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i should have read your original post more carefully, Robert. so scrap what I said before. <br
so... lets all just stop pissing and moaning to Robert every time we see something we don't like. <br
and lets stop posting things that have nothing to do with what we are all here for <br
still think you ought to just ignore the whiners. :-)
 
Might as well chime in--

When I start threads, I make an effort to come up with topics that are of more general interest. I don't always succeed, however, but I do try.

Likewise, when I reply in a thread, or ask a question, I try to keep it on topic (as much as possible).

I try to treat everyone here with the utmost kindness and respect, and hope that others try to, as well.

I want to join in the chorus of "thank you" to Robert.

The very few times I have had a severe difference of opinion with another poster, I have taken it off board, into private email, and if anyone has a quibble with something I have posted, I hope they afford me the same courtesy.

I think it is really important to remember that even though many of us might fit a particular demographic group, we are NOT all the same. We are not all the same age, nor are we all the same gender. We have different life experiences, we are not all the same economically, either.

I was really hurt by some of the things said in the Ted Haggard thread. I try not to take much said personally, especially on some topics, but it is a challenge, at times, to achieve such detachment.

A periodic self-assessment is good for a person, and I think it could be very good for a web community, as well.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
Hello Everyone.

I really love this website I have always loved washing machines and look at this site everyday <br
I dont feel that you need to own a vintage machine, I havent got a collection, (though I have a machine that needs fixing in a friends garage) I love looking at the pictures and video's of those who do have the time and space for a collection of classic machines. I also love discussing new models that come out as well <br
If I want to rave on about political subjects of any nature or persuasion there are plenty of blogs on sites like Sydney Morning Herald and many other news sites. Most of the threads in the super forum are of little interest to me. Give me the whitegoods that what I came here for <br
Can we please make life easier for Robert becuase his hard work certainly has brought lots of enjoyment into my life.
 
Wow 99% of these comments are great, thanks everyone. Here is what I think, we don’t have to have hard rules about what types of posts belong in the super forum. I think the occasional and I will repeat the word occasional way off topic thread is just fine is long as it is the exception. I think what is important to remember is to try and not post things that many people would consider in bad taste. <br
Now with that said if something is posted in bad taste, I would really appreciate it anyone who thinks it was in poor taste to speak up and say something in that thread. The best way to stop something like that is through peer pressure. <br
<I>Part of the problem here is that the site code is custom-written by Robert. It's not a commercial BBS package with management functions accessible by log-in of designated administrative personnel.</I
Glenn, actually I did write a control panel admin system that allows me to delete threads, move threads, close threads, delete members and other admin functions with one click of the mouse. I should probably get a few other people access to it <br
 
I assume the Super Forum is for off topic appliance related things. Sure, there was a post about the pictures of members that ran 400 plus, but they were members, thus a topic to put a face to an appliance owner, off topic for an appliance, but spot on for owners who wish to identify themselves as club members. Neither the Academy Awards, The Democatic Election, nor a member witnessing a sex act, belong, unless it involves an appliance, or soap. So, unless Hillary is caught on top of a Maytag(OMG, what model?) having sex with Martin Scorcese, we need a classic appliance or small appliance related tie in, in my humble opinion, to be in this forum. There are great gossip rooms elsewhere relating to all kinds of sex, even on airplanes. The moderator probably has much better things to do than edit pulp fiction postings. In the meantime, I think we could do him a favor by posting things more dignifed than mile high masterbation stories. But that's just my opinion. Phil
 
Thanks for all you do for us Robert. We love you <br
I do not see the need for anyone to have to email Robert because of what someone has posted. If you do not like what you read, click on something else. There is plenty here to learn about. I know I have learned many things by being here for the last 4 years. I have also made some good friends by being a part of this site <br
Lots of the stuff that gets posted in the Super section I do not even read. The topics are of no interest to me. However, they may be of interest to someone else. I don't bitch to the editor of my newspaper, if there is an article in the paper that I don't care for. I simply go on to the next page.
I do the same with this site. For instance, I don't care about dishwashers, about anyone pets, or what someone ate for dinner. So, I don't read those threads. Simple as that.
I have to say, if someone is reading every single thread on this site, they have way too much time on their hands. Get a life, and leave Robert tend to his.
 
What IS Offensive, Anyway?

There's part of this issue I'd like to speak to, and I hope that my thoughts will be taken in the spirit in which they are intended- as reflective, not inflammatory <br
One of the things I personally find most disturbing about life in the twenty-first century is that many people do not seem to find all the wonderful rights we possess quite enough for them. There is one lacking, one they find very precious- the "right" not to be offended <br
I remember when I was a kid. Back then, there was not the perception that people had a right not to be offended. Some people smoked, some didn't. Some cussed, some didn't. Some people were very outspoken about their politics. Or their ethnicity. Or, let's face it, YOUR ethnicity. And yes, people did get offended. There were some offensive things going on. But there was not the feeling that one should be able to go through life without ever once seeing, hearing, or experiencing anything offensive. Dealing with contrary ideas, traditions, prejudices and plain bad taste was just part of living in the real world. <br
Now we live in a "politically correct" era. In some ways, I actually do count it as an improvement. It has been a very long time since I've heard anyone use the "N" word in conversation, even when no African-Americans are present. And this is Atlanta, mind you. That kind of enlightenment, self-examination, and self-editing are to be lauded, even counted as a blessing. Something very offensive has passed from favour, and that's good <br
But there are other ways in which I wonder if we're on the right path. There are people who want to trample on the copyrights of others by editing adult language and images out of movies on home video- because those things offend some people. There are people who want books removed from libraries because of controversial subject matter (we have someone in this town who is absolutely determined to get Harry Potter removed from school libraries because the books "deal with witchcraft". She freely admits she hasn't read them). There are people who get all incensed about Christmas trees in airports, or menorahs in front of office buildings. <br
There are folks who don't want anything genuinely adult in movies or TV, though the juvenile titillation factor in those media grows by the year, particularly on the supposedly conservative Fox Network. We're supposed to deal with the challenges of an emerging multi-racial, multi-cultural society by ignoring the fact that we're all from varying backgrounds, saying nothing about the obvious. We can't talk about our differences, because someone might be offended. <br
And this imaginary "right" not to be offended has become a very potent weapon in the hands of those who would manipulate this society for their own ends. There are a lot of people on this list who cannot marry, have no legal right to make medical decisions on behalf of their partners, can't even write a will that is as bulletproof in probate court as the average person's. Why, because many people have it in their heads that they have a "right" not to be offended by gay men and women doing exactly what everyone else does- marrying, raising families, filing joint returns, or leaving their money to their loved ones. We've become so mired in the more misguided manifestations of political correctness that such basic things as the civil rights of millions of Americans is left to "the will of the people" <br
We knew better once. I remember when I was a pre-teen, and segregation was the law of many states, if not precisely the law of the land. I saw with my own eyes the signs on the drinking fountains and restroom doors that told some Americans that they could not use them. And plenty of people were extremely offended by the idea that things might someday change. <br
Fortunately for that situation at that time, we had legislators who were both enlightened, and courageous enough to do the right thing, knowing full well that many- in some cases, a majority- of their constituents would be offended. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed, and soon, African-Americans joined the mainstream of American society. And what do we have now? "The will of the people". <br
What I'm trying to point out here is that there really IS no right not to be offended, especially not if you want genuine freedom for all- a goal I would hope every American supports. I would not for a moment say that I find nothing personally offensive- I do. I'm no fan of bigotry, of smarminess, of titillation masquerading as entertainment, of censorship, or of reality TV, for that matter. But I do feel that all these things- and many more- are part of the human condition, and that it is not my place to govern them. As I mentioned earlier, I've seen a decline in bigotry, even if we are a long way from its eradication. The other things I've mentioned will pass from favour or from fashion. I do not feel I have the right to tell other people that they cannot watch what they please, say what they like, believe what they do, feel as they feel, no matter how offensive I find whatever's going on <br
What I DO have is the right to turn my head, to find other people to be around, to say, "No thank you", to change the channel, to find some other book to read. <br
In the 1996 movie, "The American President", Michael Douglas plays a fictional President, one Andrew Shepherd. In a speech, President Shepherd says, "America is Advanced Citizenship- you gotta want it BAD.&quot <br
That's what we're forgetting in our rush to make the world over in a fashion that suits each and every one of us- a task which is logically impossible anyway. America IS Advanced Citizenship, and you really DO gotta want it bad, and sometimes that means letting the other guy do whatever makes your blood boil, because his rights are YOUR rights too, and if you take some of his away from him, you've set the precedent for someone taking yours away from you <br
Enough of me on my soapbox. As Robert and Linda Richman (not necessarily in that order) have said: Discuss. Or not.
 
What was so bad? I just cant see the horrors of dicussing a news article that was sensational enough to one member they felt they wanted to share <br
Now if that had happened to me, well I might have made the news for violent acts, but getting bent out of shape over a discussion of it? <br
I dont understand. Did I miss a great thread? It only had 2 comments when I said "ewwwwww". Is it just the fact that people were "off topic"?
 
Thanks Retromom!

I couldn't agree with Retromom more. She took the words right out of my mouth. "What I have grown weary of is the need for some to post uber bizarre, controversial, and/or inflammatory topics that have nothing to do with anything that holds this common interest group together; appliances. If I want social, religious, or political commentary, I'll get on a blog, grab a newspaper, or watch the news. Most of us have dealt with office chaos all day long, put up with traffic jams, heard the latest tragedy story on the news, and would, frankly, like a little escape to something more pleasurable. This place gives us the outlet most need to "chill" for a while. I'm sure there are more "liberating" forums out there just waiting to be clicked on. "
This site has no place for anything other then appliance related topics (and their accessories!). <br
And Thank you Robert for keeping AWO up and running and for all of your time and work in doing so. Hugs man.-- James
 
one point for pturo... <br
some time ago, at the behest of my ex, i examined the now-nonexistent archived posts in order to settle an argument...and was vastly amused <br
LOADS of social commentary, political rantings, offensive religious categorizations were posted, especially at trigger points in time such as 9/11, the Cronulla riots, the presidential selections, the healthcare debate, various falls from grace by so-called "controversial" celebrities and opinion leaders.. <br
This idea that loaded topics are a recent innovation around here is utter codswallop....and they certainly predated postings from two years ago <br
Let us accept that there are certain realities in life that we may not want to accept, but that are natural and normal for everyday people to post about, in any given period of time <br
Old-timers, you may not approve of the answers you get, or find responses "inflammatory", but could that be because the membership of the board has grown more diverse, there are new awarenesses regarding the state of the world that perhaps contradict what was said before, and you just don't happen to like the posters themselves <br
What has changed is that folks show a lot less patience, and even less empathy toward one another, than in the past. And I applaud sandy for highlighting the destructive power of suppression in everyday discourse, and what it's doing to the nation and the world at large <br
This is a community of largely like-minded people who are truthseekers and want to see a wide range of opinions, not a mind-control appliance cult. If such groups form, fine...but don't berate and limit the basic rights of expression for those who choose to opt out of it, and don't extend the cult's norms and stringencies to the rest of us, who have other lives and don't regard every difference of opinion as a threat that necessarily has to divide us <br
Thank you.
 
I look forward every single day to this site. Robert has created the BEST site on the internet for US. this IS a APPLIANCE Site. keep it that way. no off topics what so ever,UNLESS its related to appliances only <br
Robert, your the best <br
3 cheers for Robert, HIP HIP Heraay! HIP HIP HERAAY! HIP HIP HERAAY <br
Sincerely <br
Rich Ami
 
WHY???

Hey Everyone
OK, I know I don't post that often (I have a new job that keeps me insanely busy. Which PS, if there is anyone that is looking for an Account Manager position with a large marketing firm in Chicago please send me your resume. My boss is looking to fill two positions... one of which is on my team ;-) and she has been hard pressed to find quality people) but none the less I'm on the site everyday! I don't know what I would do without my POD!!!
Honestly, I have never been offended by anything in my life. I am a very easy going whatever makes you happy kind of person.
With that said, there have been a few times that I have read things on this site that I did not agree with or that were so off topic I felt they should really be on another web site. I didn't get mad, I didn't email Robert and I didn't cause a stink. I hit the back button and looked for another thread that peaked my interest. While I think that Appliancevile should be a clean fun place for everyone, every now and then there is going to be someone that posts something that is a little too PG-13. Where only human, we are going to make mistakes. If you don't care for something you see, go to another thread, or tell the poster that you think the post might be a little to racy for the site then drop it. I was once told by a very wise person "Harping a subject doesn't fix the problem, it only makes you look like a drama queen!"
We are lucky to have Robert and this wonderful site. It’s really unfair to ask him to take time from his already busy day to play cyber monitor
That's just my 2cent
Donni
 
This is Robert's site. In a sense, he is the boss of us

I agree with Sudsmaster totally. I for one DON"T want to see the Super forum shut down. I also sincerely appreciate Robert and all that he does for us. It is very clear and obvious that Robert is fed up with this situation and rightfully so. Let's all look out for each other and keep in mind what this site is really about. As people, I believe we are more alike than different. Lets focus on what we have in common and that is appliances,detergent,additives etc. Also, hopefully Robert wouldn't mind the occasional recipe swap. But that is his call and his alone
~Shane
 
I think what Robert is trying to say is that folks have a reasonable expectation of what they will find when they log on here, based on what kind of a site it is supposed to be. If they don't find just that, he doesn't want to hear about it if we are to keep the site going as is and without modification. And that's certainly a reasonable expectation
 
Oh heck, it's easy!

1. Be an adult <br
2. If a thread offends you, suck it up and move on <br
3. You're not entitled to be the forum police; if you have a beef with someone, that's what email is for. Use it <br
4. Robert is not your mother, so stop pulling his apron strings and let him get the dishwasher loaded <br
5. Robert is the only Big Dog here--not you, not you, and certainly not you. Let him do as he sees fit <br
6. Shutting Up is always an option <br
7. For heaven's sake, UNCLENCH <br
veg
 
Hey there Andrew!
Robert and others around here already know that I don't care about dishwashers. I was "busted" on that a couple years ago, but they let me stay anyway. <:
 
Diversity is the essence of this group.

Though this is of course mainly an American site about vintage automatic washers, I think it is so much fun to read about laundry habits and related topics from all over the world in the Super Forum.
We all share a deep love for washers, detergents and appliances, vintage or new. For just that reason I consider most of you a sort of a friend, even though never met in person
I appreciate to be able to discuss "off topics", like a film about gay cowboys or even recipes with friends <br
I find it just plain sad and pathetic if some of us have to bother our dear webmaster because they can not overread or discuss reasonably whatever they don`t like.
I mean this forum is a gift and we all know that Robert is busy with work.
I don`t know about the paricular offensive thread, but whatever it was about, it can`t be worth to jeopardize the whole system of this wonderful site by constantly calling for a babysitter. <br
If someone doesn`t like to hear a strong German accent, just overread my posts ! :-)
 
Veg you post is a masterpiece! (No sarcasm here at all) <br
Before the sandbox (righfully) gets obliterated, would anyone care to refer me/us to recipe threads, so I can print and archive <br
Thank you kindly. <br
 

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