Imperial by Hobart Kitchenaid dishwasher is flooding

[zippyjet]

Forgot to captain my photo above

This is the newer Hobart detergent dispenser. One of Whirlpool's big mistakes was getting rid of what I feel is the best detergent dispenser and replacing it with the run of the mill "El-Cheapo" Whirlpool design.

 

[combo52]

Hobart Designed Detergent Dispensers

Were an ok design at the time but had MANY problems, because their Bi-Metal actuators were wired in series with the main motor they would not always open reliably if the wash filter was dirty, the water level was a little low, if the machine was foaming from certain protean foods etc. This dispenser design had lots of leaks into the inside of the door and because of the placement of the BM opener it could cause shorts, burned connections and sometimes even FIRES. The lids on these dispensers also did not seal their contents very well and they sometimes washed out too soon.

 

While NO manufacturer has made a perfect Det Dispenser for their DWs, the various dispenser designs that WP has built and used since the mid 1970s have been without all the above mentioned problems.

 

[jetcone]

my vote is

the sticking water valve overflowing the machine.

Lets see what we find.

 

[Anne]

Its the timer on the flooding KDI-16!

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and for encouraging me to do everything I can to find someone who would take a look at my beautiful Hobart (circa 1970) dishwasher.

Finally found a repairman who was not afraid to have a look. In fact when I called him and said that I had an older Kitchen Aid dishwasher that I was having trouble with, he excitedly asked, "Is it a Hobart?"

He has diagnosed the problem as a timer issue. Basically, the dishwasher fills up, washes and then, without draining, goes into another filling cycle (rinse?)? He was able to get it to drain by fiddling with something....Anyway, I need a replacement timer for a KDI-16. The original part # was 4170701, later updated to Part # 160484.

Should I do a separate posting asking for this post.

Many thanks,

 

[Anne]

Just spoke to Larry at Modern Parts House in Cleveland. He said that those part numbers are not correct. He has the timers for KDI-16 that do not have the soak cycle. My model does have a soak cycle.....

 

[rp2813]

Keep an eye out on ebay.  New-in-box parts like this have been known to surface there.

 

I also think you have the right idea about starting a new thread with a heading about what you're looking for.  Someone here may have exactly what you need.

 

[chachp]

Check this auction...

..you may want to email this seller and see if he has what you need.

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[chachp]

Another one..

Anne, here is another one you may want to check out. Looks like he has some timers for the older machines but I wasn't sure of the actual part number for yours. I have a KDS-17a and he had an upper spray arm (a new one) for mine which was a real surprise. He actually had multiples of them so it's worth a shot.

Ralph

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[combo52]

Flooding KA KDI-16 DW

Anne glad you are on the way to getting your DW fixed, be sure when you get a timer and are having it installed that the service guy fixes the overfill control switch, usually the metal tube in the sump is just clogged with rust, but in some cases the pressure switch is bad. If the overfill control is working these DWs should never flood unless the inlet valve mechanically sticks open.

 

I checked my parts inventory and found a new timer for the KDI-16 Non Soak cycle model. I suspect that the non soak timer would work but you would lose the soak feature and a wire may have to be jumped so the DW would not stall near the beginning of the cycle.