How to make, Real, Professional, Home Made Detergent..

[mich]

Saw this on YT, and was a little surprised. It's well formulated though



I'd add, Sodium Perborate or Sodium Percabonate, and look into Enzymes, too.

 

[whirlcool]

I don't know about using TSP in a detergent. It would be very harsh on the clothing.
For some reason, I didn't understand a word the guy in the video was saying.

 

[stan]

Only

thing I understood was the TSP, the STPP, the CMC (dispersant) and the little bottle of scent that was added. Everything else was a mystery to me!
Wonder what that thick brown liquid was?

 

[mich]

I'm sure...

The Liquid, was sodium laruth sulfate, or, the magical chemical to give nice, good o'l froth, it's also a good surfactant.

The thing about the TSP Is, I could see it helping with stain removal, while the STPP is offering water softening, and suspending the dirt & soils from redepositing.

I've always been very, very curious to make a good quality washing powder. Maybe not Eco Friendly, but, something that preforms similarty to old skool detergent from the 70'S.

It'd sure be a fun weekend project...

 

[launderess]

For Better Or Worse

TSP was once used as a water softening agent and booster in laundry. Have seen it mentioned in several older manuals for housecleaning/professional laundry. Mind you they also recommended milder agents such as washing soda (better) or STPP (best) but sometimes you have to work with what was at hand.

Yes, TSP is very alkaline, more so than washing soda, however one simply used less of it. Old school laundry persons who had to soften water and or build the strength of *detergent* ( usually soap in those days), were intimately aware of the quality of local water. Thus they could develop a sense or formula that suited conditions on the ground.

Modern detergent makers OTHO have to develop products that suit a wide variation of water and soil conditions. In the past commercial and domestic detergents such as Tide and one assumes some other detergents were formulated to take into account local water hardness and distributed accordingly. In days gone by this included producing products both with and without phosphates based upon local laws.

 

[supersuds]

If I could recreate 1969 All, I'd be happy.

Wonder if a sample sent to a chemist would produce any useful results...

 

[perc-o-prince]

For some reason, I didn't understand a word the guy in t

He was speaking some foreign (to us) language with English words thrown in for words his language probably doesn't have equivalents for. Did I hear a goat at 0:37?

The website given doesn't seem to exist, but the country code in the phone number (97 with a 0 as the next number) points to Palestine/Egypt.

My guess is that the last addition (colored or coloured crystals) was additional scent or coloring.

Chuck

 

[mich]

@supersuds..

You wouldn't happen to have a box on hand, that mentions any of the ingredients do you?

I found a very old MSDS for All Powder with Phosphates, however, I know it's probably not anything close to the old BBB Forumla..

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.go...002001&query=all+detergent&searchas=TblBrands

I guess one could work on a formula that contains Borax, Sodium Perborate or Percarbonate (Bleach), and a very small amount of Bluing Powder..

I've also discovered, that one can also find Enzymes, in Meat Tenderizer from the Grocery store..

Sodium Sulfate (pretty sure it's just filler) could be replaced with Table Salt.. or Sodium Carbonate.

 

[rapunzel]

It may be carcinogenic and once you put clothes on that have been washed in this your skin will slough off.

Could be that it's a Sunni recipe to cleanse away the Shia.

 

[mich]

Also..

If one looks through patents, one can find a good bit of information about detergent formulations.

http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=inassignee:"Lever+Brothers+Co."

http://www.google.com/patents/

The P&G ones are deff. interesting to read, as well.

 

[rapunzel]

On a serious note

I think that this video was produced somewhere in India.

 

[supersuds]

1996 All MSDS

I would be very surprised if they were still putting phosphates in All at that late date. Every box I saw from the early Eighties on said No Phosphates, and in this area, we got the phosphate version of detergents that were still being made (all of the P&G brands, as well as Fab, Surf, and the short-lived Clorox detergent).

Of course, most of the basic ingredients are standard, anyway. Things like the MSDS don't give all the proprietary tweaks.

As for a list of the old All with BB&B ingredients, the boxes don't say anything except that it has bleach, borax, brighteners and 8.7% phosphorus. That's why I was thinking about a chemical analysis, to get a detailed breakdown...just a daydream, though.

 

[launderess]

Have That Same Box (Well maybe mine is *bigger*

*LOL*

And can tell you there isn't any "bleach" other than what Borax provides. Am working on the theory that none of the usual warnings about oxygen bleach and color loss (say if product came into contact with textiles directly) are listed. Also remember finding *something* about this Monsanto detergent.

If you want a good late night read, there is this:

http://www.leagle.com/decision/19631103216FSupp887_1938

 

[arbilab]

Can tell you this without reading any legalese, Monsanto is the satan of corporations. Unless you already know, you can't imagine the depth of their satanity. That's now. When they invented All, maybe not so much.

Today, Monsanto is in EVERYthing you eat, whether you--or the farmers who grow it--like it or not. Why doesn't media tell us these things? Because Monsanto will do to them what they do to farmers whose fields become infected with M's GMOs. Sue.

Monsanto will sue you to DEATH. Literally. Again, unless you already know, you have no idea. It's all documented, but don't go researching it unless you are prepared to get really pissed off about something over which you have zero control.

Even Congress has no control. To the contrary, Monsanto owns Congress. You thought it was only Archer Daniels Midland and high fructose corn syrup? If only!

 

[chris74]

TSP

What is that? For me, just an abbrevation for "teaspoon" by now... And why using Borax and sodium perborate at the same time? AFAIK boron is unwanted in the wastewater as it enhances algae growth...

 

[mich]

Sodium Perborate

Is a form of Oxygen..

Borax on the other hand, slowly breaks down into another form of oxygen bleach.

TSP, is Trisodium Phosphate.

 

[mich]

Sodium Perborate

is a form of Oxygen *Bleach..

 

[mich]

Just found this... about Monsanto.

In 1946, it developed "All" laundry detergent and began to market it; they sold the product line to Lever Brothers in 1957.[22] In 1947, one of its factories was destroyed in the Texas City Disaster.[23] Monsanto acquired American Viscose from England's Courtauld family in 1949. In 1954 Monsanto partnered with German chemical giant Bayer to form Mobay and market polyurethanes in the United States.

 

[chris74]

Thanks, but...

...as you wrote that Borax and sodium perborate are both oxygene demerging chemicals... Aren't they both just the same substance? I do use boron as a nutritive supplement, by the way...