Kenmore Ultra Fabric Care Washer

[blockeight88]

Good evening,

I am curious about Kenmore's 1995 Ultra Fabric Care washing machine. The machine has recently become a new obsession. I am curious about how this machine compares to its counterparts. How does the black model compare to the white one? How rare are these? Do they do a full warm rinse? I see they offer a "hot/warm" option and the ones with the more rounder looking knobs doesn't. The final picture appears to have ATC, which if I am correct, tempers the warm rinse to around 75 degrees. Do the other machines do this as well? I would really love to know more about these. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[DADoES]

 
Your first pic is a dryer.

The white washer does not have ATC but may limit the warm rinse for Warm/Warm to a warm spray in the final spin with the agitated rinse being cold.  Depends on the specific model's programming.  Warm non-ATC probably is mixed 40% tap hot 60% tap cold via the inlet valve proportions.

The almond washer with ATC choices may provide 100°F for warm washes, 75°F for warm rinse, and 70°F for cold wash (cold rinse is probably tap-cold).  I have a version that's probably slightly older (late 1999) and states those temps in the ATC section.

 

[70series]

That washer is exactly like the one my parents bought in August of 1999. Model # was 110.20902 in white.

 

[jmm63]

Kenmore 90 series

best washer I ever had. Bought new in 1999 with matching gas dryer. Sorry I ever got rid of it.

 

[blockeight88]

Thank you y’all for your replies. Sorry for posting the dryer. I meant to post the washer version. So really the main differences between this one and the later model is the warm rinse? Did any do a full warm rinse, like 50/50?

Is the white model, the one branded as “Ultra Fabric Care” pretty easy to find?

 

[lovestowash]

90 Series

3 speeds plus Intermittent...best washer I ever had...forced to replace with LG stack when I moved to Florida...dark day...

 

[DADoES]

 
A 3-speed motor is preferable over 2-speed regards to whichever models you may find for selection.

Hot + cold mix proportion for warm depends on the physical design of the water valve.  The workarounds are 1) replace a 40/60 valve with a compatible 50/50 assembly, or 2) drill-out the flow restrictor in the hot side.  ATC doesn't control the mix proportion, it switches between full-hot, full-cold, and warm to attain an average flow temperature around the target temperature.

 

[blockeight88]

Water Inlet

Interesting. I thought the control panel controls the warm water rinse. So where could one find a 50/50 warm water mask inlet valve? Do you have a part number?

 

[appnut]

My 1986 DD LK had true warm washes and warm rinses.

 

[DADoES]

Bob, the water valve has equal flow-rate for hot and cold?

 

[appnut]

As best as I could tell. Remember since this was the first year of the new DD and included ATC, there were no non-ATC temps. If I wanted a wash higher than 140, I'd turned up the water heater to highest temp--155 or so and turn off the cold water tap so that it didn't temper the water down to 140. Warm was still about what I'd been used to all my life, 95-100F. Cold was 60-70F???

 

[blockeight88]

So with the 1995 Kenmore Ultra Care Fabric washer does that include a true warm rinse?

 

[DADoES]

 
The only sure way to know the details on how a given model handles temperatures is by hands-on testing or info from someone else who has usage experience with the exact model ... or maybe by finding a tech sheet for it.

 

[blockeight88]

Ok makes sense. The current Kenmore DD washer I have is from 2000 and alternates between 50/50 and straight cold for the rinse, either when it's set to Warm/Warm or ATC Warm/Warm.

I was under the impression that this came later, as energy laws began to go into effect. So you are saying the washers from the late 80s and early 90s tempered the warm rinse?

 

[blockeight88]

Here is a model number from a similar white Ultra Fabric Care machine (as pictured above)

11092588210

 

[appnut]

When I set to either Hot/Warm or Warm/Warm, the warm rinse was always a straight shot warm. In the winter, when set for cold rinse, (and this is Texas), it would constantly inject warm water to make sure it didn't have too cold of rinse water. Sometimes drove me nuts.

 

[DADoES]

 
ATC at that time, of course, was more to keep cold and warm temps from falling too low vs. later/nowadays moreso for dumbing warm and hot down.

The model cited in Reply 14 does have ATC per the parts diagrams.

 

[blockeight88]

This is what I am after. As seen in this video, the machine has ATC and is set to warm/warm (ATC). The rinse appears to be 50/50. The later models seem to be missing the Hot/Warm option.

 

[repairguy]

As Glenn stated above, the ATC controls the mix of hot and cold to maintain a factory setting. If you set it to non ATC warm/warm or hot/warm on the model in the video it should give you a warm rinse with a mix of cold and water heater hot water with the amount of each depending on how the water valve was built.

Whirlpool part number 285805 is the replacement valve for this machine and it provides a great warm water mix and with decent water pressure the machine fills as in the video.

I think sometime in the late nineties warm rinses went away. On the early to mid 2000 models the washer may have had a warm/warm option but warm rinse wasn’t allowed with hot wash and a lot of the time the warm rinse option only changed the last 2 spin spray rinses to warm and the deep fill rinse was cold.

The washer in the video is a 1992 model by the way.