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How to get True Hot Wash
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Since your model does not seem to have a steam generator, the steam option will likly turn the heating element on to *somewhat* boost the temperature. The Deep Steam cycle will also raise the temperature. Certain cycles, like Heavy Duty or higher soil level can also increase the target temp.
Alex
Alex
This model has a heating element, doesn't it? So why is filling with hot water so important when you can use the extra hot setting?
rayjay
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The extra hot settinv only works when you select the sanitize cycle
It give a long 150 degree wash. I just want the hot water from my water heater
It give a long 150 degree wash. I just want the hot water from my water heater
I thought about a bit, yeah, let's say, more unconventional way of getting any temp you want, but it only works if it got one of these mixingchamber-systems with the sensor directly behind the inlet vavles I think.
What you need:
1. 1 2 foot hose and a shorter one
2. A matching sized drill.
3. Anything you need to open up the machine.
4. 1 standard Y-piece.
5. 1 Y-piece withe a valve (or 2).
1.Connected washer to both hot and cold.
2. Open the top of the washer, disconected the pipe from valve/mixing-camber to the dispenser on the dispenser side.
3. Get the longer hose-piece and drill a whole in the back of the machine that matches the diameter.
4. Now connected one Y-piece to the removed inlet-to-dispenser-hose.
5. The smaller hose is now used to connect the Y-piece to the dispenser.
6.The longer hose is connected to the Y-piece and placed through the whole in the back.
7. Now the Hot pipe is disconnected an connected to the none-valve Y-piece-side of the one with valve.
8.The hot inlet to the washer is connected to the non valve side of the Y-piece.
9. Now the reaming Y-piece side with valve is connected to the new hose.
If you now want a hot wash, you just have to turn the valve to open when the washer starts a cold fill and when enough water filled in the tub, you just close it again and still get cold rinses. The sytem van be optimized by turning of the cold faucet during the cold fill. And it can be used for purging the lines before the wash either. Just set it to drain and open the Y-piece valve...
What you need:
1. 1 2 foot hose and a shorter one
2. A matching sized drill.
3. Anything you need to open up the machine.
4. 1 standard Y-piece.
5. 1 Y-piece withe a valve (or 2).
1.Connected washer to both hot and cold.
2. Open the top of the washer, disconected the pipe from valve/mixing-camber to the dispenser on the dispenser side.
3. Get the longer hose-piece and drill a whole in the back of the machine that matches the diameter.
4. Now connected one Y-piece to the removed inlet-to-dispenser-hose.
5. The smaller hose is now used to connect the Y-piece to the dispenser.
6.The longer hose is connected to the Y-piece and placed through the whole in the back.
7. Now the Hot pipe is disconnected an connected to the none-valve Y-piece-side of the one with valve.
8.The hot inlet to the washer is connected to the non valve side of the Y-piece.
9. Now the reaming Y-piece side with valve is connected to the new hose.
If you now want a hot wash, you just have to turn the valve to open when the washer starts a cold fill and when enough water filled in the tub, you just close it again and still get cold rinses. The sytem van be optimized by turning of the cold faucet during the cold fill. And it can be used for purging the lines before the wash either. Just set it to drain and open the Y-piece valve...
frontloaderfan
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@ Martin
would unplugging the sensor work on a 2012 Frigidaire FL and if so, where is the sensor to unplug it? I would love to do this as well seeing how my machine starts the fill with hot water and then halfway through dumps ice cold water in the rest of the way....
would unplugging the sensor work on a 2012 Frigidaire FL and if so, where is the sensor to unplug it? I would love to do this as well seeing how my machine starts the fill with hot water and then halfway through dumps ice cold water in the rest of the way....
Ryan
I was getting either all HOT or all COLD washes...no WARM...the AUTO temp was not working....they came out and replaced the valve assembly, no auto temp sensor was there, but a blank spot for the plug to go......so that's where that got stuck....
so now I get whatever the water temp from the spigots give me, hot is hot, warm is mixed, and cold is tap cold.....I think like it better this way.....
I have to open the top and look, the sensor used to be part of the valve assembly, which has long ports going directly into the dispenser.....
I will get you some pics....
but all the tech did was unplug it, if it wasn't for the blank port, it would just be hanging there....this was Frigidaires solution to the problem, not fix it, but do away with it....
I was getting either all HOT or all COLD washes...no WARM...the AUTO temp was not working....they came out and replaced the valve assembly, no auto temp sensor was there, but a blank spot for the plug to go......so that's where that got stuck....
so now I get whatever the water temp from the spigots give me, hot is hot, warm is mixed, and cold is tap cold.....I think like it better this way.....
I have to open the top and look, the sensor used to be part of the valve assembly, which has long ports going directly into the dispenser.....
I will get you some pics....
but all the tech did was unplug it, if it wasn't for the blank port, it would just be hanging there....this was Frigidaires solution to the problem, not fix it, but do away with it....
frontloaderfan
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Ah, okay. I'm looking forward to it. This would normally be a good machine but they just built in some REALLY stupid stuff, like the impossibly low water level and the tepid "hot" wash temp.
If I get it all done right I'll have to post some before and after pics...
If I get it all done right I'll have to post some before and after pics...
rayjay
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Martin.
I was wondering if this can be done on my Samsung/
Ryan. I have to say I really love this Samsung. With the adjustment I get plenty of water for wash and more for the rinses. I feel the clothes come out much fresher.
NOW.....The temp issue..... lol
I was wondering if this can be done on my Samsung/
Ryan. I have to say I really love this Samsung. With the adjustment I get plenty of water for wash and more for the rinses. I feel the clothes come out much fresher.
NOW.....The temp issue..... lol
there has to be a sensor in the intake water line somewhere, just remove it from its slot, or unplug it, and see what results you get!...checking temps for all the temps...
pierreandreply4
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i would advise not using hot water for washing clothes as you can get the same cleaning power washing only in cold water
Pierre:
The Hot vs. Cold debate seems to be never ending on this forum. Its already happened at least 3 times this year alone. I for one am not ready to go into that argument again.
The member posing the question was not interested in our opinions about washing Hot vs. Cold, rather, they were asking how to get a truly Hot/Warm wash for the times they require it - not the "Eco Mandated" tepid water temperatures the machine currently provides. Perhaps he has some sturdy Cottons, Towels or Bed-Sheets he would like washed properly in the machine? Perhaps not. It doesn't matter, it is still a valid question. His experience with Cold water may vary to yours, so please do keep that in mind.
The Hot vs. Cold debate seems to be never ending on this forum. Its already happened at least 3 times this year alone. I for one am not ready to go into that argument again.
The member posing the question was not interested in our opinions about washing Hot vs. Cold, rather, they were asking how to get a truly Hot/Warm wash for the times they require it - not the "Eco Mandated" tepid water temperatures the machine currently provides. Perhaps he has some sturdy Cottons, Towels or Bed-Sheets he would like washed properly in the machine? Perhaps not. It doesn't matter, it is still a valid question. His experience with Cold water may vary to yours, so please do keep that in mind.
joe_in_philly
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Ray:
Perhaps different cycles on your machine result in higher wash temps. I know on Whirlpool machines, the Normal cycle, which is used for energy ratings, uses less water and lower temps than the whites or heavy duty cycle. Perhaps there are cycles on your machine that will heat the wash water to a higher temperature.
Joe
Perhaps different cycles on your machine result in higher wash temps. I know on Whirlpool machines, the Normal cycle, which is used for energy ratings, uses less water and lower temps than the whites or heavy duty cycle. Perhaps there are cycles on your machine that will heat the wash water to a higher temperature.
Joe
rayjay
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Hi Joe. I think if I select steam on Normal or Stain Away I may get it a little hotter. I have to try. I will try the Heavy Duty and see that happens.
Thanks for the advise. Howver, I am just happy that I get so much more water in the machine. I will have to video and post here.
Ray
Thanks for the advise. Howver, I am just happy that I get so much more water in the machine. I will have to video and post here.
Ray
rayjay
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Hot vs Cold Wash
I guess I am just form the old school. For light and dark colored clothes cold or warm works well. For towels and whites I like hot since I use chlorine bleach on the whites and bleachables. I have tested washing whites on cold with bleach.
The whites washed in HOT with bleach came out better. I think the hot water activates the bleach better. Who knows. Just my opinion.
If you have grease spots on whites and colored clothes, it seems warm or hot water realeases the stain better.
I guess I am just form the old school. For light and dark colored clothes cold or warm works well. For towels and whites I like hot since I use chlorine bleach on the whites and bleachables. I have tested washing whites on cold with bleach.
The whites washed in HOT with bleach came out better. I think the hot water activates the bleach better. Who knows. Just my opinion.
If you have grease spots on whites and colored clothes, it seems warm or hot water realeases the stain better.
rayjay
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AEG Washer
Laundress. I have the AEG Bella Super which I bought in 1991. Machine only used for 2 years. It is like new.
I will check size and post here.
Thanks
Ray
Laundress. I have the AEG Bella Super which I bought in 1991. Machine only used for 2 years. It is like new.
I will check size and post here.
Thanks
Ray
Try the Deep Steam.
DirectDriveDave
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Martin...
Would disconnecting the sensor on my bro's 2010 WP DD have any effect (if such a thing is even possible), or would that just make it not work at all? [this post was last edited: 10/8/2013-14:32]
Would disconnecting the sensor on my bro's 2010 WP DD have any effect (if such a thing is even possible), or would that just make it not work at all? [this post was last edited: 10/8/2013-14:32]
All I can say with these sensors is disconnect, or move them out of the way, and see what your individual machine would do...each one is programmed a little different on how it adjust the temps.....
I would never do this on my Neptunes, because its somewhat oldschool, it raises the cold water temp up...never dubs down the hot or warm wash....
on the Cabrio, with the sensor removed from its slot, gave either an all HOT or all COLD wash, it could not sense the water to give you a WARM wash without that sensor.....but as mentioned, HOT was only reduced 10 degrees from the water heater, WARM on the other hand was COOL at best.....and I swear the COLD selection was popping out ice cubes.......on this machine I select HOT/COLD for every load...
and you have to search and play with these machines, it is nerve wrecking, HOT on the HeavyDuty cycle is not the same temp as HOT for PermPress....
I literally praise every vintage machine, and Neptune I have, and hope to keep them as long as possible.....nothing like selecting HOT, and having the steam fog up the room as its filling....and getting an exact WARM wash as selected...
I don't get this craze for COLD washing, especially in HE and FL machines, I tried washing in cooler temps of a regular TL machine to save money, but getting a HE machine, that uses plenty of water was the perfect ticket to using less water than a regular TL, detergent, and the high speed spin.....every load now is set to WARM/WARM, because its cheaper to wash and rinse that way now.....
what are we talking here, at most 2 to 4 gallons of HOT water for a fill....I have 3 kids, which still feels like I have all 10 again when it comes to laundry, what some of you guys wash in a week, I do in most days, at these temps, my bills are NOT sky rocketing!....
I would never do this on my Neptunes, because its somewhat oldschool, it raises the cold water temp up...never dubs down the hot or warm wash....
on the Cabrio, with the sensor removed from its slot, gave either an all HOT or all COLD wash, it could not sense the water to give you a WARM wash without that sensor.....but as mentioned, HOT was only reduced 10 degrees from the water heater, WARM on the other hand was COOL at best.....and I swear the COLD selection was popping out ice cubes.......on this machine I select HOT/COLD for every load...
and you have to search and play with these machines, it is nerve wrecking, HOT on the HeavyDuty cycle is not the same temp as HOT for PermPress....
I literally praise every vintage machine, and Neptune I have, and hope to keep them as long as possible.....nothing like selecting HOT, and having the steam fog up the room as its filling....and getting an exact WARM wash as selected...
I don't get this craze for COLD washing, especially in HE and FL machines, I tried washing in cooler temps of a regular TL machine to save money, but getting a HE machine, that uses plenty of water was the perfect ticket to using less water than a regular TL, detergent, and the high speed spin.....every load now is set to WARM/WARM, because its cheaper to wash and rinse that way now.....
what are we talking here, at most 2 to 4 gallons of HOT water for a fill....I have 3 kids, which still feels like I have all 10 again when it comes to laundry, what some of you guys wash in a week, I do in most days, at these temps, my bills are NOT sky rocketing!....
rayjay
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Article on Cold Water Washing
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Here is an article I saw today on Yahoo. So much for Cold Water Washing. </span>
..Are You Washing Your Clothes Wrong? Probably.
..By Alexis Clark, Senior Features Editor
.Posts .By Alexis Clark, Senior Features Editor | Healthy Living – 20 hours ago
....Email 0Share
586Tweet0Print.....
Photo by Getty ImagesIt’s quite possible that your newly washed, April-fresh-smelling clothes aren’t as clean as you think. Recent research by the American Cleaning Institute (ACI) and other experts indicate that many of us are going about the practice of washing our clothes completely wrong.
For starters, if you’re washing clothes in cold water, using antibacterial detergent, or simply not washing certain items frequently enough, you may have to change some old habits.
More on Shine: 5 Simple Ways to Stay Cold and Flu Free
When it comes to water temperature, you probably need to go hotter. “If you’re putting clothes in cold water, you aren’t getting rid of bacteria,” Marcelle Pick, an ob-gyn and pediatric nurse practitioner at the Women to Women health care center based in Yarmouth, Maine, tells Yahoo Shine. “For babies, their clothes tend to be more contaminated, so you should definitely wash using hotter temperatures.”
Onesies and soft-stuffed animals may look adorable, but there’s a chance they contain bacteria derived from feces. “Once you become a parent, the amount of laundry you do skyrockets,” says Janet Ozzard, executive editor of the Baby Center. “And if you're taking care of a newborn, a lot of the stuff that comes out of babies is as germy as it gets — spit-up, pee, and poop.”
According to the ACI’s best practices, cold water can be used to presoak heavily soiled items. But for the actual wash cycle, hot water should be used, along with detergent and bleach, if necessary, to thoroughly clean, sanitize, and disinfect.
But many environmentalists, who advocate using cold water over hot water for machine-washing in order to save energy, have a different take on the study. Ed Osann, Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) senior water policy analyst, explained to Shine in an email that the most important part of the process is using an effective detergent, not using hot water. “Warm or even hot water is not hot enough to sterilize clothes exposed to fecal matter. If detergent is formulated for comparable effectiveness in cold water, then no extra benefit would be expected from warm water use." Osann suggested avoiding antibacterial detergents that actually promote the growth of resistant bacteria and making sure to thoroughly dry clothes.
More on Yahoo: Preventing the Spread of Antibiotic-Resistant 'Nightmare-Bacteria' and Superbugs
So what about adult clothes, towels and sheets? Are we cleaning those correctly? Probably not, or at least not often enough. The ACI breaks down the number of times your clothes should come into contact with soap and water. Underwear, socks, tanks, and T-shirts should be cleaned after each wear, along with tights and, believe it or not, jeggings. You can get three or four wears out of your jeans and khakis before they need a cleaning. Bed sheets should be washed at least every two weeks (but more often if you sweat a lot) and towels should be hung dry after each use and washed every three to four days.
Baby Center's Ozzard says that the best way to ensure your clothes stay hygienic is to keep the washing machine germ-free. Ozzard recommends first running an empty wash with hot water, bleach and soap to disinfect the machine.“Be sure to run an extra rinse cycle so the bleach is thoroughly flushed out.”
She also suggests starting off with whites and high-temperature items first, using hot water with detergent, then drying on high for 45 minutes to sanitize the dryer. “That way, when you do the rest of your laundry, the machines are fairly well sanitized.”
And you can still be kind to the environment while you adapt to your new wash cycle. Washing in warm water and line-drying in the sun is an eco-friendly way to thoroughly clean clothes and save energy, Ozzard says. Pick adds that as children get older, their clothes are less soiled and may not need to be washed at such high temperatures anymore.
The main takeaway: If you really want your tropical-fruit-and-cool-breeze-smelling clothes to be clean, consider warmer water, avoid antibacterial soap, do your whites first, and make sure your clothes get thoroughly dried. Post laundry nap optional.
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Here is an article I saw today on Yahoo. So much for Cold Water Washing. </span>
..Are You Washing Your Clothes Wrong? Probably.
..By Alexis Clark, Senior Features Editor
.Posts .By Alexis Clark, Senior Features Editor | Healthy Living – 20 hours ago
....Email 0Share
586Tweet0Print.....
Photo by Getty ImagesIt’s quite possible that your newly washed, April-fresh-smelling clothes aren’t as clean as you think. Recent research by the American Cleaning Institute (ACI) and other experts indicate that many of us are going about the practice of washing our clothes completely wrong.
For starters, if you’re washing clothes in cold water, using antibacterial detergent, or simply not washing certain items frequently enough, you may have to change some old habits.
More on Shine: 5 Simple Ways to Stay Cold and Flu Free
When it comes to water temperature, you probably need to go hotter. “If you’re putting clothes in cold water, you aren’t getting rid of bacteria,” Marcelle Pick, an ob-gyn and pediatric nurse practitioner at the Women to Women health care center based in Yarmouth, Maine, tells Yahoo Shine. “For babies, their clothes tend to be more contaminated, so you should definitely wash using hotter temperatures.”
Onesies and soft-stuffed animals may look adorable, but there’s a chance they contain bacteria derived from feces. “Once you become a parent, the amount of laundry you do skyrockets,” says Janet Ozzard, executive editor of the Baby Center. “And if you're taking care of a newborn, a lot of the stuff that comes out of babies is as germy as it gets — spit-up, pee, and poop.”
According to the ACI’s best practices, cold water can be used to presoak heavily soiled items. But for the actual wash cycle, hot water should be used, along with detergent and bleach, if necessary, to thoroughly clean, sanitize, and disinfect.
But many environmentalists, who advocate using cold water over hot water for machine-washing in order to save energy, have a different take on the study. Ed Osann, Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) senior water policy analyst, explained to Shine in an email that the most important part of the process is using an effective detergent, not using hot water. “Warm or even hot water is not hot enough to sterilize clothes exposed to fecal matter. If detergent is formulated for comparable effectiveness in cold water, then no extra benefit would be expected from warm water use." Osann suggested avoiding antibacterial detergents that actually promote the growth of resistant bacteria and making sure to thoroughly dry clothes.
More on Yahoo: Preventing the Spread of Antibiotic-Resistant 'Nightmare-Bacteria' and Superbugs
So what about adult clothes, towels and sheets? Are we cleaning those correctly? Probably not, or at least not often enough. The ACI breaks down the number of times your clothes should come into contact with soap and water. Underwear, socks, tanks, and T-shirts should be cleaned after each wear, along with tights and, believe it or not, jeggings. You can get three or four wears out of your jeans and khakis before they need a cleaning. Bed sheets should be washed at least every two weeks (but more often if you sweat a lot) and towels should be hung dry after each use and washed every three to four days.
Baby Center's Ozzard says that the best way to ensure your clothes stay hygienic is to keep the washing machine germ-free. Ozzard recommends first running an empty wash with hot water, bleach and soap to disinfect the machine.“Be sure to run an extra rinse cycle so the bleach is thoroughly flushed out.”
She also suggests starting off with whites and high-temperature items first, using hot water with detergent, then drying on high for 45 minutes to sanitize the dryer. “That way, when you do the rest of your laundry, the machines are fairly well sanitized.”
And you can still be kind to the environment while you adapt to your new wash cycle. Washing in warm water and line-drying in the sun is an eco-friendly way to thoroughly clean clothes and save energy, Ozzard says. Pick adds that as children get older, their clothes are less soiled and may not need to be washed at such high temperatures anymore.
The main takeaway: If you really want your tropical-fruit-and-cool-breeze-smelling clothes to be clean, consider warmer water, avoid antibacterial soap, do your whites first, and make sure your clothes get thoroughly dried. Post laundry nap optional.
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