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I air-fry in my GE just using the convection setting and a 9x13 ish wire basket to lay the food one. Frozen fries in 17 minutes with no preheating.. What exactly does the Frigidaire air fryer actually do that the IKEA might not?

Actually hubby wanted one of those new air fryers because he was visiting his friend last month in Nova Scotia who had one.. So we have one of them now and I've been using it for fries and things. It takes about the same amount of time. I'll continue using it over the oven because it's probaby less expensive to operate and it may help in saving my stove not wearing out or going wonky .
 
Indeed the main reason induction has not caught on in the US

 

. . . is manufactures usually only have one model available and you can't get a white or all black model.

 

Mocked up a white one.  Stylistically, it works.  Emailed the suggestion to Frigidaire.  Now let's see if they use THEIR Frigidaire.


 

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Air Fry. versus Convection on Frigidaire induction stove

Hi Joe would you please do a test listen to find out if Air fry has a higher fan speed than convection bake. My 10 year old this month Electrolux slide in induction stove , purchased at Sears outlet as customer used return for 1/3 reg price, has a higher fan speed for convection roast and convection broil. They didn’t use the AirFry term back then. As an alternative to cooking on a paper towel you could cut from a cheap solid colour silicone baking sheet three small circles or other shapes to arrange as a tripod over perimeter of each burner to avoid pot movement and scratches on the ceramic glass top, I learned this from poster “Kaseki “ on ths.gardenweb/ now Houzz, works great and one sheet gives lifetime replacement supply as they eventually darken and scorch, they also keep the glass top cooler from the hot pot. Are you finding the cooktop performance totally to your liking? I agree that Frigidaire should be thanked and supported for bringing induction stoves to lower price point. I wouldn’t have bought except for finding almost new at bargain price.
 
And the truth comes out

Fascinating thread. I have to confess, that even with the options for mixing technology, I'm going to be sticking with the 30" 5 burner Thermador that John refurbished for me.

I had an induction hot plate for a while and wasn't completely wowed by it. That was around 2007.

However, I am open to new information. How do they compare efficiency wise? I suppose I could look that up myself.

Sarah
 
Hello Sarah!

I use two induction units, (3000 and 3500 watts) beside regular electric ranges for the reason of super efficient starts for cooking operations. I have never experienced difficulty controlling electric surface units, but forcing heat from a surface unit outside the pan is not as efficient as creating heat inside the pan itself, to say nothing of the speed of using a 3000 watt source of energy to create that heat inside of the pan or pot instead of a typical 1250 to 1600 watt 6 inch resistance heating element or up to a 3000 watt resistance unit for a larger pan. While the efficiency of an electric element is higher than a gas burner where the heat is rising up the sides of the pan, it is still less efficient to force heat into the bottom of a pan from a surface unit operating at full output than to create heat in the pan with an even more efficient energy source. This way, once a pan of frozen vegetables is boiling after just 2 to 4 minutes on the induction unit, it can be transferred to a classic Radiantube, Corox or Calrod set to low or simmer which also reduces stress on the older range parts. Most of the time, frying operations are just done on the resistance units. Because I use angel hair pasta, once the water is boiling on the induction unit, I add the pasta and turn down the heat because the pasta cooks in about 3 minutes. The pressure cookers come up to full pressure amazingly fast on induction, too. So there can be a role for for both methods. [this post was last edited: 11/6/2021-21:58]
 
"Air Fry. versus Convection on Frigidaire induction"

 

In Air-Fry the fan runs at full speed from preheat to finish.  When finished, the instructions recommend turning off the oven and standing to one side when opening the oven door.  Ditto for cracking the oven to check doneness.  In any mode, the oven light door switch pauses the fan.  In convection baking, the fan runs slower and cycles off and on from time to time.

 

Boiling water on a napkin was just the mandatory parlor trick.  I baby my appliances.  Oh, and EuroKera's website says to use a metal scraper to remove that first layer of burned on stuff from radiant cooktops.
 
Putting A Silicone Shield Under Pots On An Induction CT

I would not advise doing this and I am sure the range maker does not recommend it either.

 

Lifting the pot up slightly will make the over-temperature cut-off feature less sensitive and may also result in melting or burning the silicone shield not only making a mess on the CT and pan but producing toxic fumes as well.

 

My ICT looks like new after 33 years of pretty heavy use and barely has the slightest scratch or mark on the cooking surface, the Ceran glass is very durable and scratch resistant.

 

John L.
 
I hear a frequent comment of scratching on glass/ceramic cooktops both induction and resistance. I think it is most often used by the pro gas folks to try to disqualify any form of cooking other than an open fire with cast iron grates. Glass/Ceramic is as hard or harder than any cookware you place on it so it shouldn't ever scratch under normal use as long as it's kept clean. I suppose if one had sand on the cooktop and ground a cast iron skillet into it. I use single edge razor blades on my glass resistance cook top and they never scratch nor has any of my cookware.

Efficiency of induction vs resistance will be somewhat higher. The heat is more focused in the cookware with induction but there is some loss in the electronics and the coils. Of course for the energy you pay for gas is the lowest efficiency. It would be interesting to know what the total efficiency for electric vs gas cooking is taking into account generation and transmission losses. But in the grand scheme of things us home cooks really don't use that much energy to cook no matter the source.
 
Thanks

Thanks Tom,

I will definitely consider installing a small induction burner next to the traditional electric cooktop. Do they generally use 110 or 220 power?

Best,
Sarah
 
I haven't tried induction yet

However, this summer I got a new, and much loved and used, AIR FRYER oven.  
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My life is forever changed. lol

 

I wasn't even specifically looking for an air fryer oven, I was only looking to replace my old portable oven but thought why don't I try this air fry feature that I've heard about.  I had no idea what all the hoopla was.

 

I ordered it online and during the shipping time I watched some vids on how to use it and by the time it arrived I was so excited to try it.

 

Perfect food in half the time.  I haven't even tried all the recipes you see in the videos.  Just making the things I usually do is incredible.  I feel as though I'm a junior chef now.   lol.  Best $90 I've ever spent on a cooking appliance.  And so easy to keep clean.

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As for induction cook top

It seems like it's a great idea. 

 

Here's my stove.  I actually have two.  They both work fine but I haven't had the need for one of them for at least six months so its in the cabinet.  I mainly use it to melt butter for popcorn, sometimes make soup or beans, and sometimes to boil water for rice. 

 

Last winter, while in Florida, there were 3 nights when the temp was going to go below freezing.  I wanted to keep my potted plants from freezing so I put the plants under the patio table, put a tarp over it making a tent, and put one of these under there on low to keep it warm. And it worked.

 

I'd love to try the induction but: I don't think I can use my copper bottom Revere Ware pans on that from what I've read.  Also, how does it do with melting butter?  I can't have scorched butter.

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Good news and hopefully not bad news Bob

Just posed the question to our old friend Google and like the know-it-all our non-binary friend seems to be, it gave me what you see below.

 

I hope Bob that by "get rid of" your pans you meant box them up and put them in the garage.

 

Apparently, if one has a "converter disk" they can then use their non-metalic metal cookware.  I just checked and my pans fail the magnet test so if I'm going to keep them (yes I certain will as they aren't made anymore and are apparently going up in value) I would need to get a disk to make them work.  

 

I grew up with pans like these.  I think I've always had revere ware and except for an embarrassing  "Visions" experiment in my early 20s, I've never swayed from my revere ware.  Visions- It looked cool in the commercial but everything stuck to it and it scratched and distorted easy too.  

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induction burner for $50

It seems like I've seen them for even less.

 

I think though I could do double duty with this.  It could also work as a drone heli-pad.  What do you think?
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Yes, I boxed them up, but I got a nice tax deduction for donating them to Good Will. I knew they wouldn't work with induction and my opting for induction also involved safety as I got oolder and dealing with an induction disc under Reveware wasn't something I wanted to deal with, especially needing 2-4 burners simultaneously. And I"d had some pieces for 40 years at that point and I was getting tired of them and there were some sentimental pieces that my cousin didn't want of her grandmother's either. I love my Cuisinart MultiClad Pro never felt that way about my Revereware. It was a reasonablely price SS type of cookware that wasn't nonstick, which I detested.
 
Hello Sarah!
Have 20 amp 120 volt circuits run for anyplace you might want to use a 120 volt induction cooker. I was extremely lucky in that the people who redid my kitchen put in many duplex outlets above the counters with 4 outlets in each one and each of the 4 outlets is on its own 20 amp 120 volt circuit. Wonder worker Jeff_Adelphi wired my 240 volt outlet for the 3000 watt cooker from the legs of the terminal block in the back of my range. All I had to do was hold it at an angle to keep it from falling forward.

Have a wonderful weekend.
 
A few years ago, a friend loaned me a Nuwave induction cooktop. I used it once and was hooked after that. So much so, that 4 years ago I purchased a Frigidaire professional induction range. It was too expensive to install a gas line into the kitchen for a gas range, so this was my alternative. I am hooked on induction ranges. We sold the house that had the Frigidaire professional when we moved here to Florida. I replaced the Samsung electric glass cooktop with another Frigidaire, this time the gallery model. It's not as nice as the professional, but it still works pretty well.

Induction is the way to go if you were unable to have a gas range.
 
Induction was the only choice as far as I was concerned being in an all-electric house.
I held onto the original 1984 Hotpoint range until induction arrived on the scene, I really didn't want radiant heat glass top. Induction is so much safer too. I just wish Frigidaire offered another alternative to double oven induction ranges aside from GE and KitchenAid. Mike, that's qite a change from Nashville to Florida!!
 
Still using my Duxtop 1800W cooktop.  I'm not sure how many years it's been...5 maybe?  Tony got hurt in '17 and I had it before then.  I'm toying with running a 240V plug-in.  For our Thanksgiving meal we had to resort to using the 5 gas burners...too many things to do at once.  But I now have the black cutting board top back on the surface to cover the burners and keep the stove top clean.  It also gives me more usable counter space when not using the gas burners.
 
I've considered buying one of those high power (3600 Watts) burners but decided against it. My four burner single phase has a booster function that can be used on one burner only. The manual doesn't say anything about the power with that function. However it must be close to 3000 Watts. And I also have a single Ikea 2000 Watts burner. Given the fact that induction is way more efficient than traditional burners it's more than adequate. Even when suitable for induction, too much power can still damage a pot when used on too much heat. Some shops with cooking utensils warn against the use of a booster function. A lot of power is nice, to have available but in a lot of cases to be avoided too.
 
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