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gansky1

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I brought my KDS-18 dishwasher down to the basement today for a test run before installing it in the kitchen in a few weeks. I had this dishwasher in the garage but not connected for a long time so I want to make sure everything is perfect before putting it into a brand-new kitchen. I've decided to use this machine instead of buying a new dishwasher for several reasons. The first is the frightening thread in the Deluxe forum on "Today's Dishwashers" that in summary means that unless you spend roughly a grand (or two) you won't get the performance (and speed) that some of the vintage machines deliver with ease. While it's true that we will use more water and energy with the KitchenAid, I will still only run it a few times a week so the cost vs. savings is rather a moot point. The other reason is because I have been using my KDS-56 and KDS-55 portables in the basement these long months of remodeling hell and have come to love the ability of these machines. Even with dishes that have sat for days, the Soak & Scrub cycle blasts everything away with obvious ease. If I had a built-in version of the 16 or 17 series, I might consider installing it, but there are advantages to the 18 series as well. The double wash arms (and constant rinse) allow for much more loading flexibility than the single-arm models, the cycles of the 18 series are very similar to those in the 16 & 17's without sacrificing the 180F sani-rinse and we still have a heated dry. I considered replacing the 800 watt drying element with an 1100 watt element from a 16 or 17, but am finding that 800 watts still gives adequate performance without the damaging heat in the back right corner of the lower rack. Of course, the drying heat can be shut off if desired with the energy saving option. With any drying element or option, there will still be small puddles in the bottoms of cups, etc. and rarely will plastics dry completely - especially in the top rack.

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A bit of the parts stash...

I found a bad drying fan motor and replaced the original water valve as it was a bit crusty from lime and hard water. I've run several cycles with Glass Magic to clean up some of the cloudy film on the porcelain. I'll pick up some of the citric acid dishwasher cleaner when I'm at the store next, but this works pretty well too and has a nice chlorine scent ;-)

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Now for what to do about the front panels. I'm thinking of taking them down to a sheet-metal works and having stainless cut for the front. It would match the refrigerator and the aluminum trim of the 57 GE range very well but certainly not as interesting and conversational as an enormous boob (see pic) but can't seem to find a picture large enough to paste on the front. It would be fun though...

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That is absolutely beautiful!

Looks nice Greg, that will be an awesome addition to your new kitchen!
 
I really tried to talk my sister out of letting this exact model go. It was in her house when she bought it about 20 years ago. She insisted it wasn't getting her dishes clean and was leaving black particles on things. A major part of the problem was that she hardly ever used it. I know I could have managed a fairly easy fix with some advice from other AW members, but she's 400 miles away and she was just plain over the KA and wanted to replace it.

So she got a Bosch and the KA went out on the curb. Needless to say, somebody who presumably knew what it was spotted it and it was gone in no time.

Mandy, that machine will be a beautiful addition to your kitchen. And a very capable addition as well. Enjoy it!

Ralph
 
Efficiency vs. life vs. use.

I like that Kitchen Aid!! Use it well, for a good long time.

I think that many of the contemporary "energy efficient" dishwashers (and washing machines) aren't really energy efficient at all! When considering how much energy and resources are used to manufacture a machine, transport it from factory to your house, install it, and dispose of the old one; how much energy would a new machine have to save during use over how long a period of time in order to save any energy upon comparison to keeping an existing machine? Sadly, so many new machines are so poorly engineered/built (shoddy materials don't help either) that their usable life is too short to realize any energy savings.
As for convenience, there is something to be said for short, but effective, cycle times. Why bother to have an automatic appliance if it isn't reasonably speedy? Furthermore, regarding miserly use of water and a few other things, why have an automatic appliance if it doesn't do a good job at its intended function? I don't care how energy efficient a dishwasher is unless it thoroughly cleans my dishes and has flexible racking to hold my variety of dishes and things.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. If it is broke, then fix it!
Dave
 
Fabulous choice Greg and the 18 will look so much nicer than a plastic or fake stainless steel modern dishwasher. Oh and I agree with Jon, go for a giant pec!
 
Hey

That's the same machine I'm going to pick up from Coldspot. I think I'm going to make that one into a portable. Gotta Love those older KitchenAids. They'll take the rust off a Trailer Hitch. I bought an Energy Saver IV brand new in 81. Outstanding Cleaning Performance.
News Flash about the KD2-P...stevet called today and ordered the new drain valve et al should be here next week. I can't wait to have the Big Blue Wash Arm and a 4-way HydroSweep side by side.
 
So a new GE dishwasher isn't in the works? ;-)

This 18 series KA is just stunning! What a great choice for the kitchen - I can just see it draped in oak and black granite right now....

My vote is for the boob.

Ben
 
Man, you are all making me feel guilty!

I feel like I would be killing my best friend if I take my 18 out of our kitchen and replaced it with the KUDP02IRWH2.
I have another 18 in the garage now and gave it a try the other night and it needs a blower motor of which I have the really heavy duty HOBART not Kitchenaid replacement motors for as well as new door hinges and another motor as the top bearing is getting noisy. I do have the spare bearings already but in the interest of time I will toss another whole pump into it.Or maybe really go hog wild and drop in a 21 pump assy and a separate drain pump too. I love to juice these units up!
 
Gansky.. lots of spares there

Gansky, I see you have a whole bunch spares for the old machines in boxes like I do but I no longer have such exotica(with an "x") as the hot air blower you have for the 14 and down units!
I also noticed that you had put in some new stuff on the 18 like the detergent dispenser and the matching white nuts for the rinse dispenser. they look good..even better than the blue ones! WOw! even a soap dispenser there for a 15-16 unit!I was just talking about that to Andrewinorlando on Sunday. Ahhh..simplicity in design. Your box is like mine.. maybe even find Waldo in there somewhere!
 
YAY Greg, I think you have made the best possible choice. Of course if you would rather trade that beauty for an almost new GE we should talk!!!LOL
 

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