Look what came home with me from Manchester

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Seem that the washer fascias are prone to rust around the powder unit, must be the steam from all those program number 1’s 95c, odd as these models have steam-overflow vents at the back of the draw units venting to the back of the machine, some thing to consider when the rebuild starts, perhaps a ring of that soft spongy edge draft excluder tape to help seal out the damp.

 

[electron1100]

Mr Garage Fix-IT

I reckon he was a plant by your dad ;-)

If you want to seal around the soap draw bit use a rubber sealing/weather strip it wont absorb moisture, you can get a "P" section one of ebay in white

But i would think once it has been re-sprayed it will be ok, because the original spray jobs were not that good in the first place, no undercoat etc job carried out as quickly as possible so thinnest layer of paint

Teknikal Ted

 

[electron1100]

Another Tip

Oh yeah here is another top tip from the teknikal ted "book of how to do it"

If want to remove stuck/glued on fascias/trim etc it is a lot easier if you warm them from the back with a hair dryer this helps soften the glue holding the trim on

Ta ta ;-)

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Never give it a thought, soft spongy edge draft excluder tape would absorb moisture, thank you Gary, your right also in saying the original paint job was not that special.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Great Stuff

Lee, well done on getting stuck in so quickly, always helps when you can enjoy it...must say for its age that plinth chassiss looks in remarkably good nic...no build up of anything of flaking underneath, just the corner parts etc...

How does the tub turn?? bearings smooth enough?? looks a lovely colour, powder coating is the way to go, after seeing that drawer would have been well naffed to have paid over the odds on the first price!!!

enjoy, Mike

 

[74simon]

Nice work Lee,

Admire your dedication to sorting the old beast out! Hope the silicone fixes the pressure chamber, might be work whacking some car hose repair tape round it too, won't be pretty but should keep it together and prevent further splitting.

By the way Paul - what the hell was the Super Dryer 1700?

Si

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Mike.
The drum and bearings are in mint condition, which was of great surprise, no signs of weeping oil on the back plate either, so the bearing seal is ok too, on the journey to collect it my thoughts where what condition is the enamelled drum going to be in, I envisioned it with rusting holes and chips out of it and having bearings that sound like a steam roller rolling over gravel. I’ve also had a peep though the pressure pot fixing hole in the outer tub, and can’t see any corrosion around the sump and the don’t know what to call it, suppose it’s a water baffle which runs front to back over the sump hole, the heater has very little calcium build-up so it’s been in a soft water area. As for the paint, I would like to have the powder coating but will have to see how much it’s going to cost first, I certainly can’t do it justice doing the spray painting myself, as for the cost, I have paid over the odds, but just had to have it.

Si.
Time will tell if the silicone had worked, it’s going to take some time to cure. And then the removal of the cardboard insert, which has most likely stuck to it like the preverbal on a blanket.

Lee

 

[electron1100]

Hmmmmm

nice clean backplate mate I'll give yah a fivah!

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

At the current price of gold me thinks it’s more like £105 plus the VAT, mustn’t forget her majesty’s customs and revenues must one.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Lee

Its good that the bits are still available new, but a shame they are still so expensive.
Bearing in mind that the machines they are intended for are getting few and far between, you'd think that these essesntially obsolete parts would be being sold for less, just in order for the manufacturer to get something for them.

Hi Simon.

The 1700 Super Dryer does have direct Liberator connections, in that it and the 1827 Super Electronic washing machine and 1731 compact dryer were Hotpoints first 'Best Buy' models.
The 1700, 1731 and 1827 were sold alongside the final series Liberators (the 1824/01, 1828/07 and 1848/01).
They had a white facia sticker (which yellowed over time - see picture of a 1700), purple dial with Liberator colour switches and a door with white surround and a clear door.

Never seen a piccy of the 1827, though do own a powder drawer cover from one.

Paul

 

[electron1100]

Backplates

your avin a larf mate! look ill tell yah wot ill do, though im skintin meself doin it.

Ill swop yoo this super strenfend one forrit an it cums wivah metool pully nun of yah plastik wons ere

 

[chestermikeuk]

I`ll.......

Raise you a fiver and give you a tenner!!!...lol,

Really glad the vitreous tub is in good nick, its the one thing that makes your machine stand out from the rest of the crowd of the 18.. series...
I wonder if the 1600 was similar?? perhaps Nige can answer!!

If you can wait till spring, pop across to the next midlands meet and introduce yourself to the "Spa of Neil & Bob" you could easily take the wrap around cabinet off!!

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Well phase one of the pressure pot has gone rather well, the cardboard mould came out after a bit of twisting, now give it some more time to cure and then remove the wire in phase two, then re-fit it and see if it’s water and air tight.

 

[electron1100]

Thick Walls

Ah right now i can see, well with walls that thick Lee I see no reason for it to leak EVER! well done on the over engineering have a gold star * ;-)

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Thank you, Gary.
I just hope it is water tight; my other fear is it dissolving in the washing detergents.

 

[electron1100]

Rubber Toys

Lee
i have used silicon sealant for years without problems of that kind, dont forget most of them are oil/petrol/high temperature resistant.

I reckon that will be fine matey ;-)

where you all excited coming home from work to see if it had worked ? I usually am when i am waiting for things to set/dry etc

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Not excited, I had convinced myself that it would not work and would have to scrap out the grunge, and was pleasantly surprised to see that it seems to have work out something like I had planed, you know what this sort of botch jobs can come out like.

 

[electron1100]

Botch Jobs

Yes they are but not totally without thinking or some understanding of the problem, a real botch would be........ummm selotape around the bowl ;-)

 

[hotpoint95622]

Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Another question about the history of these machines should the draw front be plane white or is some text or symbols missing from it??

 

[matchboxpaul]

OMG - that paint job was slightly iffy, wasnt it.
Ah well - onwards and upwards with the top notch restoration.

Re the powder drawer Lee.

Before your machine came along I had never seen an image of an 1851/03 before, so I cant definitely say whether the drawer had anything written on it or not.
However I would assume that it was a cabinet white plain facia.

The first Liberator - model 1850 - had the name on the facia and a plain drawer facia (pre 'ELECTRONIC' mumbo jumbo).
see below...