lg front load inner workings

[iheartmaytag]

How does the machine know when to turn on the circulation pu

Through the machine's electronic controller.  They actually control everything, this is why they are needed because many of the operations the electronics monitor and control are far beyond the abilities of older mechanical timers.  If the mechanics were able to control everything they would be so large and complex that their cost would outweigh that of the machine.

 

 

 

[DADoES]

 
The computer control board changes the electric current to the motor for which direction to turn according to the cycle program sequence.  The pump is a separate circuit on the control board.  The microprocessor turns that circuit on when the cycle sequence calls for circulation.  Simple.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

short bursts

I have to wonder how the computer tells the machine to add water in short bursts. Why does it do this?

 

[gelaundry4ever]

water level and suspension

What does the suspension system look like in the lg front loader? How full of water is the outer tub if I barely see any water? How does water saturate the clothes if I barely see water after filling and before circulation starts? I am talking about when tumbling.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Why have some of you guys got to be arseholes? This is a washing machine thread. You guys are supposed to be experts and enthusiasts. Believe it or not you can't find absolutely everything about everything on the internet. There are a handful of videos which show bits and pieces. Maybe the guy was thinking some of you had pictures, being technicians of machines and so on.

These forums are so hostile at times.

 

[yoblount]

Just look at some of the other recent posts on this forum lately...
This is one of the most helpful and friendly forums I have ever seen. People go out of their way to post cycle guides and other detailed info, but it doesn't seem to matter. If there is hostility, there is a good reason.

 

[DADoES]

 
<blockquote>I have to wonder how the computer tells the machine to add water in short bursts. Why does it do this?</blockquote> The cycle programming embedded into the logic chips on the board controls every aspect of the machine's operation ... just like Windows or whatever is the operating system on your computer or phone controls its operation. A water level sensor, same as on any other washer, monitors the water level in the tub.  The control board adds water until the sensor registers the correct level.  Filling is done in short bursts to give the tumbling load time to absorb water and get saturated and minimize the need to add more water later.  If filling was done very quickly, the water level in the tub may register as full on the sensor before the load is fully saturated.

 

[DADoES]

 
<blockquote>What does the suspension system look like in the lg front loader?</blockquote> I don't have an LG to show its construction but perhaps these pictures of a Whirlpool Duet will help clarify for you.  I imagine most frontloaders have a similar suspension arrangement.  The tub hangs on large springs at the top and is supported and cushioned by hydraulic shocks beneath.  You can see the two shocks beneath toward the front, there are two more at the back.

 

[DADoES]

 
<blockquote>How full of water is the outer tub if I barely see any water? How does water saturate the clothes if I barely see water after filling and before circulation starts? I am talking about when tumbling.</blockquote> These next pictures show with the front half of the tub removed how much space is between the outer tub and inner drum on the Duet.  There's a deeper sump area at the bottom which of course has to completely fill with water until there's enough to reach into the drum.  The water heating element fits into the metal clip at back of the sump.

 

[DADoES]

 
Another view of the drum and tub.  Water saturates the clothes by way of the fill flow spraying directly onto them if the machine's design does that, and by the clothes tumbling through the water as rises up at bottom of the drum.

 

[iheartmaytag]

Dadoes

I wnnt to say thank you,  very nice visuals.  I actually own one of those machines, and since I have never had it apart; did not actually know what the innards looked like.  .

 

Very nice--Thank You

 

[washerdude]

Never seen the inside of the older Duets. It does seem that newer Duets are being built better actually. The tub hangs off of a strong metal bracket which goes across the top unlike the tub hanging off the side panel on older ones.

 

[johnb300m]

balance ring

I couldn't help but notice the absence of a balance ring on that Duet exploded parts photo.
I know it's customary to see a balance ring filled with bearings or water on most front load and top load machines.
Does WP handle the balancing of the tub differently?
Curious....

 

[stevet]

Duets with different innards and outards!

DADoEs, What model Duet are those pictures from? I have a 9150 model and it has the straight baffles in the drum. I would think the ones in your pics would do a better job of moving the clothes around the drum. With your model number I can see if they interchange with mine and maybe "upgrade" our washer.

As far as suspension goes, mine only came with 3 shocks from the factory which seemed to be correct as my sister in law had the same model and it only had 3 as well. I added a 4th shock to both of them and it did help.I also replaced the original springs with a newer part number and they seemed to lift the tub up a little bit.
My drum hangs from the sides on those two springs like your picture shows and I think it could use something more which would keep the drum more level as it drops down a lot in the front when loaded.

And a balancing ring would have been a smart way to go as these machines will not spin if they cannot balance properly.

And I have had problems with the water valves and their ridiculous connections. I lost the bleach dispensing capability a few months back and wound up taking out the factory connector on the valve and replaced it with small stake on terminals and have not had any problems since.

 

[DADoES]

 
GHW9400PW4.  2004 model year, mid-2006 manufacture date per serial.  It doesn't have any physical off-balance switches so sensing is done via software and monitoring of rotational inertia.

It was bought used ... or more accurately the matching dryer was bought used and the washer (which had been condemned for bad bearings) was tossed-in for free upon request.  It's not mine.  I refurbed the pair for a friend for use at one of his rental properties that needed a stacked set.  There's a thread back in Nov 2012 covering that process.  I used it for several weeks after finishing the job and found it to be an impressive piece of machinery.  The renters haven't had any problems that I've heard, and I would have / will hear about it if they do.

 

[stevet]

Thanks for the info.

I don't think ours is that old but I bet they are very much related. My exact model is WFW9150WWOO Ser. HLY4590937 WITH A 4.0 cu.ft drum.
I will check and see how close they are and what might be interchangeable. Always looking to improve the cleaning ability of this machine.

 

[jetcone]

Praise goes to

cleanteamofny for his post! Thank you for posting! That is the true spirit of AW !

Thank you Dadoes for taking the time to post pictures to diagram the innards of a typical front loader today too !

 

 

 

[gelaundry4ever]

interest setup

I have to say that the inner workings have an interesting setup.