If you don;t like HE Washing Machines
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That is quite an eloquent examination of the machines functionality.
norgeway
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Ihave a simplified version...
No water...no washing....no water no rinsing......
No water...no washing....no water no rinsing......
mralex
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So much swearing! lol
Make no mistake, a washplate-based top-loader is at the bottom of my list of choices for a washer; but based on empirical evidence I'm astonished these guys survived rubbing both their brain cells together to make the video.
So how can you test an HE toploader with a sensor without any laundry in it? Doesn't make sense to me.
BTW, this is a post about a modern machine, therefor it belongs in the Deluxe Forum, not in the Imperial.
BTW, this is a post about a modern machine, therefor it belongs in the Deluxe Forum, not in the Imperial.
speedqueen
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On JayKay18
There are many things that he is right about, but many others that he is not on. He is good at fixing things, but has many false beliefs on things. He is generally a mixed bag with a select few but very loyal followers. He is the only person to YouTube who can have 100 views on a video but over 30 comments and 80 likes at the same time.
There are many things that he is right about, but many others that he is not on. He is good at fixing things, but has many false beliefs on things. He is generally a mixed bag with a select few but very loyal followers. He is the only person to YouTube who can have 100 views on a video but over 30 comments and 80 likes at the same time.
Yeah...
JayKay18 also has created his own wash-in, he calls it "Wash Day Wash In." He and another YouTube user Sharkie626 wash towels in his two Whirlpool Direct Drive washers (Whirlpool's last good top load washers) and they talk about how bad the HE washers are. I forgot to mention, that one LG washing machine got replaced with a Speed Queen!!
JayKay18 also has created his own wash-in, he calls it "Wash Day Wash In." He and another YouTube user Sharkie626 wash towels in his two Whirlpool Direct Drive washers (Whirlpool's last good top load washers) and they talk about how bad the HE washers are. I forgot to mention, that one LG washing machine got replaced with a Speed Queen!!
joeypete
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Oh brother
I can't watch his videos. He repeats the same things over and over and over and over and over and over. It's like, come on, get over it already. I can't imagine being that obsessed over being against something. I'm all for retro, but this dude is just plain stuck in another era. LOL
I can't watch his videos. He repeats the same things over and over and over and over and over and over. It's like, come on, get over it already. I can't imagine being that obsessed over being against something. I'm all for retro, but this dude is just plain stuck in another era. LOL
This vid I find
Even more interesting. Has anyone else tried this at home?
Even more interesting. Has anyone else tried this at home?
brucelucenta
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New HE top load washers are NOTHING like the washers before this era of HE machines. I personally do not feel I could EVER get used to using one the way it works and that is why I choose to have a front load machine. I do not think that my front load machine is very aggressive with really dirty items, but with the extra time and heat boost it seems to accomplish the same results as an aggressive top loader in cleaning. One thing a front loader is excellent at is getting rid of lint and not promoting more while washing. It also saves a great deal on water and on energy to dry clothes, since it spins out so well. It just takes a long time for a cycle, which I have adjusted to.
Jon-- Thanks for providing more evidence that the guy making these videos is misguided.
Of course the HE machine in the video above uses more water to do a complete fill. The tub is larger! That also means it can wash a larger load than the traditional Whirlpool. A machine's water efficiency is based on the amount of water used per pound of clothing, not on how many gallons it takes to fill the tub.
CR and reviewed.com test the cleaning ability of HE top-loaders by allowing the machine to select the amount of water used. That reduces the total gallons used substantially when compared to a traditional top-loader.
There are legitimate reasons to dislike high efficiency top-loaders. This guy's specious test is not one of them.
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Of course the HE machine in the video above uses more water to do a complete fill. The tub is larger! That also means it can wash a larger load than the traditional Whirlpool. A machine's water efficiency is based on the amount of water used per pound of clothing, not on how many gallons it takes to fill the tub.
CR and reviewed.com test the cleaning ability of HE top-loaders by allowing the machine to select the amount of water used. That reduces the total gallons used substantially when compared to a traditional top-loader.
There are legitimate reasons to dislike high efficiency top-loaders. This guy's specious test is not one of them.
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mralex
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Frigilux
Completely agree with you!
Completely agree with you!
I prefer top load washers over front load washers, simply because they plain work, and get it done in 30 minutes. Front loaders spin faster, but a faster spin puts stress on the fabrics. My Maytag A810 washer and Maytag DG810 dryer from the 80's that has never had a repair that I know of ( I acquired the Maytag washer and dryer around Auguest of last year ) and it has been working fine without a problem since then. Maytag washers of the 50's 60's 70's 80's and 90's did not have largest capacity, but since the tub was not as deep, but was wider, it spun a good amount of water out. Our front loader had a fast spin speed, but the average drying time was an hour. My Maytag does not have the fastest spin speed, but the drying time is still an hour ( Towels take an our to dry, but regular fabrics take 45 minutes to dry ). Our Kenmore dryer that matched the washer ( It is for sale in the Shoppers Square section ) that had automatic dry cycles, but it never worked properly from the beginning. I always used the timed drying cycle, instead of the automatic dry cycles.
I'm with Eugene. A washplate HE is at the bottom of my list. Next to the bottom of the list is any modern agitator-looking washer. Direct drive Whirlpool-produced products are even lower, aka Shredmores. I'm with Bruce. Front loaders only. Higher water temps, better disgusting stain removal, cleaner clothes, and mine are lasting longer. With difficult stains, I spent more time washing/soaking a load in the Shredmore than my front loader using steam, sanitize or extra hot temperatures and still costs me less due to less water usage and heating required 23 gallons of hot water.
And that guy measuring all the water, he wasn't realistic. Because of fabric saturation and water retention following the spin between wash & rinse, the rinse fill uses lest water than the wash fill.
And that guy measuring all the water, he wasn't realistic. Because of fabric saturation and water retention following the spin between wash & rinse, the rinse fill uses lest water than the wash fill.
Front loaders use less water, but use more electricity, and most of all, waste time! Another thing about top loading washers is, you can use whatever laundry detergent you want. We bought Tide Pods in the summer of 2014, and they didn't really work. I dislike those Tide Pods pods, just as much as Front loaders! I forgot to mention, when the door gasket failed on our front loader, it was the definition of 'SHREDMORE', it put small holes in my clothes!
wft2800
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Front-loaders shouldn't take TOO much time (I've read of some silly cycle times lately), but then some of the classic American top-loaders with 10, 12, 15-minute max wash times... daft! Just not enough to clean effectively...
mralex
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The washer that was in my old flat had a FL and it was like a 5/6kg with super small drum and the standard program at 40c took 3,5h and I couldn't runt it at night cause the neighbour complained about noise. It was a nightmare
