It's a Norge - AC that is

[cycla-fabric]

Hi All, I was running errands yesterday and happened to stop by an estate sale to see what was for sale and if there was anything vintage. Well low and behold this one item caught my eye, and its looked very clean like it was hardly used. I inquired about it and was told that the lady of the house didn't like air conditioning and didn't use it, I was told it works fine, so I purchased it and brought it home. Take a look. It's a Norge by Fedders 5000 btu window ac made around 1971 (I checked and saw a picture of it in CR Magazine I have)check out the pics. Going to put it in the office window and use it this year.

Doug

 

[tomturbomatic]

I love window units. Congratulations!

Be sure to install a cut to fit filter over the intake fins to keep it nice and clean. Those rigid translucent filters let a lot of dust through so I always use the foam kind which trap a lot more crap. Dust becomes crap when you are trying to clean it out of the innards of an air conditioner.

 

[rp2813]

Wildly inefficient compared to a modern window unit, but that goes with the territory for anything vintage and better looking.

 

[combo52]

Nice Condition Fedders A/C

Norge and Fedders merged in the early 70s so this is a Fedders A/C.

 

It is neat to see one of these again in such good shape, back when these were built this was a low end A/C, the better units were just about anything else except brands like Welbuilt and Westinghouse was also pretty bottom of the line by the early 70s, these Fedders units usually were pretty rusty after a decade in a window.

 

John L.

 

[tomturbomatic]

When The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet broke with Hotpoint and Kodak, the show was sponsored by Norge and the American Gas Association, the appliances in the kitchen and laundry became Norges.

"If you watched The Adventures Of Ozzie And Harriet throughout the entire series run you probably noticed that much of the TV show was filmed in the family kitchen. That was no coincidence with the show’s main sponsor Hotpoint attempting to place its products in front of the show’s viewers.

Later in the series, there were more outdoor scenes. The cameras that were strung around everyone’s necks when they went outside were the product of Kodak. TV commercials and better product placement wouldn’t arrive on television for years to come. The TV show was about the family but where they interacted was all the result of the show’s major sponsors."

Quote from website www.trend-chaser.com linked below

https://www.trend-chaser.com/entertainment/the-first-show-of-its-kind-the-adventures-of-ozzie-and-harriet/?view-all&firefox=1

 

[norgeway]

RE Wildly inefficent

Not really, when you consider the air coming out of this will be 15 to 20 degrees colder than any new window unit, thus the compressor wont run nearly as much,,

 

[launderess]

Hotpoint did more than just product placement. Ozzie and Harriet also made commercials for Hotpoint appliances as well

 

[estesguy]

BTUs are BTUs, certified by AHAM, if older units have colder air coming from them, its likely the CFM was lower allowing the air to stay in the evaporator longer to have a lower temp when exiting the unit. You can't have colder air from an older unit while removing the same BTUs per hour as a newer unit.

 

[combo52]

Many Newer A/Cs actually Put Out Colder Air

Because of slower quieter fan speeds when used on lower speeds.

 

I have not heard of anyone saying their newer A/C units don't keep them properly cool and dry.

 

It is just like heating and A/C has always been, it is important to have properly sized and installed equipment for good comfort, and I can tell you from my personal experience my home is just as dry and comfortable as it always has been and I am using 1/2 the power per month that we did 20 years ago.

 

We used to hit 3000 KW of use at least 3 months each summer and I have not seen us use 1500 KWs in well over 10 years and I have the same number of refs and lights in use as we always have had.

 

John L.

 

[norgeway]

But for the coldest air ever

The old Carrier units that used 500 freon ,Yall can think what you want but most older units blew much colder air, this was especially true in car air conditioning, I remember a friend got in my 67 Fury once back in the 90s , the first thing he said was, great day, that air feels like ice ..well, thats the sign of real air conditioning.

 

[DADoES]

 
Automobile a/c is considerably oversized for the cu ft space based on normal parameters, except that's necessary because of no insulation & lotta glass and need/desire for quicker cooldown than is acceptable on other applications.

 

[arbilab]

In 77, dad's retired 67 Fury would literally ice the vents.  

60s GM (Harrison) air would too;  you HAD to turn it down or it got too cold for t-shirt and shorts.

 

[vacerator]

Chrysler Airtemp,

and all old R12 charged units froze you out of the car with shorts and a T shirt.
Chrysler used the York V compressor. Ford used a square Copeland or their own axi-radial unit until the mid 70's. Then some used a 12 piston axial one similar or sourced from Frigidaire, like the GM unit. Harrison made the evaporator, condensor, dryers, heater cores, and radiators. In 1977/78, GM began using a smaller yet just as efficient radial compressor for tighter packaging on the downsized cars.
Evaporator icing up can also be caused by a low charge. My '89 Taurus cooled great, but leaked water under the dash. I don't know if the charge was low. I would swith the A/C off for a bit to stop it.

 

[combo52]

Older auto A/Cs

Chrysler's V-2 compressor they built themselves York had nothing to do with them.

 

I never saw a 12 cylinder A/C compressor, that would be ridicules to manufacture and a lot of friction losses to operate, GM did build 5 and 6 cylinder compressors and they were power hogs on the engine as it was.

 

John L.

 

[vacerator]

Ok John!

Perhaps I don't recall the service manuals fully. It's been decades.
I thought maybe the Frigidaire had 12 small pistons like those tiny gas engines do for R/C model cars, boats and planes. The Frigidaire compressor was rather long.
If you can dream it, you can do it too!
GM had the best engineers and scientists in those days. They invented manyinnovations like "Magnequench". A process to hyperinduce magnets for starters, alternators, etc. enabling them to be smaller.

 

[norgeway]

Frigidaire AC

Auto compressors were 5 cylinders before 60, After 60 they were 6 cylinder, York built Fords AC Chryslers Airtemp built the big V compressor,