How Will You Be Keeping Warm This Winter...........
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toggleswitch2
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Fart BEFORE you come to bed.
I think gas is no longer allowed in bedrooms in NYC.
uhm, why do we see the pilot light? Is this thing vented?
I think gas is no longer allowed in bedrooms in NYC.
uhm, why do we see the pilot light? Is this thing vented?
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for the bedroom one, I mean........
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LOL Again we are possting simultaneously.
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~What I call cold weather is a joke compared to the northeastern states. If it drops below 37 degrees I'm staying in front of the fireplace!
Was in Tampa Bay area of Florida (way south for our international friends) it was 40*F (4.5*C) and there was not a soul anywhere.
Where IS everyone? They won't come out at that temp! With so much electric heat they also fear blackouts during *LOL* "extreme" cold snaps.
When one gets used to intense heat in tropical and sub-tropical climnates, the blood thins. The locals were absolutely in furs and boots and scarves. LOL I had my jacket open and was dying of heat...........
Was in Tampa Bay area of Florida (way south for our international friends) it was 40*F (4.5*C) and there was not a soul anywhere.
Where IS everyone? They won't come out at that temp! With so much electric heat they also fear blackouts during *LOL* "extreme" cold snaps.
When one gets used to intense heat in tropical and sub-tropical climnates, the blood thins. The locals were absolutely in furs and boots and scarves. LOL I had my jacket open and was dying of heat...........
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Strange to be able to see it from inside, in a vented heater.
Perhaps combustion air is drawn from the room?
Is that propane (LP Bottled gas) or methane (natural gas)?
Here propane may use either theaded black(iron) pipe [galbanized in moit places] or flared-fitting copper tubing.
Here, Natural gas doesn't normally/traditionally/usually use flared-fitting copper tubbing.
We are, however, seeing a trend to move away from rigid steel (threaded-end) piping and now we see piping that includes the corrugated flexible type; even the mains.
Perhaps combustion air is drawn from the room?
Is that propane (LP Bottled gas) or methane (natural gas)?
Here propane may use either theaded black(iron) pipe [galbanized in moit places] or flared-fitting copper tubing.
Here, Natural gas doesn't normally/traditionally/usually use flared-fitting copper tubbing.
We are, however, seeing a trend to move away from rigid steel (threaded-end) piping and now we see piping that includes the corrugated flexible type; even the mains.
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I think many of us here in my city/area can tolerate down to (64*F) 17.5*C. Below that I think many can't sleep well.
In my area just about everyone lowers the teperatures at night to sleep.
In my area just about everyone lowers the teperatures at night to sleep.
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[galbanized in moit places]
galvanized in moist places.
galvanized in moist places.
We don't have a sub-tropical climate here in Amsterdam, but 4C is certainly not regarded as "hot". One needs gloves under 5C.
Toggles, are you descending from UK origin? One week ago I was in Liverpool and Chester and it was around 15-20C. I had only a jacket and fleece scarf and I was completely chilled to the bone. I thought that it was the sign of an oncoming illness as many locals were wearing T-shirts and shorts and seemed to be very comfortable, but when I got home I saw that I was dressed just like everyone else in Amsterdam so my conclusion is that Britons must have a different temperature regulating mechanism in their bodies.
Toggles, are you descending from UK origin? One week ago I was in Liverpool and Chester and it was around 15-20C. I had only a jacket and fleece scarf and I was completely chilled to the bone. I thought that it was the sign of an oncoming illness as many locals were wearing T-shirts and shorts and seemed to be very comfortable, but when I got home I saw that I was dressed just like everyone else in Amsterdam so my conclusion is that Britons must have a different temperature regulating mechanism in their bodies.
Wall-vented heaters always draw fresh air from outside. You can't have an open system with wall-venting: there would be too much influence of the wind pressure.
We have natural gas here. Steel piping with threaded fittings is only used for larger diameter supplies, typically a steel pipe enters the house and continues till the gas meter. After the gas meter most tubes are copper. Gas pipes in streets under the pavement are usually plastic. Very old pipes are cast iron.
I always turn up the heat when I am going to bed
We have natural gas here. Steel piping with threaded fittings is only used for larger diameter supplies, typically a steel pipe enters the house and continues till the gas meter. After the gas meter most tubes are copper. Gas pipes in streets under the pavement are usually plastic. Very old pipes are cast iron.
I always turn up the heat when I am going to bed
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LOL.
I was in the same town in Florida (hot climate)I mentioned above. Most locals were in fur coats, heavy sweaters, boots scarves etc.
One waitress was in shorts and a sleveless top/blouse.
There were space-heaters working to supplement the main heating system everyhwere in the resaturant.
Excuse me Miss, but how can you be in shorts when the locals are in furs? She laughed. "I'm from Michigan (north; a state near Canada) and 65*F (18*C)is as hot as it gets there. This is a heat-wave for me.
We has such a good laugh. It's all what you get used to and come to believe is "normal."
I was in the same town in Florida (hot climate)I mentioned above. Most locals were in fur coats, heavy sweaters, boots scarves etc.
One waitress was in shorts and a sleveless top/blouse.
There were space-heaters working to supplement the main heating system everyhwere in the resaturant.
Excuse me Miss, but how can you be in shorts when the locals are in furs? She laughed. "I'm from Michigan (north; a state near Canada) and 65*F (18*C)is as hot as it gets there. This is a heat-wave for me.
We has such a good laugh. It's all what you get used to and come to believe is "normal."
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Don't tolerate cold weather. And our (my) definition of cold is anything under 32F. I know that's something funny to people in the northeastern states but then again y'all wouldn't do well with our hot as hell humid summers. The humidity is so high it's hard to line dry clothes in July and August. Walking outside feels like a convection oven.
I'm thinking about pulling the siding off my house next year to insulate the walls. I have plaster walls inside but god is it ever drafty! Rebuilding the windows has helped but I made sure to buy some wool clothing for winter as I continue work on the place.
Don't tolerate cold weather. And our (my) definition of cold is anything under 32F. I know that's something funny to people in the northeastern states but then again y'all wouldn't do well with our hot as hell humid summers. The humidity is so high it's hard to line dry clothes in July and August. Walking outside feels like a convection oven.
I'm thinking about pulling the siding off my house next year to insulate the walls. I have plaster walls inside but god is it ever drafty! Rebuilding the windows has helped but I made sure to buy some wool clothing for winter as I continue work on the place.
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Fire up the ice-maker, and get me rubber pants!
~I know that's something funny to people in the northeastern states but then again y'all wouldn't do well with our hot as hell humid summers.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. A friend of my father's (90+ y.o. lady) suggested he lower his thermostat (i.e. turn UP the cooling) for two days for me to get adjusted to the heat when I went to see him in Florida in December.
I could not understand why the locals kept sayin "nice day, eh?" on dready cooler cloudy days. Apparently any relief from the heat is good there!
~I know that's something funny to people in the northeastern states but then again y'all wouldn't do well with our hot as hell humid summers.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. A friend of my father's (90+ y.o. lady) suggested he lower his thermostat (i.e. turn UP the cooling) for two days for me to get adjusted to the heat when I went to see him in Florida in December.
I could not understand why the locals kept sayin "nice day, eh?" on dready cooler cloudy days. Apparently any relief from the heat is good there!
We have FHW natural gas 4 zones. Haven't turned it on yet. Trying for Nov 1, but I have to go out to CA next week so may turn it on so wife won't freeze. We have been using a couple of small pelonis disc safety electric heaters. One in the kitchen and one down in my office. We have a fan/vent/heater combo in the master bath. I put a thermostat on it when I installed it so its not on constantly. We use that in the mornings for shower and in the evening I turn it on for about 10 minutes before bed and put the floor fan on blowing in the bathroom. Heats the bedroom up a few degrees. We will try and keep the house down to 68 when home and down to 62 while gone. I think I will be using the hot tub more also to warm me up to the bones.
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My brother once lived in an apartment in Chicago that had steam heat. I can always tell when a place is heated with steam as the apartments always feel terribly hot (like an oven) in the winter time. We went to a party and came home to my brothers place. We were both definitely feeling no pain. The guest room in his apartment felt like it was 90F (40C) in there. So we opened the bedroom window as we always feel better with fresh air in the bedroom after consuming alcohol. It was about 0F outside at the time.
Well sometime during the night the heat shut off. The entire apartment had cooled down to about 50F! Needless to say my brother and his wife were not in a good mood that day...
Since I moved to Texas I am having a harder time with the extreme cold up north. I am in MSP several times a week. I always get severe windburn if I have to go outside while there.
As for Floridians, I noticed that people there don't cool their houses like we do in Texas. Here we like to keep them as cold as possible, in Florida most of the homes I have been to just keep their thermostats set just a few degrees below the outside temperature.
Well sometime during the night the heat shut off. The entire apartment had cooled down to about 50F! Needless to say my brother and his wife were not in a good mood that day...
Since I moved to Texas I am having a harder time with the extreme cold up north. I am in MSP several times a week. I always get severe windburn if I have to go outside while there.
As for Floridians, I noticed that people there don't cool their houses like we do in Texas. Here we like to keep them as cold as possible, in Florida most of the homes I have been to just keep their thermostats set just a few degrees below the outside temperature.
The Joys of living in a sub tropical climate.
We get by with 1 reverse cycle split system AC unit, it runs for 1 hour in the morning during winter (May-August) at 19degC but only on mornings when the outside temp is under 10degC. That usually works out to about 3 or 4 days a week over the 3 month winter period
At Night for the same period it runs for 2-3 hours at the same temp, but we switch off when we go to bed. Luckily our house is thermally efficient and during winter the sun comes in the large front windows, heating the house during the day, and in summer it passes straight overhead.
Our electric Bill usually runs to around $280 - $300 AUD per quarter regardless of whether it is summer or winter.
We get by with 1 reverse cycle split system AC unit, it runs for 1 hour in the morning during winter (May-August) at 19degC but only on mornings when the outside temp is under 10degC. That usually works out to about 3 or 4 days a week over the 3 month winter period
At Night for the same period it runs for 2-3 hours at the same temp, but we switch off when we go to bed. Luckily our house is thermally efficient and during winter the sun comes in the large front windows, heating the house during the day, and in summer it passes straight overhead.
Our electric Bill usually runs to around $280 - $300 AUD per quarter regardless of whether it is summer or winter.
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Methinks the issue is the control system, not the type of fuel consumed or the distribution system.
With steam heat, the duration of the cycles must be sufficient such that the furthest radiators heat-up.
HeaTimer Corp. is THE name in controls in this area. As such a regular thermostat in an apartment is not really the best syystem to use unless it is the furthest from the boiler. The heat anticipator (in the thermostat) will shrot-cycle the boiler and it may take a very long time to make a sufficient heat of steam and/or not all radiators will heat-up.
Normally a HeaTimer will have two sensors.
Outdoor temp-day : Turns on heat when the outdoor temp is 55*F or below
Outdoor temp night: Provides heat when the outdoor temp is below 40*F
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With steam heat, the duration of the cycles must be sufficient such that the furthest radiators heat-up.
HeaTimer Corp. is THE name in controls in this area. As such a regular thermostat in an apartment is not really the best syystem to use unless it is the furthest from the boiler. The heat anticipator (in the thermostat) will shrot-cycle the boiler and it may take a very long time to make a sufficient heat of steam and/or not all radiators will heat-up.
Normally a HeaTimer will have two sensors.
Outdoor temp-day : Turns on heat when the outdoor temp is 55*F or below
Outdoor temp night: Provides heat when the outdoor temp is below 40*F
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