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A friend bought a house recently and I went to see it today. During the tour stop in the kitchen I spotted the dishwasher and immediately went over to it to inspect. The inside is pristine and I told my friend that this is a great dishwasher.
My friend replied it doesnt work, dishes come out dirtier then when they go in and we are getting rid of it. Besides the service guy that came out to look at it told me that its way to old to fix and parts arent available.

I said let me see whats wrong with it. I started it, the motor ran and it began to fill. I was kinda figuring that with the age, the fill valve might be clogged and a low water level could be the problem. It filled completely but there was very little water action sound. I stopped it, started it again and heard the initial water blast, then nothing.

Investigating a little more, I removed the wash arm and took out the fine screen filter. When I looked at the filter it was totally covered with accumulated crud, and infact you could not even see light thru it. I put the wash arm back in, closed the door and hit the button. The KA roared to life with water action. My friend said, it never sounded like that. Obviously the crud was enough to starve the pump. After a good soaking and scrub the filter looked like new and it was reinstalled. The DW ran perfectly, and as a further tuneup the clogged wash arm jets were cleaned out.

I then looked at the pile of dishes in the sink and said to my friend watch what this DW will do to these dishes. I put the dishes in without rinsing them off and let the KA do its thing. About an hour later I showed my friend the proof... a spotless load of dishes.

But here is my real question about this DW. It pauses alot for water heating which in the scheme of things is really not necessary, as the water in the house is about 140. So if I bypass the thermostat, do you think that would cause any problems? I dont think so, but I would like some comments from the KA experts before I would do this.

Thanks for your help

 
KDS 19 WATER HEATING

You would save money on water heating by turning your water down to 120, but if you don't want to or can't turn down the water heater down bypassing the thermostat that delays the timer on the dishwasher is an excellent idea. I have bypassed many delay heating thromostats on KA dishwashers where people didn't want all the delayed water heating and the machine will still work well and last longer.
 
It pauses alot for water heating which in the scheme of things is really not necessary

Sounds like someone used the "Pots and Pans" cycle, lol. No need for that cycle! The "Normal" wash cycle will take care of 99% of your needs: Fill, Preheat, wash, drain, fill, wash, drain, fill, wash, drain, fill, main wash, drain, rinse, sani rinse (pre-heated), dry.

If your have a REALLY dirty load and want a pre-rinse before the first heated fill, use the "Heavy" cycle.

As the water in the house is about 140.

It may be 140F at the water heater, but by the time it gets to the tap, it's at least 15-20F cooler. Once the water hits the cold porcelain cabinet, that's even less temp. By now, you're probably sitting at about 100F or less. The temps gets even lower when the water starts being thrown around the cabinet and dishes.
 
KDS - 19

My family had a KDS - 19 for about 25 years. It was a good machine but you needed to use jetdry to make sure you got excellent results for drying. The 1st water fill took about 15 minutes to heat and for the last rinse about 8 minutes. Always spotless results. These water heating delays on the 19 series heated the water to 150.
Peter

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I"d leave it alone too. it was designeed to function a certain way. Peter, do you have the cycle & feature comparison chart you can scan? Thank you.
 
do you have the cycle & feature comparison chart you can scan?

I found a KDS-19 for my buddy a few months back and when he picked it up, it came with all of the original paperwork and manual. I'll try to scan all 18 pages within the next couple of days.
 
KDS-19

Cool brochure, Peter. All I have experience with are the 20s. Are there certain features about the 19s and 18s that are worth looking into?
 

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