IT'S A SAD DAY........

[kenmore1978]

appliance sizes

A good example of how US and European engineers approached things differently. The US is used to doing things BIG, so I imagine the only thing "agreed" upon was to make appliances as big as possible and still fit through the doors of the typical house. Even so, some appliances had to have doors or handles removed in orer to get them into/out of houses. I've helped in many a house move where we've had to to do that to ranges and refrigerators.

 

[david]

The Politics of Laundry

Obviously these pols do not do their own laundry or dishes and probably don't know how. Yes I know there is a "water shortage" in some areas of the country. Not here in Louisiana where it rains perpetually. We have more water than you can shake a stick at (last year's total rainfall here was about 61 to 65 inches). Water, water everywhere! Here in Louisiana, we can wash with the most water gulping washers and dishwashers made-and not feel guilty. Oh not to waste water for God's sake, but to be sensible. If one wants to conserve his or her water usage, thats the person's business. But no government should be telling everyone across the board they have to do this and do that. Remember, that's what the commies and nazis were famous for.

 

[tolivac]

David: Exactly as you put it--As far as it goes for me-if the neighbors want to waste water on their lawn-thats their business since they are paying for their water bill.Same as for if they want to put xmas lights on all their trees-that their business.So called water shortages are more of LOCAL issues-not national ones.I think the minimal water-energy use appliances should be mostly marketed to those areas where water is expensive or scarce-same with electricity.In my area-you and me are in the South-the frequent rains make water use a non-worry.I don't flagrantly waste it though.Don't water my lawn as some neigbors do-saves in another thing-less mowing-you do consume fuel,oil,and generate pollution with the mower.I would like to know how well the FL machines sell in my area.-I did see one "return" at BB it was an LG-they marked it as an "open box" item.The drum in it looked dirty.They also had two Dyson vacs returned.Both of their dust cups looked well used-cloudy.All of the Returns were being sold at high prices.You might as well buy a new one out of the box.

 

[david]

A-men, brutha Tol!

Oh yeah, everything you said I'm in agreement with. Those LGs sure are nice looking washers and dryers (not to mention those fridges!), Kinda wonder maybe if the folks who returned them are disappointed in what they have in the way of cycle times, etc. I don't know of anyone who personally owns one, do know some duet owners who seem pleased. I think people like those kind of machines around here, because they are the "latest and the greatest", not necessarily for water and energy consv. I was in BBandB the other day and there was a Dyson demo on DVD going-the guy smacked the dust-bin part hard with a club of some sort and it didn't break. But it is a relatively expensive vacuum. I would have to use one to see if I liked it or not. Many years ago we owned an Airway Sanitizer, which was one of the best vacs ever built and the best I ever used. It reminds me of a good shop vac. Those were the days, my friend! Back to LG, the gaskets will mildew on any of the FL's, in humid climates like mine and yours, people just naturally know to use a little bleach on a damp rag and wipe the gasket down after use for the day and to leave the door cracked for ventilation. I had that figured out even before CR said it, as I'm sure most people did. Its' common sense! Whoa! Chlorine should not hurt the gasket in a small quantity, just enough to wipe clear of mildew.

 

[tolivac]

David: Have seen the LG TV-Fridge as well-neat machine-but--As I and other BB shoppers who were looking at it said-"why not just buy a regular fridge and just put a TV on top of it?"I don't know if folks around here are real tech minded or not.I haven't seen the Dyson DVD vac demo-will have to ask at the BB near me to see if they have it and can run it for me.Would think it would be at their Dyson display.Finally got one as a trade in toward a TriStar-Was the "yellow" DC07 model.Tried it-was not real impressed--and yes the filter in it can get clogged just like a regular bag if you pick up too much "fines" with it-the cyclones will not filter very fine materials.Any of my Kirbys,Royals,TriStars could outdo the Dyson.I don't look at the Dyson as a $500 vac-should be priced at $200 instead.The removable air path blockage clear ports could be a an air leakage and dust leakage problem.the airpath on the machine is too long-that why it needs the 12A motor!The TriStar can do the same thing with an 8A motor.I too like the AirWay Sanitizer vacs-excellent machine-those should have a more aggressive marketing-either DTD or dealer sales.They are the only vac maker that makes a truely HEPA certified disposable vac bag!They own the equipment that makes the paper used in their bags.It would be worth it to you to get another. Any of the Air Way machines were fantastic.Put any of todays plastic models to shame.Their system of equalizing air pressure on the bag is unmatched by any other vac builder other than TriStar-Compact.Also I agree on wiping the FL washer gasket with a bleach dampened rag or sponge to prevent mildew.-as well as leaving the door open.I suppose the open door can provide a problem with folks that have cats or toddlers.They may want to crawl inside!I would think you could dry the boot with a rag or paper towel after wiping it with the bleach.Mildew-a continuing problem for us that lives in the South!Was also bad in the Northern VA area-a house in a neighborhood not far from mine in Manassas had to be CONDEMMED because of it-was the toxic type.

 

[david]

Hello Tolivac

Oh I agree; those plasty-vacsLOL are pretty disgusting, but I guess it reflects on the cheapness of the quality in today's appliances. Government regs, corporate profits, etc. I'm about ready to turn Amish!

 

[westytoploader]

No plasti-vacs here

Everyone uses vintage vacuums here.

The ones that get the most use are (in order of use)

1. Blue 1978 Hoover DAM
2. Orange 1975 Hoover DAM
3. Sanitaire SC899 Upright
4. 1970 Hoover Convertible 1020
5. 1980's Eureka 630D
6. Late 1970's Hoover Quik-Broom
7. 1970's Kenmore Hand Vac
8. Hoover Junior

--Austin

 

[DADoES]

Austin, what do you recommend as a good NON-vintage quick-broom type of cleaner? Half my house is tile and I'm not gonna feel like pushing a straw broom around the place on a regular basis. Pulling out the Hoover Celebrity also isn't particularly convenient for a quick clean-up.

 

[westytoploader]

Vintage rules...but...

While the last stick vacs I bought new were a Singer and Eureka SuperBroom Brush Up from 1996 (yep, when I was 8!), The Sanyo Roto-Sweep looks like a good solution, if you don't mind ordering. Best Buy might have it, though. Here's the link to the Roto-Sweep...seems pretty impressive.

If you can't find that, the Hoover Flair Bagless is another good bet. The fact that they discontinued their previous stick vac design, with a version made exclusively for hard floors (with a special nozzle) is a bummer; I would have recommended it. I know you would rather have new, but if you can't find anything you like, check eBay for a vintage Quik-Broom (look for the hard case with no soft bag) in good condition.

Btw, can you take a picture of your Celebrity? I had an orange early 1980's Celebrity III for a short time before I sold it on eBay.

--Austin

http://www.sanyo.com/appliances/vacuum_cleaners/stick/index.cfm?productID=892