dont have any worries in that department.
Just before I pop off and if the machine is still pulled out. Check the serial number and try work out the year and month of manufacture.
Serial number will start with 'A3110'.
The next digit signifies the year - probably be a '0' for 1980 or '1' for 1981, but could scrape into a '2' for 1982.
The next two digits signify the month e.g '01' for january, '03' for march through to '12' for december.
Be sure to let us know how old she is!
Cheers
Paul
Hi richard.
Sorry for not contributing to your thread recently - been busy, busy, busy.
Anyways - real good on you for persevering with the machine and fighting to get it going satisfactorily.
Thing is with old machines, there is always something you need to do on them.
I have a spreadsheet, for all the machines myself and rob own, and it is littered with jobs to do on them.
Being a bit of a perfectionist, it does my head in when i look at it.
All you can do is treat them with respect and deal with the jobs either when you have the time, or as the jobs arise.
Your A3110 really does look lovely, now it is with new door trim. Congrats on getting one and forking out for it. The clean up and polish has relly done the trick.
As Mathew says, that clip bit of metal hails from the middle screw, behind the powder drawer. Unfortunately your clip appears to have sheared off in the past. Dont worry though, as you are not alone, with our A3350 electron and A3960 ecologic both missing their clips. A bit of a weak point on them.
With Mark you will have a superb source of spares and advice. You dont have any worries in that department.
Just before I pop off and if the machine is still pulled out. Check the serial number and try work out the year and month of manufacture.
Serial number will start with 'A3110'.
The next digit signifies the year - probably be a '0' for 1980 or '1' for 1981, but could scrape into a '2' for 1982.
The next two digits signify the month e.g '01' for january, '03' for march through to '12' for december.
Be sure to let us know how old she is!
Cheers
Paul
matchboxpaul
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p.s what glue did you stick your door trim on with?
Have to perform a similar task on a round door electron soon.
Paul
Have to perform a similar task on a round door electron soon.
Paul
electron1100
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Pauls Picture
Aye up Paul where have you been matey ;-)............nice picture you are using there
Richard
Like i said matey hang on have a bit of patience and all this will come right and you will have an excellent machine to use for years to come, i can probably find you a soap draw clip if you want one.
Also you do normal loads in these machines mate, coz that way you most likely to get a balanced spin.....i take it by now you had a "Bum spin" then ;-)........these are well emgineered machines.........
I really hope all this works for you Paul Mat and others have all given you good advise etc...,..
So we will see where we end up
Gary
Ps here is a crap fot of mine doing a wash in my garage, you are lucky in that yours lives in your home
Aye up Paul where have you been matey ;-)............nice picture you are using there
Richard
Like i said matey hang on have a bit of patience and all this will come right and you will have an excellent machine to use for years to come, i can probably find you a soap draw clip if you want one.
Also you do normal loads in these machines mate, coz that way you most likely to get a balanced spin.....i take it by now you had a "Bum spin" then ;-)........these are well emgineered machines.........
I really hope all this works for you Paul Mat and others have all given you good advise etc...,..
So we will see where we end up
Gary
Ps here is a crap fot of mine doing a wash in my garage, you are lucky in that yours lives in your home
richardc1983
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Thanks...
Hello everyone thank you for the messages.
I have been at a friends for the weekend to get me out the house as im house bound at the moment with a broken foot and non weight bearing and not back at work till January. This is why I was looking for a machine on freecycle in the first place due to sick pay and the obvious concern about spending money on this machine.
I have received an email tonight off chestermike inviting me along to a meet up at the weekend at Johns house... thank you all for inviting me particulary John whos house it is.
Unfortunatly due to my broken foot and also the fact I dont drive or have transport I would be unable to get there or bring the machine with me.
Its a real shame that none of you are closer up here as I would certainly invite you over for a beer and to work your magic on the machine.
I agree its in lovely cosmetic condition and ive only had to use a bit of glass cleaner to bring it up a treat.
Really gutted as it would have been a great opportunity to meet you and understand more about the machine.
Paul... I used evostick which I got supplied with the door, this is perfect for sticking these sort of things on with and I got this from Derek Hart who supplied the trim, he shipped it with the trim.
Thank you everyone just a shame I dont drive... I really must learn next year!
Hello everyone thank you for the messages.
I have been at a friends for the weekend to get me out the house as im house bound at the moment with a broken foot and non weight bearing and not back at work till January. This is why I was looking for a machine on freecycle in the first place due to sick pay and the obvious concern about spending money on this machine.
I have received an email tonight off chestermike inviting me along to a meet up at the weekend at Johns house... thank you all for inviting me particulary John whos house it is.
Unfortunatly due to my broken foot and also the fact I dont drive or have transport I would be unable to get there or bring the machine with me.
Its a real shame that none of you are closer up here as I would certainly invite you over for a beer and to work your magic on the machine.
I agree its in lovely cosmetic condition and ive only had to use a bit of glass cleaner to bring it up a treat.
Really gutted as it would have been a great opportunity to meet you and understand more about the machine.
Paul... I used evostick which I got supplied with the door, this is perfect for sticking these sort of things on with and I got this from Derek Hart who supplied the trim, he shipped it with the trim.
Thank you everyone just a shame I dont drive... I really must learn next year!
richardc1983
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I tend to have a dodgy spin also Gary if I perhaps maybe wash towels and not use a full load.
The older machines u can fit more in than u think because it wets it all down doesnt it.
Someone mentioned earlier I shouldnt be doing full loads as its such an old machine.
I remember checking the serial number and it was made in 1980 so is 30yrs old, cant remember the month though might have been September.
The soap drawer clip I have thrown away as I dont think it serves a purpose really as the drawer doesnt rattle and fits snug into the drawer container anyway, it might only get lost again... would you agree?
The older machines u can fit more in than u think because it wets it all down doesnt it.
Someone mentioned earlier I shouldnt be doing full loads as its such an old machine.
I remember checking the serial number and it was made in 1980 so is 30yrs old, cant remember the month though might have been September.
The soap drawer clip I have thrown away as I dont think it serves a purpose really as the drawer doesnt rattle and fits snug into the drawer container anyway, it might only get lost again... would you agree?
richardc1983
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anyone???
matchboxpaul
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Yep - dont worry....
...about that clip. It is there as a retainer and the machine would have to be doing one hell of an unbalanced spin for it to rattle the drawer out. If its a nice snug fit, then no need to worry too much about it.
I would say dont worry about doing full loads. Just dont overload the machine.
Remember, you have an old machine on the go there and you need to be a bit more gentle than with a newer machine.
Should serve you well.
Paul
...about that clip. It is there as a retainer and the machine would have to be doing one hell of an unbalanced spin for it to rattle the drawer out. If its a nice snug fit, then no need to worry too much about it.
I would say dont worry about doing full loads. Just dont overload the machine.
Remember, you have an old machine on the go there and you need to be a bit more gentle than with a newer machine.
Should serve you well.
Paul
richardc1983
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if I get these issues sorted out yeh!
richardc1983
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Does anyone fancy coming up to have a look at my machine! Will pay you petrol!!!
richardc1983
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OH gosh I cant take this noise much more... its sooooo loud!
richardc1983
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Getting the new A3110 motor tmrw so I can just swap it over. Missed the courier today 
matchboxpaul
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Again, good on you Richard for persevering with it.
Good luck with catching the courier and fingers crossed for final success.
Has been a bit of a saga for you!
paul
Good luck with catching the courier and fingers crossed for final success.
Has been a bit of a saga for you!
paul
richardc1983
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Yeh I got a motor from Mark on Ebay, its the proper A3110 motor and has new brushes. He will also look at this motor for me to see if its saveable but will deal with that at a later stage just wanna get this resolved at the moment as this motor is really noisy.
richardc1983
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Motor is now in, motor now purrs away, very very quiet and running nicely now.
I have had a closer look at the motor that was in and the noise is coming from the other side of the armature would be, opposite to where the belt goes.
The back bearing it seems is making the noise.
Im gonna send it onto Mark to have a look, the motor that was in cosmetically looks like new still!
I have had a closer look at the motor that was in and the noise is coming from the other side of the armature would be, opposite to where the belt goes.
The back bearing it seems is making the noise.
Im gonna send it onto Mark to have a look, the motor that was in cosmetically looks like new still!
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