Maytag Launches Their New "Super Size" Front Loaders

[launderess]

Continuing with their Samsung alliance, Maytag is launching their new line of uber-sized front loading washers and dryers. Maytag claims the washer has the highest capacity of any front loader in the United States.

Both units are based on Samsung's Hauzen laundry appliance line, and I *think* units are going to be built in Mexico, if not directly imported from Asia.

Follow the link for more information.

Launderess

http://www.maytag.com/cust_serv/pdf_request_brochure/laundry105.pdf

 

[frigilux]

Thanks for the heads-up, even though my poor iMac ground to a halt trying to load the link. I'm afraid I'm at the end of my memory's rope, so to speak...

 

[Cybrvanr]

Does the MAH2400 (the little front loader) come with a built in water heater? It says automatic water temprature control on the PDF document, but I cannot determine if that means it has a built in heater or not.

 

[arrrooohhh]

Maysung...

I wonder what this Maysung alliance means for the future of the existing Neptune front loader with no window?

The little Maysung and big Maysung look like very nice machines, and from what I have seen of Samsung front loaders in Australia, they look nicely put together, with a good range of features/price.

I wonder what Else this arrangement might bring forth?

 

[peteski50]

Maytag Launches

I am so happy it has a WINDOW!
Peter

 

[gregm]

blank window ?

hhhmmmmm, pulled up a blank window for me ??

 

[tolivac]

Worked ok for me.Nicer machines than the Neptunes-the link showed the Neptune machines as well.Think these new ones outclass the Neptunes.Looks like they have drawer bases you can get too.Yes-like that they have windows-washer and dryer.The link still shows the windowless Neptunes.-both FL and TL.The TL one should have a window in the lid as well.In the TL Neptune-the window would allow you to see how the washer tangles and balls your clothes.

 

[launderess]

The little MaySung "compact" front loader does not have a heater.

Launderess

 

[peterh770]

Or are they Samtag?

 

[Maytaged]

The old Neptunes have outlived their usefulness. What was the largest tub front load when they were introduced in 1997 is now on the smaller side. Who wants a front load without a window. I'd never trust that is is washing anything. Add to that the problems with the earlier models I would have to say it's time to go. Although lowering the price $200 may keep it going for awhile. It represents close to half the production in the Newton plant.

As for the Maytag/Samsung relationship, I know the Samsung dishwashers are 100% Maytag design.

-ED

 

[alr2903]

Frigilux is right.

would some nice person with a FAST computer post the pic for us. Thanks.

 

[appnut]

Here ya go Arthur!!

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[appnut]

A larger pic

For ya Arthur!!

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[appnut]

And now the dryer!!

Available in gas & electric.

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[alr2903]

Thanks Bob

I was just wishing for a nice person, Thanks for posting the pics for us. I quickly realized I was like frigilux. I could not get it to download. grrrrrrrr.. They sure look nice too me, what do you think? Bob Thanks again. Arthur.

 

[kenmore1978]

Trustiing

" Who wants a front load without a window. I'd never trust that is is washing anything."

Well, we trust dishwashers, though it would be nice to have windows in them.

 

[Maytaged]

We don't have a choice with dishwashers. Plus it's a little more obvious if dishes are not cleaned well. So I'll change my statement to why buy a front loader without the window when you can get one with it. I need to see it wash.
-Ed

 

[alr2903]

Maytaged is right

Maytag sent that refrigeration factory south of the border. Also someone mentioned Maytags underfunded pension program, I think they have Big Problems. The new Machine does look nice though. If the Neptune is 1/2 the production in Newton what else do they make there?? T/L's?

 

[alr2903]

Oh yeah

Are all these new f/l's electronic? Does anyone make one with just the regular mechanical timer, like a t/l?

 

[launderess]

Quite few pension funds are underfunded, not just Maytag.

IIRC it has something to do with the face many companies with pension plans switched from investing mainly in bonds to stocks. During the "tech boom" this was fine as high stock prices allowed companies to put less of their own money into the funds. When the stock boom ended, companies were left to pick up the difference.

Also, IIRC Newton is called by Maytag one of, if not the highest cost plant it operates. Everything from labour on down costs more, so appliances produced in that plant are "uncompetitive" with Maytag's competitors. Maytag has been trying to cut costs, and that may have been one of the reasons for the strike at the Newton plant last year.

For what ever reason, wouldn't surprise me if less and less is made by Maytag in Newton, and eventually that town like so many other American manufacturing towns, will loose it's largest employer.

Front loaders with timers:

Think only the BOL offerings have them. Don't think the kind of fancy computer controls for fabric care/cycle speed and such can be done just by timers.

Launderess

 

[Cybrvanr]

The frigimore front loaders have both electronic or mechanical timer styles avaliable. The newer style ones look more like LG's or samsungs, and defnitley not USA made, home-grown designs, while the older style ones with the mechanical timers look like designs from this side of the pond.

http://www.frigidaire.com/products/laundry/washers/tumble_action/prod_GLTF1670A.asp

 

[alr2903]

Thankyou Laundress and cybrvanr

I appreciated your answers laundress, i guess also increased prices for steel in the USA will also impact Newton, Cybrvanr thanks for your link. Something about those electronic control boards causes me extreme anxiety

 

[super32]

Update

There was some heated debate on THS about who is making the new maytag f/l. I went to the service training on it yesterday and yes maytag confirmed it IS samsung . It's rumored that samsung doesnt make a full size dryer. This means that the dryer was sourced for samsung, because one good look inside this dryer and you will see the dryer was made by our freinds in Marion Ohio.

Scott

 

[launderess]

Always Knew the MaySung's Were Based on Hauzen

Line from Samsung, someone got a bee in his bonnet that the units looked so similar to LG, that the units must have come from them.

Wouldn't surprise me if the MaySung dryers were out sourced from SamSung, as they probably do not build large American sized clothes dryers.

So far a few buyers over on THS have taken the plunge and purchased these units, I'm standing back and taking a wait and see attitude. Too many of these new front loaders,especially those with fancy electronic controls boards have growing pains in the first model year. I refuse to be test case for Maytag, who if they got their act together need not have bothered "going Asian".

Launderess

 

[repair-man]

Scott

For those who don't know (including myself) who makes dryers in Marion, Ohio ?

Any comments on the machines since you got to see them up close? (Inside and Out)

Ed

 

[christd1]

manufacturing location

Marion, OH is where Whirlpool builds dryers.

Maytag produces dryers in Searcy, AK and Newton but mainly in Herrin, IL.

 

[super32]

I couldnt help but to think of it as a F&P w/o an agitator. It has the direct drive motor and even sounds like an F&P. Its big, has a window, quiet, 10 degree tilt on the drum, and is fairly service freindly. The heater will only come on once during a cycle and is only for maintaining and boosting the temp. The sani cycle will heat to 151 or 155 and will delay to reach the temp. The other cycles will not delay. So unfortunatlly this means no profile wash. The 2 piece drum sits on 4 struts with 2 springs on top. I found the suspention to be rather soft. They only had the 9700 there to show. The 8700 is soon to come and the 6700 which is belt driven will come later in the summer. The 6700 is the only one that can be stacked and does not have a heater. It will be competitive as far as sales because they will be priced with other brands. The reliabilty remains to be seen.

Scott

 

[repair-man]

So Maytag sells a dryer from Samsung made by Whirlpool?

I miss the old day's.

Ed

 

[kreftgr]

Dryer Not Made By Whirlpool

Although it sure looks a lot like the Whirlpool dryer, right down to the tri-ring holding the support wheels on, the "made in Korea" on the label and the assurance of the Maytag service trainer at the meeting that I attended today, it is not a Whirlpool. We were told that they were designed by Maytag but manufactured in Korea by Samsung. As far as looking like a Whirlpool, check out the GE Harmony dryer design. I don't know how the law suite is going against LG by Whirlpool. It seems like there has been an awful lot of infringement of designs in the last few years by relatively new foreign manufacturers. I was told that LG went so far as to have parts that came out of molds that match the imperfections that were in the original Whirlpool molds.

 

[christd1]

Functional vs. cosmetic design protection

The Korean manufacturers are notorious at reverse engineering product down to a point where it is almost silly. The real issue is that patent lawsuits are mostly based on performance enhancing design while violations of patents on styling are easily place in the market due to the little amount of evidence needed to show subtle variations.