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Robert,

As usual you've done a wonderful job and brought a beautiful
old machine back to life. You're descriptions and pictures
are always clear and make me feel like I'm right there.
Thanks for letting us all enjoy these restorations with you.

Patrick
 
You should do a load on the short cycle and compare how long it's overflow rinse is. I dount the first spin could be any shorter than 1.5. LOL.
 
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Hey Robert,
wonderful! I have really enjoyed everything you have shared with us about this restoration. Hope you add it to that section - I want to look through it all again.
A beautiful machine, very 1950's.
Question: How's the sudsing problem on this one? I seem to recall Hotpoints had serious oversudsing problems and fixed them with the agitator? Or am I confused. (Or as my students would put it, confusing...)
 
Robert, how quick is the machine in getting up to full spin speed? I assume it must be pretty fast to fit into a 1.5 minute wash spin-off.
 
Another great restoration Robert! Congratulations!
Love the lighted pushbuttons too!
 
Well, well

As the number one Hotpoint fan in this club,(ha ha) I am duly impressed by your restoration and your ingenuity. How you totally reworked the clutch jaw and spider clutch just smacks of genius. This machine is a great example of Hotpoint's color coded button scheme. A great sell point that worked then and also what makes vintage Hotpoint so endearing and collectable to us now. I can look at it all day long. Also, Mary Tyler Moore makes a great Happy Hotpoint Doesn't she?
 
simply gorgeous

Those lighted pushbuttons are like candy--can't get enough of them. That machine is absolutely dazzling.

Mystified by that neutral overflow before the rinse agitation: What do you suppose is going on there--the purpose? What was the engineer's fantasy?

What's the pumping and draining like?

Why not do a load of just a few towels for the video so we can study the currents and turnover.

You're amazing--too bad there's no Nobel for Washing Machine Geniuses.

Mikey
 
you never cease to amaze me ......

your tenacity and perserverance AGAIN pays off in a truly remarkable and what almost seemed impossible restoration, many congrads Robert, unbelievable ...............
 
Wow

What a cool machine!

I love Wonderdial and the lighted push buttons. (Are they similar to the lighted pushbuttons on GE and Hotpoint stoves?)

You never cease to amaze me. I admire both your talent and your patience.

The sheets were pretty cool too.

Awesome pics. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait for the video.

Mike
 
How's the sudsing problem on this one?
Kevin actually Solid Tub Hotpoint washers suds very little, especially with the high post straight vane agitators.

Robert, how quick is the machine in getting up to full spin speed?
Les, it takes about 65 seconds to get the tub up to full speed with a full load of clothes and water. That is why I was surprised to see only a 90 second first spin.

Mystified by that neutral overflow before the rinse agitation: What do you suppose is going on there--the purpose?
Not sure Mike, but I bet they thought a calm overflow would help float any extra scum over the top of the tub. Kelvinator does the exact same thing.

Are they similar to the lighted pushbuttons on GE and Hotpoint stoves?
Yes Mike, they are the exact same part, but with less buttons.
 
Mystified by that neutral overflow before rinse agitation...

I think I know what's going on here. Is this a timed fill machine?

What happens with timed fill machines is that the water retained in the clothes reduces the fill requirement for the rinse, resulting in an early overflow.

This puzzled me at one time, too, and so I measured the wash discharge in my laundry tub and found that you don't get all the water back, especially with a large, bulky or absorbent load. The delta seemed to be 2-->3 gallons, which is quite a bit. It's almost enough overfill (at times) to eliminate one timer increment of the rinse fill period. **I am assuming, of course, that the static fill periods are the same for both the wash and rinse.**

This is one of the reasons solid tubs and timed fills are problematic.
 
A NEW SAINT ANNOUNCEMENT !!!

Ms. Lotta Turnover (AKA Robert Seger) Has been deemed Patron Saint of Automatic Washers by Pope Mark I.
 
ok confused

Ah, right - I knew it was either way oversudsing or the other one :-)))
Robert, I can but plead long and faithful service together with youth and inexperience.
Seriously great work, here. I am, and remain impressed. What a beauty she is, too.
 
Lotta Turnover

i have to add to the acclaim. what i LOVE about Mr Segers work are the excellent descriptions and photos. im eagerly awaiting the demo videos. if only the machine manufacturers could put Robert in a time machine, he could work as a Frigidaire washer demonstrator. the restorations of these often badly decayed machines puts Mr Seger in the same class as the best classic car restorers.
 
Ms. Lotta Turnover (AKA Robert Seger) Has been deemed Patron Saint of Automatic Washers by Pope Mark I
Thanks Pope Mark I, do I get to wear a crown now?

What are the little rubber (?) tips on the corners of the agitator vanes supposed to do?
Your guess is as good as mine Ken, I suppose they were to help with turnover, but they wear down rather quickly. The rubber tipped Thriftivator that came with the machine those tips were worn down to the nubs. Luckily I just happened to have a NOS rubber tipped red Thriftivator in my stash-o-parts.
 
What happens with timed fill machines is that the water retained in the clothes reduces the fill requirement for the rinse, resulting in an early overflow.

I forgot to mention that I do think that Hotpoint designers purposely added extra fill time to the rinse as a non-agitated rinse overflow. Norge and Kelvinator both do this as well and Norge advertised it as a part of its four-step "Super-Rinse". I'm sure the engineers realized that it only takes 3.5 minutes to fill the rinse tub, but they extended the fill for another 2.5 minutes to allow as much floating materials to overflow as possible. When the agitator is moving, floating lint and scum have a tendency to move inwards towards the agitator and not towards the wash tub exit holes. In Frigidaire washers the rinse fill was one increment less than the wash fill to make up the difference of the water left in the clothes.
 
Robert--

Thanks for the rinse fill clarification; I didn't realize they [intentionally] made it longer. Gma's old Norge had super-rinse, but I can't quite recall if it used a static overflow period. Interestingly, I've never seen much evidence of floating debis or scum on the wash water--perhaps that idea was carried over from when soap use was prevalent.

Oh, can someone tell me what Austin was refering to when he mentions a double overflow rinse. Never hear of that. Does it mean that the inner tub overflows to the outer tub which then overflows onto the floor? Hey, he said "...double overflow..."

Better put the boots on now, its getting deep. (lol)
 
Robert, thanks for thie picture. It ruely is a Wonderdial!!!

But, ahme, Frigidaires left significantly less water in fibers than the Hotpoint, and the Hotpoint has longer rinse fill. Hmm. Bob concludes, Hotpoint is fun and dramatic, Frigidaire is econonmical to run lol. And I have to add, the wash basket, aside from the GE being speckled, reminds me very much of our 1955/1956 GE.
 
Hi Joe, when I mentioned "Double Overflow", the water shut off for one timer increment I believe (or less) during the overflow rinse (the machine still kept agitating though), and then it came back on again! After this, the water shut off again shortly before the pause for spin.

Greg (who has the '63 I'm referring to) will definitely give a better explanation than me on this one!!

--Austin
 
Austin, yo9u know I hold Frigidaire in a totally different galaxy than any other washer, none to compare. So, when you're there in your galaxy and your the standard, you can be dramatic, average, or inept and by all other's standards, it's still has me pulsating with overflowing excitement.
 

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