KitchenAid HE Dishwasher Inside View and More

[logixx]

Found this video of a current KitchenAid online. Nice wash action.



And this is very cool: they put a pizza in there (and a Burrito).

Some observations:
- It seems they ended the cycle after the wash, as there are only two fills (prewash and wash).
- There was also no detergent added.
- I wonder why the dishwasher didn't add extra water when the pump stopped sucking in water. I know load-sensing machines would have added more water until they sensed a uniform pump speed.
- Seems this filter design doesn't allow for any larger particles (dough) to pass through to the drain pump.

I'd really like to try that with my dishwasher. It sucks stuff like peas, corn etc. out during the drain sequence and flushes the system, if needed.

 

[mrb627]

UnFair!

Doesn't seem to be a fair challenge without some detergent put into use.

Malcolm

 

[henene4]

So much about "garden sprinkler"...

I mean, though the cycle was obviously not appropiate to the soil level, it did a pretty good job.
Oh, and, I guess the myth about the lack of spray pressure in HE DWs is finaly busted. I mean, "barely hitting the top of the tub" looks completly different in my opinion.
And recognized it got a manual clean filter?

 

[jerrod6]

Does Ka still use the 4 way hydro sweep arm? You know - never satisfied - I would like to see the water circulation when DW's are fully loaded.

We've seen how older Ka with the blue arm circulate water in a real life situation. I would like to see an EU Bosch or Miele do this same thing with a pizza and if not with that at least see how these models look inside while spraying water - in real life, not from one of these manufacturers advertising videos.

Even if the view was thru plexiglass that would still be interesting.

 

[washerdude]

My kenmore operates both spray arms and the bottom arm hits all the way to the top with no issue. These are good machines and i think these could last a pretty long time.

 

[logixx]

Yes, KitchenAid still uses the HydroSweep, although it's now more shaped like an X versus the old +.

 

I would like to see an EU Bosch or Miele do this same thing with a pizza

 

But Jerrod, you know how to set your LaPerla to EU mode via the service menu - go ahead then! ;-D Click the link below to see a Miele spraying with door removed:

 

[jkbff]

If I had a way of getting a clear shield for my Maytag, I'd be curious to see how all the arms running and having a food disposer in the unit would tackle that burrito and pizza... .... That almost seems depressing...

 

[pekedogs]

Burritos and pizza

If I remember correctly, Whirlpool used to do something along these lines with a pound of coffee grounds and a pizza in their dishwasher to show how well their filters worked. It must have been in the early to mid 70s or so. I was always impressed with how well their machines worked.

I have a Whirlpool portable that I got at the local St. Vinnie's about 5 years ago and I think it is an early 80s model. Had the tall blue tube in the middle that sprays into the upper spray arm. It isn't a very deluxe machine, but it works like a champ.

I find that the Cascade pods work well but I add some regular Dollar General powder to the first wash cup because the whole cycle, W-R-W-R-R-D only takes aout 35 to 40 minutes. I don't use the heat option or heated dry. Only paid $35 for it. My partner rigged it so it works like a built-in.

 

[frigilux]

"Each year your dishwasher runs nearly 200 cycles."

That's adorable. Mine runs closer to 600 cycles.

 

[frigilux]

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[frigilux]

Apologies for the boo-boo post above.

No plans to put a burrito, pizza or cake in the GE...but it sure is fun to see what happens in the videos!

 

[roto204]

Wow

1.)  Dude.  He *ate* the burrito.

 

2.)  Eugene, I'm going to start sending you machines for durability and long-term road testing.  

 

[henene4]

But...

... they forgot to scrape before loading xD

 

[whitetub]

this one is filmed with a GoPro camera. I think we should all get one and start filming our loads

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZp98DG1I2g

 

[whitetub]

And this is the old style KitchenAid washing action....

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clb5299Ps0A

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Am I the only one not finding anything impressive in that pizza and mexican burriton thing?
My indesit and any proper machine would chew that pizza if not lift it up directly in seconds seriously how can someone find those lazy sprays that good?
It took alot just to wet it...see fractions in the video and it's not even an italian pizza but an american style spongy one that melts like butter as it meets water.

And in both videos you clearly see those sprays don't really reach everywhere and are lazy!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

And those kind of small holes and jets don't do the same of a large one... it just tickles the stuff.

 

[foraloysius]

The test is simply useless, you're not alone in this. There are way better ways to test the performance of a dishwasher.

Here is a video about testing dishwashers:



Tiny sprays aren't that bad. It's not the power of the spray that cleans the dishes but the combination of detergent and temperature of the water. It's different from a washing machine, where the mechanical action is part of the process. That's why dishwasher detergents are way stronger than laundry detergents.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Back when the Whirlpool Power Scour cycle for pots and pans was introduced, they would put a Whopper or Big Mac still in the paper wrapper in the lower rack and the dishwasher would eat the whole thing without even belching at the end of the cycle.

 

[combo52]

Uncooked Pizza Etc In A DW

This is one of the most ridiculous demonstrations I have ever seen, the only thing it shows is how messy filter type DWs can get, Leaving Cheese behind really.

 

Hi Louis, Water pressure, delivery, spray patterns are really important and one of the three most important parts of great DW performance, In fact I have never seen a DW that did a great job with weak spray patterns and poor distribution. All things being equal the bigger the jets and the higher the pressure the better the DW will work.

 

John L.

 

[murando531]

Neither of those videos demonstrated anything to me other than what I already know about these machines, and I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. It's humorous that AV, or whatever these people call themselves, considered this a win on the dishwasher's side. Hell, the thing took the full hour just to get it out of the rack, only because it had been soaking wet long enough to break down the dough, and for the last sped-up 30 minutes, the machine couldn't even spray water because of the clogging. The PowerClean, or any dishwasher worth having, would have disentegrated the thing during the prewash and it would have been down the drain where it belonged.

 

[foraloysius]

John,

Pressure on it's own never has removed baked on stuff. It's the chemicals that remove that. I understand why so many people like lots of water in dishwashers, it makes them faster indeed. But in the end it boils down how much water with detergent is sprayed on the dishes. Modern dishwashers do that with less powerful sprays but for a longer time. I'm probably cursing in the church here, but many modern dishwashers do a good job, it is the same as in the past, there were good and there were not so good dishwashers.

 

[retro-man]

Did a load of dishes yesterday in my 2 year old Whirlpool tall tub. Normal wash with hi temp washing and heated dry. Used powdered Cascade complete in both cups. Everything came out spotless. Ok here is the kicker, the dishes had sat dirty in the dishwasher for 5 weeks. Pasta bowls, frying pan and assorted dishes and glasses. Between snow storms every weekend and having the flu was not able to get to this house for that long. Was supposed to be back the following week to run it but time got away. Very please with newer Whirpool dishwashers. Cycle time was around 1 1/2 hours. We have extremely hot water here in this building. I am sure a vintage machine would have done this also, but the newer ones work well I am finding as well.

Jon

 

[washer111]

Placing a whole pizza or other food item in the dishwasher is unrealistic - not many, if any people would manage to put that much soil on dishes. When dealing with such a mess, isn't is obvious that the filter will get clogged?

Washing a more realistic load, with soils of varying types (proteins, tomato, grease, fine particles) is a far better way to test the performance of a dishwasher. In this case, the (hopefully) high temperature will disintegrate larger particles of food, where they are collected in the filter, and typically flushed away by the wash arm.
The filter then self-cleans furthermore during the drainage cycle.

Given the reports of barely tepid washing temperatures in American machines, is it little wonder the filters might be more prone to clogging? The high temperature action found in European machines, as I said before, helps to disintegrate the largest particles into mush (soup), which can be safely flushed away. Of course, insisting on short cycles and low temperatures won't help.

That said, however, our resident member Frigilux (Eugene) has clearly demonstrated there is no issue with using filter machines on very dirty loads. He has reported no significant collection of food stuffs, if at all on the filters on his recent GE machine.

In my own experience, using the shorter, cooler cycles does result in additional buildup within the filters of the DishDrawer. While dishes still come out clean, it may not be particularly reassuring if you don't pay a lot of attention to the filters. Using longer, hotter cycles frequently seems to prevent buildup, and this seems to parallel what other members with these machines have suggested (or members whose machine's programming features high temperatures and 1-2 extra water changes by default).

 

[frigilux]

I've had the GE for over a year and have never had to clean the large flat filter screen on the floor of the machine. The cylindrical filter gets a quick rinse under the faucet every 2-3 weeks---and there's never much on it. I was not looking forward to owning a dishwasher with a manual-clean filter, but it's been no trouble at all.

Having said that, I read somewhere there's a self-cleaning filter (as opposed to having a grinder) on some forthcoming machines.