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Seemed Interesting

He seemed fine.He has visited with other members. Bought machines,whats the real problem.He actually seems sane compared to other posters.Your right that was a strange pic,but then again so is this club.Thanks
 
I'm speechless

Robert,
I respect your decision and support and applaud your efforts to keep this site going and safe. The other identities were before my time here, but I know you must have had more than ample reason.

Maybe he really isn't a liar as much as a good fiction writer. If he could turn this talent to novel form he could become quite wealthy. Hey--Fiction is working for Sara Palin.

I wish him luck, as he must be a tortured soul. This is a bad time of year for some, I hope he gets the support he is seeking.
 
Am I the only one here that knew this was Chad from the start? I mean both aliases ended in 321, the multiple brain fart posts, the constant want of changing vehicles, the dealer hosing him, etc etc etc. I really feel for the guy. He is trying for contact and interaction. I hope he finds what he is looking for.
 
Oh yeah, I remember that one. He was starved for attention. His posts would get stranger and stranger, until Robert finally would call him on his lies, and the weird photos he would post. From the insides of his grandmothers fridge (strange), to the photo of his previous nights "trick" still in the motel bed. He is a very disturbed person.
 
Too Bad

I am still fairly new here, but I was scratching my head when this guy appears and is only a member here shortly, and is picking up machines left and right. I think I want to say he had like 8-10 machines within a couple of months. I can honestly say that I am so pleased to be part of this Club and everyone is so helpfull and friendly.

Why would anyone want to jeopardize a relationship like that ?
Poor Fellow.

Thank you Robert for all that you do and the guy that you are.

Wishing everyone nothing but good things, Eddie
 
Todd,

Four other members mentioned to me privately that they had their suspicions and I did, too.
Like you, I think we all felt as if it was just none of our business. I'm happy to write to Robert about centripetal motion. I don't feel like it's my place to bitch at him about other member's eccentricities.
Certainly, if Robert had not directly requested we speak up to him about it in the future, I would have kept my opinions on the matter to myself, too.

I very much struggle with how hard it is for me to reign in my distaste for people with whom I disagree, running to Robert always strikes me as risking that he'll just say "a pox on all your houses" and pull the plug.

But a clear order is a clear order. I don't, however, see it as license to mob people. You and I are representative of the ideologically opposite poles here on many issues, but I appreciate that you don't organize lynch-mobs against me, just because we don't see eye to eye on some things and I hope I've managed to be civil to you, especially when it has turned out one of us was right after all and the other wrong.

I may have overreacted to some of the abuse heaped on
Chad the last time (time before last?) but the basic principle is the same: There, but for the grace of God, go I.

We're too disparate a group to ever agree on some things, but it's Robert's living room and, in the end, his ball. He invited us to play, not to brawl.
Personally, I do wish Chad all the best. He's not a bad person.
 
Well done Robert!! I hadn't figured out yet this could be Chad, but I was starting to wonder why we never saw a picture of this guy himself although pictures were taken at the places he was.

Bad or not, he should have sent Robert a request for reappearing on the club instead of sneaking in again with a different identity. Some habits never die!

Louis
 
I also thought in the back of my mind that this was Chad also. I do not post much but try to read post that I want and skip some due to postings like he was doing and had done several times under the different member names.

Thanks Robert
 
I think we all could have tolerated Chad's presence here if he didn't post in spam-like quantities (and he hadn't chosen such a creepy avatar). The poor guy needs to get a life.
 
Attaboy Robert

I can really sympathise with you on the difficulty of dealing with such a delicate problem. About 15 years ago I started the Sacramento Valley Bear Club. I had one of the members,
(also a board member) almost get us kicked out of a free meeting venue, as well as put me in a bad position, as the person he pissed off, was also my boss as well. Needless to say, I had to, as the president of the club, ask him to step down from his position. I had to be very tactful, but direct. I know just how hard that is to acheive sometimes. I also know just how hard it is to protect an investment of time, and labor of love, as this club is to you! Sometimes you canot remain the popular one, when you are in charge of something as big and great as this is. But you gotta do, what you gotta do. I commend you for what you had to do, as well as, the effort you have put in to make this club as awesome as it is today. My hats off to you sir. Hugs David
 
"picking up machines left and right"

i try not to get involved in any of the personal or political discussions on the site, keeping it about washers and dishwashers for me. but i have to comment on the above mentioned comment about the person of interest here "picking up machines left and right".

i don't see that as odd at all, or suspicious. i've only been a member myself for about a year and now have about 33 dishwashers and those 6 rollermatics i was so fortunate to find thru the help of people on this site. not to mention an assortment of other dryers, washers, and a flair stove. all thanks to my hard work, some extra money i had and the help of the people here on automaticwasher.org.

so i have definately been picking up machines left and right this year and if that's looked at as odd or questionable, oh well! some of us go at it faster than others. i had the time, some extra money, and the help i needed to get a pretty good collection going in a short time period. i'm not saying this to brag, it's just a fact. summer 2009 was my "appliance collecting" summer! i enjoyed every minute of it! i enjoyed all the road trips and all the fun people i have met!

i don't think it should matter how many machines a member has or how quick he got them. it doesn't to me at least. i just want to see pics and videos when they do get them!
 
Keven, yes we are opposite on a lot of issues and the same on others (gun control comes to mind). I have been trying to be as civil as possible as well. If you notice I rarely post on the political stuff anymore. Feelings get hurt too often and it doesn't do this site any justice. I am just a collecting nut and packrat and come here to see the neat finds and maybe offer help if I can.

To respond to a few of your other points: you stated about having a distaste for those who you disagree with. I have no distaste for anyone or anyone's viewpoint. You know what opinions are like (a$$holes, we all have them and they all stink). I think that's what makes this site & collecting in general fun and exciting. What a boring world/website we would have if we all thought alike.

Your last quote "especially when it has turned out one of us was right (THAT WOULD BE ME)after all and the other wrong (THAT WOULD BE YOU!). JUST KIDDING LOL
 
You Know What...

...Makes me kind of sad here?

Chad has been around at least two of our members, who both say he seems to be a decent guy at heart. If it weren't for the histrionics, the manic posting style and the deception of sneaking back here after a ban, Chad probably would be as welcome a member as any.

Chad, if you're reading this, try settling your issues, and talking with Robert sometime after you've done that (though you should expect to be met with some skepticism there, mind you). That would be the best way to get what you want, which as I see it is to feel wanted, part of a circle of friends.

You do not have to have the most dramatic life anyone ever heard of to be noticed. Who you are is enough, and if you ever get to the point of understanding that, I suspect life will hand you more of what you want than you ever dreamed possible.
 
Todd,

It's funny, but you and PeterH., together with Hunter (who is not necessarily to be assigned a political direction) have done more to make me really think about my views through your courtesy than all those who whale on me will ever achieve.
 
Actually what lies has he been caught in this time, if that's the case.Just curious?

He was never granted permission for there to be a "This Time" in the first place as two years ago I told him he was banned from posting on this website ever again. When I ban someone and then they sneak back in under a new name or as in this case names that is a HUGE lie in my book. When I tell someone they are banned forever I mean it. Period.
 
Wasn't he known as EXPLODER321 before? I thought that name was appropriate for him as he kind of blew into the website and was pretty obnoxious in the way he worded his posts.

I thought he was originally from Georgia or the Carolinas. Remember the purchase of the condo, then the house, then no job, etc? I guess he relocated out west.

Anyway, I wish the tortured soul the best and may he realize that he needs therapy to make him realize that you can be a normal person and still count too.
 
Is there a narcissist in the house?

Gee, what a surprise! The world abounds with these characters and the biggest revelation is no one knows what kind a havoc they wreak until one has been around or involved in a relationship with one of these people. My ex-partner was this way--very charming, selfless, and loving early on in the relationship, then downright scary in the end with his vicious, possessive, and abusive behavior. What I failed to recognize (and what most people also fail to recognize) is that these people need the undivided attention of anyone who has paid them heed in some way. On the outside, they appear very amiable and successful, but on the inside, they are so deprived and hungry for acceptance that the minute someone turns their attention to something or someone else--even if it's for a very short while--they feel betrayed and insulted. All too often their overreactions result in mental and/or physical abuse, which can scar friends and partners for years or for the rest of their lives.

I couldn't visit or get together with any of my male friends for fear he would find out. If he did, he'd leave countless voicemail messages on my cell and home phones, accusing me of cheating on him and then threatening to do something stupid like kill himself. I always took the threats seriously and, in hindsight, I guess I was the gullible one. He played on my emotions each and every time and would always make it my fault. But, I loved him so much that I'd do what I could to make things right and keep the relationship intact. In the end, I caught him in his pathological lying and I told him it was over. I've since found out that his other fly-by-night boyfriends didn't handle the situation as judiciously because one tried to choke him to death with his bare hands and another threatened to beat the crap out him if he was ever sighted around town again.

I guess the moral of the story is always be on the watch for narcissists and pathological liars. But, even the most vigilant can be duped. Robert, thank you for your unwavering patience and containing the situation at a time you felt it most appropriate. My heart goes out to Chad because more often than not, people like him will eventually self-destruct. And there is no way to cure their mental illness short of intervention by God himself.
 

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