jerrod6
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MRB's explanation makes sense
kenmore direct drive lint
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Actually I'm not so sure about that. The filter is under the drum right? When the machine starts spinning fast like supposed, it would mean the water moves outward, especially in the inner basket. If the lint would be redeposited on the laundry, the lint would have to get back through the tiny holes in the wash basket while there are centrifugal forces moving the water outward through those same holes. That doesn't make sense to me.
Parts diagram does not show a filter. Some direct-drive machines toward the end of production did not have a filter. The Catalyst I have does not.
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mrb627
You are plenty smart and can articulate that well too.
You are plenty smart and can articulate that well too.
Neutral drain systems
The lint is not flushing off the filter on the whirlpool and going back into the tub Lewis is right on this one Malcolm is not, sorry Malcolm
The lint is not flushing off the filter on the whirlpool and going back into the tub Lewis is right on this one Malcolm is not, sorry Malcolm
Now that I think of it, the 2003 Whirlpool Gold GSQ9669L I have also has no filter.
Linting DD
Honestly, I don't think its the neutral drain but the ultra fast, short strokes which are the root cause of it. I remember over and over being lectured by Sears employees to never buy a single speed Kenmore because it will "chew up" clothes. Sears made sure the normal cycle never dropped a single high speed agitation sequence. In fact at one point in time even Whirlpool badged machines would switch to slow speed about half way to 2/3 through the normal cycles.
At first I never believed Kenmore relabeling the delicate cycle to normal (only thinking it was marketing 'hey, we have a heavy duty cycle others do not') but having used the Heavy Duty cycle thinking I could outsmart Sears and a Whirlpool which did fast on the normal cycle; I can confidently say that Whirlpool machines have to the the roughest by far on the market. Slow speed IS normal speed for a DD. Also for some reason new VMW Whirlpool agitator washers will pulse the agitator while filling.
Maytag DC on the other hand had extremely delicate agitation on high speed and relied more on water movement. Simply put the machines were not as rough and thus less linting.
New Speed Queens will most likely neutral drain because the design forces a separate pump- that and Id imagine spin draining would cause the items to bunch up on one side.
Honestly, I don't think its the neutral drain but the ultra fast, short strokes which are the root cause of it. I remember over and over being lectured by Sears employees to never buy a single speed Kenmore because it will "chew up" clothes. Sears made sure the normal cycle never dropped a single high speed agitation sequence. In fact at one point in time even Whirlpool badged machines would switch to slow speed about half way to 2/3 through the normal cycles.
At first I never believed Kenmore relabeling the delicate cycle to normal (only thinking it was marketing 'hey, we have a heavy duty cycle others do not') but having used the Heavy Duty cycle thinking I could outsmart Sears and a Whirlpool which did fast on the normal cycle; I can confidently say that Whirlpool machines have to the the roughest by far on the market. Slow speed IS normal speed for a DD. Also for some reason new VMW Whirlpool agitator washers will pulse the agitator while filling.
Maytag DC on the other hand had extremely delicate agitation on high speed and relied more on water movement. Simply put the machines were not as rough and thus less linting.
New Speed Queens will most likely neutral drain because the design forces a separate pump- that and Id imagine spin draining would cause the items to bunch up on one side.
Correction
*Spin drain
*Spin drain
There is logic to the DD linting problems. The holes at the bottom of the tub near the agitator allowing wash/rinse water to be recirculated back into the inner tub with the loose lint being dislodged off the filter during the spin/drain cycle.
As the load is spun, the water pressure at the base of the tub is increasing while the tub is picking up speed, this is forcing water to backwash the lint filter and as the water level getting lower during pump out, lint is being reintroduced back onto the load from the holes at the bottom of the tub.
As the load is spun, the water pressure at the base of the tub is increasing while the tub is picking up speed, this is forcing water to backwash the lint filter and as the water level getting lower during pump out, lint is being reintroduced back onto the load from the holes at the bottom of the tub.
Neutral Drain WP DD Washer
Hi Larry, the lint will not come off the lint filter and go up through the bottom basket holes for several reasons
1 this washer does not have a basket mounted filter.
2 the spinning water is being thrown out the side and bottom holes.
3 the amount of lint collected by these basket mounted filters is almost as insignificant as what is collected on a MT washers lint filter.
John L.
Hi Larry, the lint will not come off the lint filter and go up through the bottom basket holes for several reasons
1 this washer does not have a basket mounted filter.
2 the spinning water is being thrown out the side and bottom holes.
3 the amount of lint collected by these basket mounted filters is almost as insignificant as what is collected on a MT washers lint filter.
John L.
John, you are right!
I saw DD, not the model # and made an anus of myself generalizing that Sears did away with tub mounted lint filters for that era of washing machines.
Thanks for enlighting me!
I saw DD, not the model # and made an anus of myself generalizing that Sears did away with tub mounted lint filters for that era of washing machines.
Thanks for enlighting me!
mhorn
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washer fix update
since everything works on washer except the neutral drain,, i took trans apart, i did not see anything broken,, i chickened out on fixing old trans,,, i put in a new trans and ......... its works great,, neutral drain works, and what a differnce on the lint mom washed two loads of clothes back to back and she said i got my washer back like it was new,, so from someone that has washed alot with whirlpool direct drive since early 90's and then second washer 2006 she and i now know if you hang clothes on line and you want no lint you must have a neutral drain on the top loader whirlpool/ kenmore washer working thanks
since everything works on washer except the neutral drain,, i took trans apart, i did not see anything broken,, i chickened out on fixing old trans,,, i put in a new trans and ......... its works great,, neutral drain works, and what a differnce on the lint mom washed two loads of clothes back to back and she said i got my washer back like it was new,, so from someone that has washed alot with whirlpool direct drive since early 90's and then second washer 2006 she and i now know if you hang clothes on line and you want no lint you must have a neutral drain on the top loader whirlpool/ kenmore washer working thanks
