It happened yet again!

[combo52]

Plastic Is Not the Problem

No machine EVER made can spin at over 1000RPMs with an unbalanced mattress cover in it. The major failure is the machines inability to control it self.

 

The plastic outer tub in the WP built DD washers are very trouble free, in the thirdly years these machines have been around our company has replaced less than a dozen of these tubs. Compare this to the thousands of BD WP-KMs and Many MTs and GE-HP FF washers that we have scraped because they had badly rusted outer tubs.

 

Newer cars even have plastic suspension springs in them and major parts of engines are made of plastic.

 

[tolivac]

I don't know what it is about the drums in my area for the DD machines-the swap shop operator scraps them when they have the fine cracks in the tubs.Weird.The shop owner commented on that-he had less trouble with the metal tubs.If you need a DD machine in this area-that shop has plenty of good ones-he doesn't see the BD machines anymore.-and the shop says I wasn't the only one asking for them.

 

[DirectDriveDave]

Too bad that's all the way down in NC, I would certainly go there to have a look at them.

 

[logixx]

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[tolivac]

At this rate with LG washers crushing themselves and anything nearby-buy your next washer at your local appliance swap shop-go VINTAGE-at least those don't explode and crush themselves!

 

[gansky1]

Luxurious Garbage

Loading tips from LG to avoid unbalance conditions.
Make sure the lid closes easily. LOL.

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[ozzie908]

An even better tip !

Don't buy one !!

Austin

 

[peteski50]

LG!

LG sux - stay away!

 

[Whirlypoolie]

In one word? UNACCEPTABLE!

A comment from a newbie here at AW who just HAD to finally sign up upon seeing this one:

That LG TL in that YT video? I don't think that I have ever before seen an actual "unbalanced load" reaction in a TL to match that one.

Question: How does LG explain why their TLs hop AND rock back and forth (as if in a rocking chair) when unbalanced, not just side-to-side? All the other TL machines I have seen in my 55 years move almost exclusively side-to-side when a load is out-of-balance during the spin cycle. This is true even on less-than-level floors with the machine in need of leveling.

The obvious fact that these LG don't even shut themselves down and sound an alarm when the unbalanced load condition is that far advanced is also scary...and dangerous.

And where is the suspension and/or counterweights that should be there? If there are any springs, they frankly are too weak to do the job. I also see no indication that there are any counterweights built into in the LGs; the machine would almost certainly NOT rock back and forth and/or hop like that one if there were any.

I can see why some of these so-called "washers" flip over in "disgust" (ironic quotes very intentional here).

IMHO, that type of construction is unacceptable.

My OTHER Two Cents: LG's "How to Load" video is so patronizing it actually becomes laughable! They must think users are all stupid.

And how did they do it? Even LG got the "rocking" motion in the out-of-balance segments as seen IN THEIR OWN DEMO. Why the washer didn't flip? I have no idea...maybe some washers did and they had to do a lot of re-takes.

I cannot see how anyone can EVER be sure to load the thing so it won't go out-of-balance during the spin. My thory is that the old-fashioned agitator may well have helped with balancing the load by aiding the user in distributing the clothes when loading. It also seemed to help to guide the clothes toward the tub wall (for the most part) when the spin cycle started. In contrast, a wash plate/bottom impeller washer such as the LG top loader is obviously no good at either.

 

[DirectDriveDave]

Another thing I can never understand is the whole suspension system where it's like "I know, lets hang the tub from the top instead of actually supporting from the bottom!"

however, if someone could explain to me the possible benefits of doing it that way, i'd be interested in hearing them. [this post was last edited: 5/6/2012-18:29]

 

[combo52]

Top Hung Supension Systems In TL Washers

This is a very sound way to build a washer, WP BD machines did it his way for 40 years, GE FF washers did it for 34 years, and thier current TLs and just about ever other brand including all WP TL products do it from the top now, not to mention just about every suspended FL washer ever.

 

So I believe that the problem is LGs, but after all they just copy our stuff but they sure didn't test enough, LOL.

 

[mrb627]

WP BD

I don't recall any plastic in WP's BD suspension system.

And the cabinets were solid and heavy, not the tin found in machine's today.

Malcolm

 

[combo52]

Top Hung Supension Systems In TL Washers

The single most important part in WP BD washers was plastic, the machine would bang and crash all over the place without it, GE also had three plastic parts in the FF washers that made their suspension system possible, can you name them ?

 

[lebron]

single most important part in WP BD washers

These are comepletly uneducated guesses, but I will try

Bd's : the snubber

Ge's : the suspension pulleys

 

[autowasherfreak]

When I had my WP Cabrio for a brief time, I washed queen size comforters several times and never had a problem with it going out of balance. I used the Bulky cycle which reduced the spin speed to medium, once the cycle was finished I would do a spin only cycle on high to remove more water. I think the only time it ever went out of balance was when I was washing mop heads.

I even washed a king size comforter, however it was to large for the machine and really didn't get clean.

 

[combo52]

Top Hung Supension Systems In TL Washers

Tuttle you got it right, In most cases when plastic is substituted for metal parts in home appliances and automobiles it results in a better LONGER lived product.

 

[pulsator]

Interesting....

Something to note, it appears Whirlpool pulled that video of the Kenmore Oasis exploding... Something about a copyright claim lol

 

[macboy91si]

Plastic in Wp BD's

I thought the suspension rod balls were also plastic?

 

 

-Tim

 

[combo52]

WP Sunpseon Balls

Hi Tim, They are probably more a synthetic rubber, which might be considered a type of plastic.