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I love the way the washer looks........What bugs me the most is the wash/rinse action, in that how LONG it takes for the towels to submerge and roll over. I know that this does "eventually happen", but so much time is wasted waiting for it to happen, that I wonder if they are getting as clean and rinse as they could. I mean, when the towels at the top take three minutes to finally roll over.....I guess it's just me. Lots of people like these machines and say they get clothes clean so maybe there's more going on than what I'm seeing.
 
nonplussed

I wish I could like the sounds of the new type washers. I can't. Sounds like they're straining doing what they should do happily. The turn over doesn't impress either. Sorry. My '96 DD is gonna' keep doin' our duds for the forseeable future. If it was terminal at this point,I'd go SQ TL, possibly SQ FL. I wanted to like this new Whirly.
 
Jamie your machine is very nice. I just don't think i am a T/L hE person. I doubt, if a casual user would even notice the difference. It would be very difficult for me to embrace this "change". If your old enough to remember the double take customers in sears made when they first saw the dual-action, wait until older customers see this and I am taking it that there will be no other Kenmore option when WP completely changes over? arthur
 
Most of the clothes we wear every day does not get that dirty. You have to do a test with really dirty clothes, like taking a white towel, and wipe the sidewalk, or a dirty balcony with it. Then run the same load and see if it comes out clean.
I have serious doubts that this machine would do the job. When I buy an HE machine, it will be a front loader for sure. I just don't see how this top-loading wash action can clean anything. And I think most people who buy those machines have no clue what goes on inside before they buy it. They assume this: A big tub, without an agitator, I can fill this up with a huge load. Wow. And I don't have to bend down. Cool. Let's buy it.

So please do a test with a really dirty load and let's see the results. To convince us, the skeptics. haha.

Thanks,
 
I'm not sure if this is the same as the new Maytag Bravo, but the bleach is dumped into the tub right away, and it looks like the tray could take it, but it's capped off with a "HE" logo.

I'd like to see a video of a full load (to the top) as most large house hold would do.. Will the clothes wash?? (I'm still not sold on TL HE washers.
 
deep

these new top loaders with deep, deep tubs look like you'd need the arms of an orangutan to reach the clothes at the bottom...ha-ha
 
Agitator

It does appear that a model with an agitator is coming. Should perform just like the Hydrowave. Of the two, I wonder which one will outlast the other. My first guess would be the Whirlpool over the GE, but time will tell.

Malcolm
 
Water cheat!!!!

I like the gray wash plate in the Maytag!

For those who don't like how little water it uses, I made a vid showing how machine performs using the water cheat I found!

It only takes about 3-4 minutes, here's how I do it: Put the load in sans chemical, start it, use my hand to divert the flowing water to drench the load while turning the tub to drench the WHOLE load, set the machine to spin on low speed for a few seconds, stop it, add chemicals, set controls and start it. It senses the weight of the load and determines the correct water level via the weight sensing. Making the load slightly heavier makes it use more water.

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oh,to be impressed

But I'm not. Still sounds like a dumb teenager continually hitting the gas & letting off in his mom's slant 6 Valiant. Hope it does good for you.
 
And..

They should've used a little more PLASTIC. I AM sorry to be harsh,but my disappointment cup overfloweth like our '63 Frigidaire Imperial rinse cycle used to. Nevermore.
 
Hey Pulsator

That last vid looked much better. I also noticed your machine has a bulky cycle. I would assume that cycle would use a lot more water as well *without having to trick it*.....No?
 
Thanks for the videos!

I wonder what the temps on this washer are. How warm is warm and how hot is hot? And does Heavy Duty and Extra Heavy soil level result in a hot-only fill?
 
How big is the load on your last video? It seems like such a small load compared to the size of the tub.

Do these machines ever get filled up all the way to the top (or at least 3/4 ) ???
 
It probably was filled to the top, but like it a front loader, once the load is wet, it tamps down a lot. Perhaps you're not supposed to fill above a certain line on the tub either. I agree though, every vid I've seen with these machines the load doesn't appear to be very large.....It's hard to tell because the tamp down so much when wet.
 
Congratulations on the new machine!

I guess most people who have toploaders with a wash plate have the tendency of not filling them up to the top as they used to do with traditional agitators. On Youtube there are only a few videos that appear to be filled to the top. So the question is Jamie, how full was your machine when you filled it?

It's the same for frontloaders actually. There are hardly any movies of American sized frontloaders that are filled to capacity. Europeans are used to fill frontloaders properly, with only a little space on the top left.
 
I have tried filling it to the top before, actually, I've done 2 Bobloads in it! It usually squishes everything down to about 2/3 full when there is a HUGE load in it. I have yet to try a Bobload in it with my new water trick. I tried out the Clean Washer cycle to see what it would do and it fills all the way to the rim of he tub with HOT water! So it's not like it won't fill up a ton. I just wonder what it will do with a Bobload and my new water cheat... I'll be sure to take a video of that!

Also, even without the water cheat, both Bobloads came out flawlessly. No more stains (they were nasty loads), nothing tangled, and everything soft and fresh smelling! I did have to split the loads between 2 dryers each though...
 
Jamie, when you do your bobload, be sure to a video of it full and dry load and the machine starting up and doing it's fill.
 
I read in the service manual (kindly linked above by Malcolm) and it reassured the user that water should not cover the load as with a traditional top-loader, because the extra water will lift the clothes off the impeller, thus reducing cleaning power and increasing tangling.

This is a case where less water produces better results. Even if it is a bit painful to watch, LOL!
 
Excessive Fabric Wear and Tear

On the subject of excessive fabric wear and tear imposed by top loading HE washers, I think by and large most users select the incorrect cycle and/or a longer washing time than required by the load being washed. I know I am guilty of this too. When I had my GE Harmony pair, I would frequently ramp up the soil level to the maximum because I felt that more was better. I began to notice towels fraying around the edges and shirts pilling out of control.

Painfully, over the years, I am getting used to the idea that less is more. I remember reading a report somewhere a while back that indicated that the majority of the soil in a load of laundry would be shifted in the first four minutes of agitation. Superior results would come from a short prewash followed by a short main wash rather than a long wash cycle alone. When I had my LG set, I used to always include a prewash with every cycle or my results would end up poor. That is, I would select a light soil level then add a prewash.

Listen to me ramble on....

Malcolm
 

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