IFA 2014

[glenfieldmathk1]

With IFA starting this Friday (5th September), I thought I would start a thread, so we can showcase all the new Home Appliances.
Please add to it with all other machines/appliances you see and have info for?

I will start with the new Miele W1 XL Tronic washing machine, Remember the Supertronic? Well this machine is based on it (just in the W1 design), with a touch screen display, featuring Powerwash2.0, Twin Dos system, and smart Phone Capability. Part of the new Miele Smart Home range, based on previous Miele@home.
Looking amazing: http://dishwashers.reviewed.com/news/miele-debuts-smart-home-app-at-ifa-2014#?popup=351662. (Picture 1)

Next Up:
The Siemens "Transparent" Dishwasher. Basically a Dishwasher that features smartphone compatibilty, and is the most packed featured model Siemens dishwasher yet, with a massive range of programmes and options, two colour displays and 14 place settings.
http://www.siemens-home.de/siemens-...eilungen/detail/pressrelease-385#main-content. (Picture 2, 3, 4)
& Bosch Have one too: http://www.bosch-home.com/de/presse...-trifft-auf-einfach-intuitive-bedienung~13750

Finally from Me:
The new control ring from Bosch, a Hightlight from Bosch at IFA this year.
Massively improved controls on the oven. Could it feature the same new innovation that Siemens (in Pic 5) are launching - the Speed Perfect? Which apparently cooks with the same results, no burning, no frozen parts as normal oven, just in half the time, when option enabled. I guess we'll see!
This is an Oven!
http://www.bosch-home.com/de/
Pic 6

I hope others will add more products news from IFA to the thread. Maybe some of you are going...

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Washing under an hour:
Not sure if its as standard, or if like most others theres a speed/quick button.
But Lg claim their latest Series 5 washing machine, debuting at IFA can wash cottons/cottons large, mix, easy care cycles in just 1 hour, freeing time to spend with family. If its as standard, then great, but my guess is it's like any other requiring a speed button to be pressed.

 

[adamthemieleman]

Looks good! That new Miele looks beautiful

 

[logixx]

Looking forward to trying them out when I go to Berlin!

 

[mielerod69]

IFA

I will be going to IFA and will be looking forward to all the new innovations. I will post some photos when I get back home.

 

[logixx]

You're coming from Australia?!? And I thought I had a long way to travel... I'll be going on Monday - most likely - when most of the rush from the weekend has died down. IFA is very cool. It's like washer-wonderland.

 

[logixx]

English Miele press releases

 

http://press.miele.com/de/en/press/article/themes.aspx?tax=e228

 

[paulinroyton]

LGF14U1TBS2

Hi Glenfieldmathk1

I recently purchased the LG F14U1TBS2 washing machine. The machine has Turbo Wash which takes just under 1 hour, you can add 1 extra rinse making the cycle a little bit longer. You have a choice of normal wash, intensive or turbo wash for each cycle.

I have not tried the turbo wash feature yet, but will be washing on Saturday and will wash the bedding on turbo wash, so will keep you posted on the performance

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Thanks Logixx for the link!
It wasn't available earlier, so obviously the product is certainly new to the public

 

[logixx]

I think these new Bosch/Siemens ovens with varioSpeed are basically just regular ovens with a built-in microwave. Miele sells just that and calls it a Combination Oven in Europe... but a Speed Oven in the US.

 

Found this picture online: the new Gorenje/Panasonic washers.

 

[henene4]

IFA is really great, not only the appliance-section. Last year I've been there and boy, watching 3D on an 8K 80" flat screen is impressive.
But both Miele and Panasonic look nice. Are these Panasonics to be sold as Gorenje as well, or how can I imagine the splitted sell?

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Logixx - they look great
Heres the link, which includes high resolution images:

http://ifa.panasonic.eu/en/press/homeapp/washers/

 

[jerrod6]

I like the look of these washers as long as I don't have to see those curved designs on the side.  That is driving me nuts every time I look at it. What's wrong with a plain flat panel on the side?  Nitpicking I know, but it is something significant enough that it would make me think more than 5 times whether I want to see this in my house for the next several years.

 

[adamthemieleman]

Interesting, are Panasonic in bed with Gorenje? They look like Gorenje machines.

 

[dascot]

Yes, Adam. Panasonic bought a share in Gorenje (about 12-15% I think) and have a long term strategic alliance planned with shared R&D and production for laundry, refrigeration and cooking appliances.

 

[newwave1]

Ooh paneje's and asko'onics? Lol interesting! I do love gorenje!

The supertronic W1 looks abit more edgy than the standard stuff I like that!

Darren

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

New Siemens / Bosch Washers & Dryers (IFA 2014)

Fantastic new look Bosch Logixx/IQ700 machines have launched (so the range below the Home Professional washers/TOL models).

They all feature Eco Silence/IQ Drive, and all come in at A+++-30% Energy.
I think they'll be affordable too.
Another new drum has been added - this time a 65l Wave Drum (Meaning the Opti-wave is now exclusive to the Home Pro/IQ800 ranges). (The 58l/62l Wave drum is staying for the lower ranges).

No Bosch Press release, as yet?

Press Release Siemens:
http://www.siemens-home.de/siemens-...ilungen/detail/pressrelease-2433#main-content

Range Of Pictures:
1. Bosch Serie|8 Logixx - iDos
2. Bosch Serie|8 Logixx Exclusive - iDos (Zoomed Display)
3. Bosch Serie|8 Logixx - ASR
4. Bosch Serie|8 Logixx Exclusive - ASR (Zoomed Programmes)
5. Bosch Serie|8 Logixx - Standard
6. Bosch Serie|8 Logixx - Standard (Zoomed Display)
7 & 8. Bosch Serie|8 Dryers (Heat Pump, Self Cleaning)
9 & 10. Siemens Extraklasse IQ790 - iDos
11. Siemens IQ700 - iDos
12. Siemens Extraklasse IQ790 - ASR
13 & 14. Siemens IQ700 - ASR
15 & 16. Siemens Extraklasse IQ790 - Standard (known as Eco Champion)
17. Drum zoomed
18, 19 & 20. Siemens Dryer (Heat Pump, Self Cleaning)

Manuals available on line all ready too.
Credit to Siemens/Bosch for providing Pictures.

 

[logixx]

Here are all the press releases along with high quality images from Bosch in English. It's a 385MB zip file.

 

http://www.bosch-home.com/Files/Bosch2/De/de/Press/Pressekit_IFA/BoschPressKitIFA2014.zip

 

[henene4]

9kg

I am just checking some new models and the Siemens WM14W590 is rated 9kg! I'm shocked... Though, it's only a 65l drum...

 

[logixx]

Siemens IFA 2014 Innovations:


Bosch IFA 2014 Innovations:

 

[richnz]

Some lovely looking stuff coming to the shops soon

I can't see why if after paying top dollar for the best appliances why you would bother to push the eco button. A few litres of water saved and a few cents of electricity. Then the disappointment of having to rewash a bowl or shirt because it was not cleaned properly.

As for the trickery of drum volume/load capacity its almost like you have to go to the shops with a large load of laundry to see if it will fit inside. Often you are encouraged when shopping for dishwashers to take along bowls and plates to see how well they fit.

Finally after watching a video on YT:



Notice the profile of the door glass?
Has it always been shaped like a washer from the 90's. My W377 has a similar profile.

 

[henene4]

PowerWash 2.0

Not sure if I'm the first to realize, but I've been ones again blasted by Miele.
The manual of the WMV 960 is online for Germany and the UI is quite simple to use, yet it offfers a huge amount of options.
BUT one chapter blew me of my chair.
It states, that for medium and small loads, after the soaking routine, the washer sets the right water level, and it won't only add water, it might even drain some. The level it aims for is supposed to be low. Really low. It sounds like the water level is supposed to only cover the heater. Then, the recirc is started and only this minor pool of water is heated and sprayed on the load.
For me, this sounds like the SmartEx industrial washer which has no free water in the drum. And I think, this could be quite an advntage.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

an enthusiast's video on youtube - that I needed to show
To all those thinking you can only operate with a cell phone, think again, it is touch screen, and is great to see, it also explains why in the picture it looks like only half the displays on, the other half is touch sensitive buttons like on the Supertronic!


Candy, Beko, LG and Indesit all have some 9KG machines, with smaller drum volumes.
Bosch/siemens 65l 9Kg has been around for about 2 years now, no complaints, in fact if you ask me its better, as it wont be filled to actual capacity, so will last longer as less strain.
That said they've been designed to be crammed full (in fact one of the international Hotpoint brochures actually shows/showed this).

back to Miele, I'm not sure about powerwash 2.0 but if it drains out the water, it'll drain the detergent out too - meanwhile I hope they added an extra rinse, as the 1 default is not enough.

 

[newwave1]

Miele: my LG used to operate in a similar manner of hardly any water in the drum and the strong recirc jet did most of the work!

Found these pics on Instagram too of vestel machines at IFA
Darren

 

[henene4]

The PowerWash cycle has been the most updated cycle Miele had so far.
This PoerWash 2.0 is supposed to work on Cottons and Easy Care. And I guess that, as the detergent will be dissolved and distributed after the soaking/saturating stage, the ratio detergent to water will stay the same. And TwinDose could redose. And, the manual states further that some options like water plus and/or prewash would deactivate this washsystem.

 

[l86810]

I read in the Miele press release that the machine compensates for the lower water level by doing frequent spins during the wash, to drive the water through the clothes.

Sounds like it would be pretty fun to watch!

 

[newwave1]

I heard that too! Much more exciting than there previous ranges

Darren

 

[newwave1]

I heard that too! Much more exciting than there previous ranges

Darren

 

[rolls_rapide]

Spin Bursts!

Yay!

All modern machines should be doing these.

I have found that some machines take absolute ages to saturate the load, so doing such sequences would help to wet the laundry quicker, in conjunction with pumped spray jets.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

So Who's been??

Care to share with us any more photo's, video's, any other new appliances??