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There's a difference..

The Sodium Percarbonate has much more bleaching power vs just plain Borax..

This little piece, from another site, may be worth reading.

Washing Soda�Sodium Carbonate (Na2CO3) (Na = Sodium, water softening)

Sodium softens water by binding with Calcium and Magnesium forming solid, which can be rinsed off the fabric. �However, if not rinsed thoroughly, the minerals can redeposit onto the fabric and cause problems. �

Washing soda's PH is 11, very caustic (neutral PH is 7). Need to wear gloves to handle. �If not rinsed well, may cause skin irritation on baby's skin. �It doesn't dissolve in water as fast as baking soda, and its molecule is sharp, and can rub and damage thin fabrics. �Theoretically baking soda is sharp too, but since it dissolves in water so easily, it rarely damages fabric. �

Two things about washing soda that are great. �One, it has 2 sodium in its chemical formation, very effective in softening water. Two, it's very caustic (ph 11) so it's great in degreasing and removing stain.

Baking Soda�Sodium Bicarbonate (NaHCO3) �(notice: only half of Sodium as Washing Soda)

Baking Soda's PH is slightly base, not as alkaline as washing soda, so it doesn't cause skin irritation and you don't need gloves to handle them. It also dissolves faster in water than washing soda. �On the same token, since it's not as alkaline as Washing Soda, its stain removing power is not as effective. Also, since it only has one sodium in its chemical formation, its water softening power is half of washing soda's. �

Again, if it doesn't dissolve in water completely (don't see how that can be, unless you use way too much), it can rub and damage fabric. If you use baking soda in kitchen to scrub clean pots and stove top (super effective), you'll know exactly what I mean.�I think that's why BG discourages use of baking soda, although they should be more concerned about washing soda.

Borax�Sodium Borate (Na2B4O7·10H2O)

Contrarary to popular belief, borax doesn't soften water nearly as effectively as washing soda or even baking soda. �Look at the chemical formation. �Sodium is a tiny part of its formation. � When Borate (=Borax) is combined with a specific kind of acid, it softens water, but not on its own. Here's my source.�

Borax has great cleaning power though. That's why homemade detergent recipe always has this and washing soda. �Its PH is 9.5, pretty base and can remove stains. �It also breaks down into Hydrogen Peroxide (main ingredient in OxiClean), which behaves like, well, OxiClean! See Oxiclean for more details.

Oxiclean active ingredients: Something similar to Washing Soda + Hydrogen Peroxide H2O2

It's pretty much like Washing Soda + Hydrogen Peroxide. That's why homemade laundry detergent recipes always call for Washing Soda + Borax (which turns some water molecules to Hydrogen Peroxide). When Hydrogen Peroxide meets water, it breaks down into Oxygen and Water, forming little bubbles like soda. That's how it bleaches and cleans.

Vinegar

Vinegar use is controversial in the diaper washing world. �I read tons of links and my personal unscientific conclusion is, it depends on your water. Vinegar MAY react with some minerals in YOUR hard water. �So just give it a try in the final rinse cycle. �Part of the purpose is to neutralize the PH in water, especially when you have hard water and use alkaline detergents such as washing/baking soda and borax (and ALL of commercial power laundry detergents have some of them as the main ingredient, i'll explain more later). If you're not convinced you've not thoroughly rinsed off washing soda or borax, and worry that it'll irritate your baby's skin when wet, you can try white vinegar to neutralize these base molecules.

It's trial and error. �If you use vinegar and it causes funny things, stop. �If you don't use vinegar and you have problems, try it. �One thing I know for sure, if you add too much, it'll damage fabric (PUL is very fragile) and elastics. �That's just common sense though. �We all know vinegar dissolves things because it's acid.

Calgon (Ingredients? too long, check here)

Calgon is a non-precipitating (doesn't form solids) water conditioner and binds the minerals into a solution that does not redeposit on clothing or the inside of the washer. It must be added to both the wash water and the rinse water for highest effectiveness. It is more gentle to clothing and skin. It is also more expensive to use. I think it's the best water softening solution next to installing a water softener for your house. You don't need to worry about not washing your baking/soda clean, and nobody has claimed that Calgon damages their diaper.

What's the catch, you ask. Well, it's really really hard to find. I have to order online.
 
Thanks for the link, Launderess!

Not only does it give all the relevant dates for All's development, it shows that Lever Brothers substantially improved the original formula inherited from Monsanto. (Interesting, too, that the impetus for its development came from Westinghouse, not Bendix, the other prominent maker of front loading machines.)

P&G's dominance of the detergent market in the Fifties and Sixties was impressive. Over 55%, with Lever, Colgate and minor players dividing the rest. Surf couldn't get more than 3% of the market!

The implication was that Dash was a very effective competitor for All; Ad, somewhat less so; Vim a complete flop.
 
One thing..

That really does make me think, that All may have had Sodium Perborate in the formula, is the fact, that I've located patents from Lever Brothers for Detergent Compositions containing them.

To be Fair, I myself don't have any of it on hand, nor, do I claim it contains it, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did.

One Has to Remember, Company's really aren't required to list everything in there products. Some just release enough information, on boxes, or list only the "harmful" ingredients on Material Safety Data Sheets.

And if I recall correctly, a segment I watched, from the 60's? 70's? said that none of the detergent manufacturers listed there actual phosphrous or phosphate content, they had to have it individually tested to figure out the contents.

The only time they'd actually have to release such information, is if a Doctor Office, or Physician contacted them.
 
Intense memory of when All "changed over," and how welcome it was: more fragrant, less harsh, less chemical-like and commercial--or so it seemed. Widely used in our extended family because of the preponderance of Frigidaires whose over-sudsing propensity with Tide was legendary.

Also remember Dash giving All a ride for its money. Though All may have won, once I went Dash, I never looked back, and still miss it so much.

Ah....Soaps--love 'em or disdain 'em. Thanks.
 
Recipe from Youtube

Please contact Bro. Ibrahim 0 988 50 45 749 for the Chemical material. (Taj Chemical, Opp: Fire Office, Hotel Dolphin Road, Visakhapatnam)

(TOTAL COST OF THESE CHEMICALS WOULD BE Rs. 260/- ONLY)

Making of 5.5 kg Detergent Powder (very equal to Surf Ariel):
(you must sift all the materials in a sieve before mixing them)
1. Take 2 1/2 kg Washing Soda.
2. Mix 1/2 kg Slurry in the Washing Soda
3. Add 200 ml SLS (Sodium Lauryl Sulfate ) liquid to the mixture and mix it well.

Mix all these below material one by one in the above mixture
4. 1/2 kg TSP (Trisodium Phosphate)
5. 1/2 kg STPP (Sodium Tripolyphosphate)
6, 100 gr CMC (Critical micelle concentration)
7.100 gr Tinopal
8. 1 kg G-Salt
9. 50 ml Thousand Flowers Scent
10. 10 gr. Detergent granules

Congratulations ! You could produce 5.5 kg Super Detergent Powder very equal to Surf Ariel.
 
Maybe the slurry is used because of its ammonia content.
If so I wonder how stable it could be in a dry powder. Ammonia evaporates, doesn`t it ?
But at least there`s a "Thousand Flower Scent" in the mix, so it must be very equal to Surf or Ariel
 
@supersuds

You are very welcome. Glad you enjoyed the read.

Once P&G *perfected* Tide by increasing it's froth making ability (it was the only way housewives would touch the stuff), it became the market leader and has remained so to this day. Tide not only displaced P&G's dominant soap for laundry day (Oxydol or Chipso, cannot remember) but it knocked everyone else off the shelf for the most part as well.

Just went and moved stuff about to take a peek at my huge box of All detergent. It clearly is marked as being made by Lever Bros (sorry for incorrect information above) and is a "Controlled Suds Detergent". You know this stuff is loaded with phosphates because like many detergents of the era it gives details if you know where to look. Directions on box state clearly that "packaged water softeners" aren't required. In hard water conditions one is directed to simply use more product. Ad copy on box also goes on about how All removes dulling grey film from washing.

Apparently P&G introduced Salvo tablets as their entry into the "low suds" detergent market. Also there were various store brands such as ShopRite that had low suds offerings as well. One wonders who made such products for them; Lever Bros?

Personally I LOVE this stuff. With a bit of *unscented* oxygen bleach/enzyme booster such as (now discontinued) Spray n Wash Pink tabs, or more recently Tide "Vivid" pods it works a treat in the Miele.

 
Store brand offerings

Launderess, US v. Lever Brothers at your earlier link states that Monsanto continued (as of 1963) to make low suds detergent for Climalene, Swift & Co., and Armour, so it's very possible they were making store brands, as well. That case is just a fount of information.

Yep, the "use no packaged water softener" line is a dead giveaway about phosphates!

I have some Monsanto All that I'll try to photograph tonight.
 
Persil Power with accelerator

And I agree with the results of The Independent's 1994 test. I got ahold of some "Omo Power" from Holland back then, and saw no evidence that it would fray or degrade anything...
 

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