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I will believe the Equator when I see it. Who is manufacturing this machine.

IIRC arent Equators rebagded Philco machines or chinese machines?

Im surprised that someone like LG havent introduced a machine like this.
 
Yup, the machine in the pics is an Electrolux design, more or less identical inside to the Zanussi model we get here in the UK. The drum access flaps are still metal, with the plastic you see being an outer covering, presumably to stop them scuffing the top surround of the machine when open. Also helps to conceal any hinges, springs etc. that people are otherwise bound to stick their fingers into.

Perhaps the next step will be a fully automatic opening device, like that featured on the F&P top load dryer, so each time you lift the lid the drum is already open and ready to go.
 
h-axis washers

Well, that makes me smile a bit here....
This is absolutely nothing new!
All first combo-washers were h-axis TL - since about 1850!!
This was an invention of a french abbot during the 19th century whereas at about 100 years earlier a German monk invented the first agitator-washer together with a carpenter in Nürnberg (1763).
Unfortunately both machines did not succeed in the countries of origins....
Agitator-machines became most popular in America and Germany first, combos in England!
Later it turned the way round gradually and also in the UK agitator machines became most popular. Here in Germany there are nearly only combos available for about 30 years meanwhile. Today combos are on their way to victory all over the world....unfortunately to me...
TL H-Axis Washers were very popular in Germany 25-30 years ago, especially the very tiny space-savers (60x65x45 DxHxW)with full 10 lbs. capacity that even fitted underneath a bathroom wash-basin!
Nowadays most Germans prefer FL as they want to see what's going on in the machine (extra TV progamme!?).
Only France is still a TL H-Axis country.
One thing that Germans do not like very much on TL is, that there are two lids to be opened before you can get onto your washing. Also older models had no auto-adjustment of the drum, so you had to turn the full drum by hand until the inner lid was top and in line with the outer lid to open the machine. Many machines had dual axis suspension (on both sides) but that is very bad for high spin speeds, so nowadays even these machines have only one suspension and higher spin-speeds, too!
Ralf from Germany
 
As you can see

Ralf, as you could have seen the first electric washer was a tumbling washer with an horizontal axis drum and it was a TL...that was the first 1910's Thor patent.
Then Miele in Europe applicated an electric engine to the agitagor invention... I suppose it might been happend during the 1°WW...1914?!?

I honestly can't image how a such great invention like the Thos then has became so NOT popular... fortunately now US people are discovering the rotating drum again...but with the front loading!

The problem of having two lids I don't see it so awful... in past there were three!(cabinet-outertub-drum) Now the most has got only the major lid and then the drum lids... although the Miele EuroTLs for example I remeber have got still the three lids...
For the final positioning... now every brand has got in its range the top models with that automatic repositioning system.

Bye
Diomede
 
I was forced to have a TL h-axis some years ago due to space restrictions and initially thought I would miss seeing what was going on. Years later, and despite being able to have a traditional FL, I still have an h-axis as it takes up so little space and has the same capacity as a normal FL. It is AA rated and does a fantastic job of cleaning the dirtiest laundry. Personally, I don't know why they are not more popular, as they are in Europe
 
The fantasy...

I know many people here will claiming the EuroTL cause if you're a "wash-spotting"... you can't assist to the show... but try to make it with a strong sense of the fantasy...

With those green led on the control panel and an amazing splashy sound of the rotating drum I feel as I saw it the same...

Then none stops me opening the lid and see the sudsy drum... although it come stop as soon as I open...

I know many people here have bypassed their lidswithces of the v-axis TL... why can't you do the same on a h-asixTL?? Put the detergent directly in the drum and the seat down and look at there!

By the way... remeber to close the lid as the spinning cycle start... if you don't want to get soaking wet! LOL!

BYE
Diomede
 
the fantasy and others...

For heavens sake Diomede! Imagine a child or even an adult would put his fingers to the rotating drum....and gets the fingers between drum and outer container....it will badly injure the whole underarm and could probably bruise the hand or tear off fingers!!!
Concerning the techniques of H-Ax-TLs: Yes you are right, I remember the three lids very well but was to bored to mention them, as I thought, no-body would know about that outside Germany, because I believed, it was a special German thing.....how one can err!!
Yes, the electricity was fit to the MIELE machines just before WW I., I guess, but couldn't claim much popularity before time after the war and especially after WW II. because of a lack of electricity in many basement laundry-rooms and even more because of the price. There was an other type of motor, even more popular than the electric one: the hydro- or water-motor, working by the pressure from the tap. It never became available in Britain because of their low-pressure water-system (tank-system). This type of motor was only working with agitators as it moves back and forth like the cylinder of a steam-engine. There were also hydro-presses (one huge cylinder with a double bottom or rubber-bag to press out the water) and hydro-spinners (turbine-system) available but they never became as popular as wringers did.
Combo-washers weren't only available from MIELE but also from SIEMENS (Protos) and other brands as they had one advantage tub-washers hadn't: they could have a fire installed underneath to bring the suds to the boil while washing them simultaneously. Ok, there were also hydro-motors with agitators available to be sit-up on the rim of a copper-boiler instead of its lid, to make a heated washer out of an ordinary boiler! Nonetheless tub-washers have always been more popular because they were CHEAPER and MOVABLE! Remember that 80% of the Germans live(d) in RENTED FLATS! Fast installations, as for washers with a furnace, have to be allowed by the owner of the house, the land-lord, who seldom would do that...
When electricity prices dropped after WW II. washers with electric heaters were available and the law was changed, that forbid to use washing machines in flats. This was forced by the selling of so called flat-fine machines like the HOOVER singel-tub or twin-tubs with pulsator, an american invention, or agitator! These machines with 220V/1,5-2,0KW heater-elements were safe for the kitchen or bathroom and needn't a 380V/3-phase circuit installation as for big wringer-washers with 6kw heater-elements, made for the use in laundry-rooms in the basement.
During the Wirtschaftswunder-time after WW II. (thanks to the American support) Germany became wealthy again and the people could afford even automatic washers. Step by step the laundry-rooms disappeared during the 1960s-1970s and combos with 4,5-5,0 kg loads became popular - first FLs, then more and more space-saving H-Ax-TLs, and later the front-loaders again until today. What people do not like with TLs here today: they cannot stack them with the dryer!
Ralf from Germany
 
Of course Ralf!

I wouldn't do it for anything to let a washer like that working with the lid opened! It was a supposing situation from me... In fact I said to use the "fantasy", to imagine... I know it would be a traagedy if a child or an adult either put a hand on the rotating drum...

By the way, thanks for the really interesting history of the washers you posted, specially concerning the Germany...

About the technique of the h-axiTL I would say that there's no difference between here and there... at the end don't we call them generally EuroTL?!?! :-))

GoodBye, and thanks again for the precious informations!
Diomede
 

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