How well does Denim handle in your Pulsators..full load
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I did not mean to turn this thread into another Kenmore vs Frigidaire test. I am just generally speaking of how well the pulsator does with a what is considered a pretty tough task.
Besides my vote is for the surgilator if you guys are serious
Besides my vote is for the surgilator if you guys are serious
mickeyd
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couldn't agree more. Also agree 5 pair, not an overlaod but a fair challenge.
My bet, although the offer seems not to be among the options:
THE PULSAMATIC WILL PUT ALL OTHER COMERS TO SHAME
couldn't agree more. Also agree 5 pair, not an overlaod but a fair challenge.
My bet, although the offer seems not to be among the options:
THE PULSAMATIC WILL PUT ALL OTHER COMERS TO SHAME
Hi Rick, the picture you show is about the same water level that my '57 Kenmore fills up to, although the suds make it appear slighly higher than it is.
I wont have time to film this until sometime next week, so no rush in making any agitator decisions today.
As for Frigidaire agitators, the only agitator IMHO that would not be able to turn over jeans very well is the 1965-1969 Deep Action Agitator. The 1/18 Agitator does turn over well, but the water level has to be just above the last cone for it to work properly.
I wont have time to film this until sometime next week, so no rush in making any agitator decisions today.
As for Frigidaire agitators, the only agitator IMHO that would not be able to turn over jeans very well is the 1965-1969 Deep Action Agitator. The 1/18 Agitator does turn over well, but the water level has to be just above the last cone for it to work properly.
Hi Robert, So they must have raised the water level in 1957 then.
Perhaps the 56's were a 8lb. and 57 was changed to a 10lb. I just finished a 56 Kenmore, and had to replace the pressure switch in that machine also. It would fill only to a few inches from the tub ring, just like the 56 WP did. WP/KM kept the basket the same size and added more water to "up" the load size for years. Didn't it start with 8lbs. to 10lbs. to 12lbs. and finally 14lbs? I used a 14lb. switch on both of mine, and the 61 Whirlpool that Gregm now has.
As I am sure you know, the pressure switch can only be adjusted so far. To raise the level any futher requires replacement of the switch with a higher capacity.
Take your time with your test, it will give us something to look forward to now that many of us are sort of "housebound" due to the weather change to Fall.
I do look forward to seeing your Pink Lady in action! I don't recall ever seeing a clip of that one.
Perhaps the 56's were a 8lb. and 57 was changed to a 10lb. I just finished a 56 Kenmore, and had to replace the pressure switch in that machine also. It would fill only to a few inches from the tub ring, just like the 56 WP did. WP/KM kept the basket the same size and added more water to "up" the load size for years. Didn't it start with 8lbs. to 10lbs. to 12lbs. and finally 14lbs? I used a 14lb. switch on both of mine, and the 61 Whirlpool that Gregm now has.
As I am sure you know, the pressure switch can only be adjusted so far. To raise the level any futher requires replacement of the switch with a higher capacity.
Take your time with your test, it will give us something to look forward to now that many of us are sort of "housebound" due to the weather change to Fall.
I do look forward to seeing your Pink Lady in action! I don't recall ever seeing a clip of that one.
jasonl
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OK, Kenmore people. we have the Pregnant RS, Super Surgilator, str8 vane, and rotoflex. I vote out the str8 vane and Rotoflex because they're low end agitators and they just don't seem like they'd have as much pull as the RS or Surgilator.
My 2c, as much as I love the Rotoswirl, I'll bet on the Super Surgilator for sheer power. What do y'all say? Why not try them both for a real comparison?
Robert, 5 jeans it is! Call me weird but that doesn't see very even for 4-section loading but what the hell. Let's see what that 3-ring can do.
OK, Kenmore people. we have the Pregnant RS, Super Surgilator, str8 vane, and rotoflex. I vote out the str8 vane and Rotoflex because they're low end agitators and they just don't seem like they'd have as much pull as the RS or Surgilator.
My 2c, as much as I love the Rotoswirl, I'll bet on the Super Surgilator for sheer power. What do y'all say? Why not try them both for a real comparison?
Robert, 5 jeans it is! Call me weird but that doesn't see very even for 4-section loading but what the hell. Let's see what that 3-ring can do.
jasonl
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Surgilator - 2 (me and Rick)
Rotoswirl - 0
Rotoswirl - 0
Thank you Jason.
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Growing up on a working farm, mud, dirt and manure covered Wranglers were the uniform. The Kenmores had an adge on dirt and sand removal because of the perforated tub. The Fridaire did a better job of rinsing because of the overflow drain, but, always left a ring of dirt at the bottom of the tub against the clothes. No one I knew ever loaded more than 4 pair of wranglers in a washer at a time. Yhey didn't roll over, the hammering of the agitator wore the color off the pants and it was hard on the washer. In the old days, most house wives used hot water which loosened up the fibers so they rolled and bunched more easily. The Maytag does a suberb job of jean washing because of the long slow stroke of Helical Drive and lower vanes on the Gyrator leaving more tub room above it. The Jet cone agitator eats up a ton of tub real estate and never had the turnover capability of the Pulsator. I like watching a preggers RotoSwirl more than the Surgilator and it was my experience it moved the jeans around more than the Surgilator. General Electric with a spiral ramp Activator is no slouch at making the cowboys happy, turning over the jeans.
Kelly
Growing up on a working farm, mud, dirt and manure covered Wranglers were the uniform. The Kenmores had an adge on dirt and sand removal because of the perforated tub. The Fridaire did a better job of rinsing because of the overflow drain, but, always left a ring of dirt at the bottom of the tub against the clothes. No one I knew ever loaded more than 4 pair of wranglers in a washer at a time. Yhey didn't roll over, the hammering of the agitator wore the color off the pants and it was hard on the washer. In the old days, most house wives used hot water which loosened up the fibers so they rolled and bunched more easily. The Maytag does a suberb job of jean washing because of the long slow stroke of Helical Drive and lower vanes on the Gyrator leaving more tub room above it. The Jet cone agitator eats up a ton of tub real estate and never had the turnover capability of the Pulsator. I like watching a preggers RotoSwirl more than the Surgilator and it was my experience it moved the jeans around more than the Surgilator. General Electric with a spiral ramp Activator is no slouch at making the cowboys happy, turning over the jeans.
Kelly
frontaloadotmy
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Alright Team Kenmore
to be fair, you have to use the roto-swirl ag, style 57-62
for this to be scientifically accurate. You may only use a
surgilator in a Whirlpool machine!!!!
to be fair, you have to use the roto-swirl ag, style 57-62
for this to be scientifically accurate. You may only use a
surgilator in a Whirlpool machine!!!!
Hi Rick, that's a good question, I did notice the water level was slightly lower in the my '52 Whirlpool but I always attributed that to the float system as opposed to a pressure switch. I'm not sure about what they were thinking, I do know that the WP/KN capacity claims went up, but the basket size stayed the same.
Call me weird but that doesn't see very even for 4-section loading but what the hell
Good point Jason, but you see when I have five pair of jeans or six sweatshirts or seven towels I simply load them in 5, 6 or 7 sections respectfully. This is something I figured out early on in my Frigidaire loading.
Looks like Team Kenmore is leaning towards the bakelite Surgilator, ouch that's some stiff competition for the Team Frigidaire's 8lb tub and 3-Ring Agitator.
Call me weird but that doesn't see very even for 4-section loading but what the hell
Good point Jason, but you see when I have five pair of jeans or six sweatshirts or seven towels I simply load them in 5, 6 or 7 sections respectfully. This is something I figured out early on in my Frigidaire loading.
Looks like Team Kenmore is leaning towards the bakelite Surgilator, ouch that's some stiff competition for the Team Frigidaire's 8lb tub and 3-Ring Agitator.
Fiddlesticks!
7 Pair of Jeans
2 Pair of Sweatpants
Tub not even loaded to maximum capacity, everything turning over beautifully and I get an Energy Star for my washload!
7 Pair of Jeans
2 Pair of Sweatpants
Tub not even loaded to maximum capacity, everything turning over beautifully and I get an Energy Star for my washload!
Seriously though..
I would vote for the Surgilator as well - probably the best of the WP/KM Lintmaker agitators!
It would be fun to strain the drain water from the Kenmore and the Frigidaire, just to show the difference. It's stunning. (don't forget to add the lint from the Kenmo's filter...)
I would vote for the Surgilator as well - probably the best of the WP/KM Lintmaker agitators!
It would be fun to strain the drain water from the Kenmore and the Frigidaire, just to show the difference. It's stunning. (don't forget to add the lint from the Kenmo's filter...)
In fairness, however....shouldn't the machines be used with native agitators?
Well it really doesn't make a difference because the wash basket and drive stroke were exactly the same throughout the Whirlpool/Kenmore standard capacity design, so I think it would be perfectly fair to pick the Surgilator.
Well it really doesn't make a difference because the wash basket and drive stroke were exactly the same throughout the Whirlpool/Kenmore standard capacity design, so I think it would be perfectly fair to pick the Surgilator.
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Well Lets Just Be Happy
that we NEED a differant machine for each load washed. Justifies having so many machines! Scott AKA Quiltnbear
that we NEED a differant machine for each load washed. Justifies having so many machines! Scott AKA Quiltnbear
If the jeans are new and not Pre-Washed (stiff as hell) it will depend on how many pair are in the Unimatic---(don't try it if the pulsator is old rubber--it might split!) Three pair will work nicely in the Unimatic, and I think it would win.
Go to four pair of stiff ones, though, and I'm thinking a 'Kenmo or Whirly might do better----but only with a Surgilator. (The straight-vane will drag them through the water mercilessly but may not roll them over well).
Five or more stiff ones and even the Surgilator will have reduced roll-over----but a Unimatic would be paralyzed!
-My two shekels.
Go to four pair of stiff ones, though, and I'm thinking a 'Kenmo or Whirly might do better----but only with a Surgilator. (The straight-vane will drag them through the water mercilessly but may not roll them over well).
Five or more stiff ones and even the Surgilator will have reduced roll-over----but a Unimatic would be paralyzed!
-My two shekels.
I'm Ready to start Filming
I'm ready to start filming so here is the "official" test. I will use the same 5 pairs of jeans and I will do the Frigidaire first, then I will spin them out at 1140rpm and put them into the Kenmore. This way we have the EXACT same wash load, albeit the Kenmore load will be wet to begin with, but this wont make any difference in turn over a few minutes into the wash.
I will fill each machine with warm water and let it agitate for 4 minutes, then at the 4 minute mark I will start filming, by that time the jeans should have settled into their respective wash flow. Then I will add two dry white socks to each machine so we can how quickly the socks get sucked under.
Gentlemen, start you engines.
I'm ready to start filming so here is the "official" test. I will use the same 5 pairs of jeans and I will do the Frigidaire first, then I will spin them out at 1140rpm and put them into the Kenmore. This way we have the EXACT same wash load, albeit the Kenmore load will be wet to begin with, but this wont make any difference in turn over a few minutes into the wash.
I will fill each machine with warm water and let it agitate for 4 minutes, then at the 4 minute mark I will start filming, by that time the jeans should have settled into their respective wash flow. Then I will add two dry white socks to each machine so we can how quickly the socks get sucked under.
Gentlemen, start you engines.
brettsomers
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so, uh, are the results going to be revealed tonight? this will be must-see, since i've never seen a surgilator in action!
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