Hoover Vision VHD9143ZD 9kg Washer?
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samsungfl
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Hmmm that cant be right :S Because my Zanussi I had was 6kg and the hoover is a great deal bigger even to look at LOL, I dont have to cram things in anymore. But I've never been one to trust the amount of litres brochures e.t.c quote a drum to be LOL They always seem to be wrong, it was the same with the Zanussi to LOL
Richard
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Well, those specifications are Hoover's own. Here's the link to the brochure, it's in Dutch, the specifications are at the last page. BTW, it's a pdf file.
Ofcourse it's possible Zanussi is also overrating the capacity of it's machines. That wouldn't be the first time, a Dutch consumer test from 1982 stated that the 42 litres drum of the Zanussi really couldn't hold the claimed 5kg of laundry.
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Ofcourse it's possible Zanussi is also overrating the capacity of it's machines. That wouldn't be the first time, a Dutch consumer test from 1982 stated that the 42 litres drum of the Zanussi really couldn't hold the claimed 5kg of laundry.
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samsungfl
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Ah thats cool, thanks for the information! Litres of drums always confuse me because so many maufacturers either just get it wrong or, as yoy say over rate their machines. But I must say now ive had the Hoover for a while, when I see a 6kg machine they seem really small now to me, but after using one of course I know they actually arent LOL
Thanks for the info
Richard
Thanks for the info
Richard
You're welcome!
Personally I find the claimed capacity in kgs much more confusing. That can be very easily manipulated while the litres of a drum cannot.
I would advise to take a good amount of towels with you to the store to see how many can fit in various machines.
Personally I find the claimed capacity in kgs much more confusing. That can be very easily manipulated while the litres of a drum cannot.
I would advise to take a good amount of towels with you to the store to see how many can fit in various machines.
samsungfl
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LOL I always used to think of doing that, althought It'd look quite strange and suspcious!
At least it'd give you a proper idea of how much a machine can take!
I'm just really hoping Hoover replace my washer now, there coming on Tuesday and im already nervous about what there gonna say LOL
Richard
At least it'd give you a proper idea of how much a machine can take!
I'm just really hoping Hoover replace my washer now, there coming on Tuesday and im already nervous about what there gonna say LOL
Richard
rolls_rapide
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You could always drag a King Size duvet to the stores instead, and see how many machines can actually take it.
Can you imagine the looks you would get? Ha Ha!
Can you imagine the looks you would get? Ha Ha!
samsungfl
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LOL Imagine how crazy that would look! I imagine security would escort you out of the shop personally! Down here they would anyway I bet 
Hehe
Anyone got any ideas about what Hoover are gonna do about my washer!?? I cant be bothered to argue with them, but if I have to I will LOL
Richard
Hehe Anyone got any ideas about what Hoover are gonna do about my washer!?? I cant be bothered to argue with them, but if I have to I will LOL
Richard
islingtonsteve
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Hey Samsung
The post that Dyson directed you to was mine froma couple months ago. i've had the 9KG drum for a while ( and my Sister has the 1600 model) now and I couldnt be happier.
it really is super silent , awesome washing/rinsing and spinning results and very quick programs. Nothing wrong with mine so far and would recommend these to anyone. The drum is HUGE. I'm not sure of the actual litre size but it's much much bigger than my old 6KG bosch and you can see the difference between mine at the 7KG AEG washer/dryer my friend hasm.
Not great to hear that you've had problems with yours..but to be honest from th pics you posted a while back of the extremely high water levels I wonder if that has something to do with the motor burn out? The strength needed from the motor to turn the drum when filled with laundry and so much water must be an amazing drain on the motor. While my model ( and my sisters) uses a fantastic water level for rinsing compared to most new machines it uses no where near the aount shown in your earlier pics and I cant help but think this was a cause?
Any questions just ask...thanks
The post that Dyson directed you to was mine froma couple months ago. i've had the 9KG drum for a while ( and my Sister has the 1600 model) now and I couldnt be happier.
it really is super silent , awesome washing/rinsing and spinning results and very quick programs. Nothing wrong with mine so far and would recommend these to anyone. The drum is HUGE. I'm not sure of the actual litre size but it's much much bigger than my old 6KG bosch and you can see the difference between mine at the 7KG AEG washer/dryer my friend hasm.
Not great to hear that you've had problems with yours..but to be honest from th pics you posted a while back of the extremely high water levels I wonder if that has something to do with the motor burn out? The strength needed from the motor to turn the drum when filled with laundry and so much water must be an amazing drain on the motor. While my model ( and my sisters) uses a fantastic water level for rinsing compared to most new machines it uses no where near the aount shown in your earlier pics and I cant help but think this was a cause?
Any questions just ask...thanks
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Just to highlight.. Here's a pic yu posted of the rinse level on your vision...
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And here's the pic of the rinse level on my machine which I have never seen go higher...
samsungfl
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Yeah thats very true! 
I dred to think how hard it must be for it to turn with water levels that high, however the Brush motor on mine isnt large enough to cope with such a big drum to be honest, when the engineer came out to it the first time and took it off, it looked no bigger than the one of my Zanussi really which I thought was quite worrying, it was then i realised why it probably struggles to start a tumble sometimes in the wash!
Thats why I think I'm going to get them to replace it with the 9kg induction motor Hoover, would be a great help if you could fill me in a bit on your washer its quite intrestin, is the new 3 phase motor as powerfull as it claims to be??
And hey call me Richard, Samsung is just my username on here LOL
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I dred to think how hard it must be for it to turn with water levels that high, however the Brush motor on mine isnt large enough to cope with such a big drum to be honest, when the engineer came out to it the first time and took it off, it looked no bigger than the one of my Zanussi really which I thought was quite worrying, it was then i realised why it probably struggles to start a tumble sometimes in the wash!Thats why I think I'm going to get them to replace it with the 9kg induction motor Hoover, would be a great help if you could fill me in a bit on your washer its quite intrestin, is the new 3 phase motor as powerfull as it claims to be??
And hey call me Richard, Samsung is just my username on here LOL
Richard
Are they that much bigger
Or are the comparisons overating their capacity, and the wide door portal makes it seem larger?
My 5.5kg Miele has a capacity of around 54L and most weeks I struggle to fill it right up. Occaisionally I'd like the 6.5kg model at 65L but its rare that I can fill it that full.
Has anyone compared a 6.5kg Miele to the 8 and 9kg Hoovers?
LG have been marketing 7 and 8kg FL machines here for ages, they usually end up taking 1 - 2 towels less than the 5.5kg Miele.
I know its hard to compare capacity, but could someone with an 8 or 9kg machine weigh a full mixed load of clothes? I'll do the same next weekend and we can compare?
Or are the comparisons overating their capacity, and the wide door portal makes it seem larger?
My 5.5kg Miele has a capacity of around 54L and most weeks I struggle to fill it right up. Occaisionally I'd like the 6.5kg model at 65L but its rare that I can fill it that full.
Has anyone compared a 6.5kg Miele to the 8 and 9kg Hoovers?
LG have been marketing 7 and 8kg FL machines here for ages, they usually end up taking 1 - 2 towels less than the 5.5kg Miele.
I know its hard to compare capacity, but could someone with an 8 or 9kg machine weigh a full mixed load of clothes? I'll do the same next weekend and we can compare?
I have an Hotpoint Aqualtis 8kg with an inverter motor and it's a fantastic machine. Seems to have absolutely no problems turning even the heaviest wash loads.
I'd be very interested to get the actual capacity of these drums in litres though. I'll measure up my Aqualtis when I get the chance and work out the drum capacity.
It'd be great if anyone else on here with an 8kg+ machine could do the same.
Measure the diameter and divide by 2 to get the radius (R)
Measure the depth of the drum (H)
We'll do the rest on here!
Stick to centimetres to keep things simple!!
I'd be very interested to get the actual capacity of these drums in litres though. I'll measure up my Aqualtis when I get the chance and work out the drum capacity.
It'd be great if anyone else on here with an 8kg+ machine could do the same.
Measure the diameter and divide by 2 to get the radius (R)
Measure the depth of the drum (H)
We'll do the rest on here!
Stick to centimetres to keep things simple!!
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hey Richard
Not sure Hoover would replace the 8KG machine you have with there top of the line model. Would have thought they would just replace it with the same model that is defective!
As for the motor i would say it's more than powerful enough to handle such a large drum and also the complex drum movements it makes. Particularly evident on the more delicate cycles. The wool wash uses a pulse technology and its very effective. I've never known a wool cycle to completely turn over the entire load in such a way that happens in he 9KG vision. Hard to explain but it turns the drum three times - quarter drum movement at a time(x3) in one direction and then the same movement anti clockwise straight away without any pauses. So it's a 6 quarter movement drum action within the space of abut 9 seconds. I'e never seen a machine to have such strong sharp drum movements like that before. As it uses a high water level it seems very gentle yet very effective on wool .
It seems to have a huge amount of torque.
Not sure Hoover would replace the 8KG machine you have with there top of the line model. Would have thought they would just replace it with the same model that is defective!
As for the motor i would say it's more than powerful enough to handle such a large drum and also the complex drum movements it makes. Particularly evident on the more delicate cycles. The wool wash uses a pulse technology and its very effective. I've never known a wool cycle to completely turn over the entire load in such a way that happens in he 9KG vision. Hard to explain but it turns the drum three times - quarter drum movement at a time(x3) in one direction and then the same movement anti clockwise straight away without any pauses. So it's a 6 quarter movement drum action within the space of abut 9 seconds. I'e never seen a machine to have such strong sharp drum movements like that before. As it uses a high water level it seems very gentle yet very effective on wool .
It seems to have a huge amount of torque.
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just looked on the net and one of the online retailers has the drum size in litres as 67 ( and I did check that this was the drum size not the amount of water used per wash load )
samsungfl
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Thanks for the info islingtonsteve!! Im not hoping they replace it with their top of the line model because simply, that'll never happen LOL, However as my 8kg machine and your 9kg one seem to be the same price in the shop hopefully they'll replace it with that if I ask, because I think it'll be pointless having another 8kg one with a brush motor which cant handle the size of the drum and the weight, so im gonna rebel a bit with them LOL!
The motor on yours sounds very impressive, sounds like they produce alot more torque than standard motors, Ive seen in vids the way the can just pull the drum about with ease! looks great!
Richard
The motor on yours sounds very impressive, sounds like they produce alot more torque than standard motors, Ive seen in vids the way the can just pull the drum about with ease! looks great!
Richard
aeg03
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The Dutch brochure shows the Hoover Vision with a power jet. My AEG Lavamat 72640 sometines struggles to move from rest but the moter seems fine for the 5 years I've had it. I like the look of the Hoover Vision but don't like the high water levels.
samsungfl
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Strange that the brochure shows the Vision with the power jet :S! Personally I think the rinse levels are great, apart from when it fills almost to the top because i think its so fun to watch but such a waste, but now ive had to use the Ipso washers at the laundrette 
, ive really noticed a huge diffrent in rinsing
- clothes have dried stiff and dont feel rinsed properly which is a shame!
I so cant wait to have a proper wash back LOL
Richard
, ive really noticed a huge diffrent in rinsing- clothes have dried stiff and dont feel rinsed properly which is a shame!
I so cant wait to have a proper wash back LOL
Richard
samsungfl
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Last Day.....
.... Before then engineer comes! Anyone got any ideas on what there gonna do?! Like I say were refusing an repair I think because such a failure on a 4months old machine isnt acceptable!
Nerves are starting to kick in now LOL
Richard
.... Before then engineer comes! Anyone got any ideas on what there gonna do?! Like I say were refusing an repair I think because such a failure on a 4months old machine isnt acceptable!
Nerves are starting to kick in now LOL
Richard
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