Look what came home with me from Manchester

[matchboxpaul]

I havent shaved since last week!

Am trying to muster the energy to go and dig out the razor. I HATE shaving too.

Paul
p.s any more 1851/03 tinkering news?

 

[aquarius1984]

Ha and if you dont shave my dearest you will be on the settee this weekend!

I did not fall in love with my father in law! il be damned if im spending time with his lookilikie.

*shudders*

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

This morning I have had a play with that pressure pot, this may work or may be a complete disaster, I have made a moulding out of cardboard threaded a length of wire thought the outlet tube and placed the cardboard in the main inlet, then injected silicon into the body of the pot till the silicon came out around the main inlet, it also seeped out of the many cracks in the rubber, the seepage was then rubbed around the body of the tub to ensure all where filled.

If this works the pressure switch will have to be fine-tuned for the water level.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Not very attractive.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Now for the suspension, left-hand side, two dampers. Both in good order.
Dam arachnids have moved in, I hate anything with more than four legs more than shaving. And yes I have shaved today.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Right-hand side just the one damper.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Undercarriage. And that massive block of concrete.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Self levelling wheels and the dreaded rust.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Kick strip, more rust, most likely from washing the kitchen floor with an old cotton mop with a metal head, scratching the paint.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Nice navy blue.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Cleaned out the soap draw housing.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Will give it another going over when the re-build commences and get rid of the grey primer..

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

I have found a local powder coat specialist firm just down the road so will take the consol panel and see how much they will charge to strip, treat and re-coat the panels for me as I think this is to much for me to do myself with my armature spraying skills not up to a standard for such a classic machine.


If it’s not to expensive I may consider having the 18680 spruced up too.

They carrier out powder coating and also spray painting.

 

[HooverJames]

Hi Lee,

Nice to see you're getting well stuck in now. The pressure pot is probably well fixed now by the looks of it, it's very handy to try and fix parts first before splashing out on new ones.

I can't wait til my classic Hotpoint is delivered.

Looking good, James

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Lee.

She is keeping you busy then!

Your machines kickstrip looks a lot lighter blue than the shade on the 1701 and 1828.
Looks like they went darker for the follow on series.

Mike has done a lovely spray job on his 1509/10 toploader, using Citroen Midnight Blue car paint.
Yesterday saw me hunting through Halfords and couldnt find Citroen, but could find Peugeot Midnight blue a can of which has been procured for future use.
I am sure the shade you require can be found in Halfords too.

When you get the facia sorted, just reitterate to the sprayers that the silver facia is to be preserved at all costs.
From previous experience, the facia stickers are very difficult to remove without kinking or creasing them.
The silverness also flakes off too.

Nothings ever simple in life.

paul

 

[electron1100]

Good Stuff

OI! spiders are good mates to have, they eat all the other rotten gits around i would rather have spiders in the house than wasps!

Shaving
I havent havent shaved for over two weeks i have a full beard which is rapidly turning me into a mad rasputin lookalike......no good points other than it keeps me face warm at work.

Restoration
You said in another thread that we are so alike well i totally agree, your thinking on how to solve problems is like mine practical and hands on and a bit have-a-go harry ;-) so i can only applaud you on your approach and efforts so far to get this classic machine back to its former glory, i reckon you will do it aswell ;-) now here is possibly another place for Paul and his pot of Astonish polish to visit ;-), coz like i said before after i have spent a lot of time restoring the mechanics on a machine i am too fagged out to clean it all up.

Keep it up
Gary

Ps we are also alike on the give a good kicking approach to things that annoy us ;-)

 

[paulc]

Lee

Congratulations on getting such a superb machine, your thread has kept me very entertained!!

P.S. I never shave, keep the stubble down to a minimum with clippers once a week.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Thanks folks for the words of encouragement, I’m finding this restoration very therapeutic and most enjoyable.

Silver facia is to be preserved at all cost, you mean this, and it was only stuck on in the smallest of patches and was easily removed with a kitchen spatula with out kinking or creasing it, it seem sound with no flaking or cracking, it will be re-attached with some double sided tape after the repaint.

Lee

 

[matchboxpaul]

Great stuff Lee.

I have a knackered facia from a 1701 dryer, with a quarter of the facia loose from the facia plate. I have managed to work it off so far, but now it has stopped playing play ball and I have bottled it.

Kitchen spatula eh. Will give it a whirl.

Cant wait to see the results of the proffessional facia respray. The piccy below shows the knackered 1701 facia plus a spare 1828 facia, both of which need respraying.

Paul

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Forgot to mention, some chap came to look at that bloody up and over garage door spring, to measure it as there are many sizes, he only upset me by saying “I can make you an automatic door opener with the motor out of that old broken up washer, the one over in the corner under the workbench” I pushed him out of the garage removing the hard broom which the handle of has been doing a sterling job of holding the door open and shut the very volatile garage door behind him saying he was far to expensive had a cheaper price, bye then as I shoved him into his car. Flaming automatic door opener, what planet is he on.

“OMG” if I get home and the garage door opens by it self as I park the car next to it I will have a fit.

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Seem that the washer fascias are prone to rust around the powder unit, must be the steam from all those program number 1’s 95c, odd as these models have steam-overflow vents at the back of the draw units venting to the back of the machine, some thing to consider when the rebuild starts, perhaps a ring of that soft spongy edge draft excluder tape to help seal out the damp.

 

[electron1100]

Mr Garage Fix-IT

I reckon he was a plant by your dad ;-)

If you want to seal around the soap draw bit use a rubber sealing/weather strip it wont absorb moisture, you can get a "P" section one of ebay in white

But i would think once it has been re-sprayed it will be ok, because the original spray jobs were not that good in the first place, no undercoat etc job carried out as quickly as possible so thinnest layer of paint

Teknikal Ted

 

[electron1100]

Another Tip

Oh yeah here is another top tip from the teknikal ted "book of how to do it"

If want to remove stuck/glued on fascias/trim etc it is a lot easier if you warm them from the back with a hair dryer this helps soften the glue holding the trim on

Ta ta ;-)

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Never give it a thought, soft spongy edge draft excluder tape would absorb moisture, thank you Gary, your right also in saying the original paint job was not that special.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Great Stuff

Lee, well done on getting stuck in so quickly, always helps when you can enjoy it...must say for its age that plinth chassiss looks in remarkably good nic...no build up of anything of flaking underneath, just the corner parts etc...

How does the tub turn?? bearings smooth enough?? looks a lovely colour, powder coating is the way to go, after seeing that drawer would have been well naffed to have paid over the odds on the first price!!!

enjoy, Mike

 

[74simon]

Nice work Lee,

Admire your dedication to sorting the old beast out! Hope the silicone fixes the pressure chamber, might be work whacking some car hose repair tape round it too, won't be pretty but should keep it together and prevent further splitting.

By the way Paul - what the hell was the Super Dryer 1700?

Si

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Mike.
The drum and bearings are in mint condition, which was of great surprise, no signs of weeping oil on the back plate either, so the bearing seal is ok too, on the journey to collect it my thoughts where what condition is the enamelled drum going to be in, I envisioned it with rusting holes and chips out of it and having bearings that sound like a steam roller rolling over gravel. I’ve also had a peep though the pressure pot fixing hole in the outer tub, and can’t see any corrosion around the sump and the don’t know what to call it, suppose it’s a water baffle which runs front to back over the sump hole, the heater has very little calcium build-up so it’s been in a soft water area. As for the paint, I would like to have the powder coating but will have to see how much it’s going to cost first, I certainly can’t do it justice doing the spray painting myself, as for the cost, I have paid over the odds, but just had to have it.

Si.
Time will tell if the silicone had worked, it’s going to take some time to cure. And then the removal of the cardboard insert, which has most likely stuck to it like the preverbal on a blanket.

Lee

 

[electron1100]

Hmmmmm

nice clean backplate mate I'll give yah a fivah!

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

At the current price of gold me thinks it’s more like £105 plus the VAT, mustn’t forget her majesty’s customs and revenues must one.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Lee

Its good that the bits are still available new, but a shame they are still so expensive.
Bearing in mind that the machines they are intended for are getting few and far between, you'd think that these essesntially obsolete parts would be being sold for less, just in order for the manufacturer to get something for them.

Hi Simon.

The 1700 Super Dryer does have direct Liberator connections, in that it and the 1827 Super Electronic washing machine and 1731 compact dryer were Hotpoints first 'Best Buy' models.
The 1700, 1731 and 1827 were sold alongside the final series Liberators (the 1824/01, 1828/07 and 1848/01).
They had a white facia sticker (which yellowed over time - see picture of a 1700), purple dial with Liberator colour switches and a door with white surround and a clear door.

Never seen a piccy of the 1827, though do own a powder drawer cover from one.

Paul