Maytag Neptune TL!

[henene4]

Always thought that those tumblers looked the wrong way around. That sharp edge should better lift clothing.

Also think that that machine could have hugely benefited from a mode shifter based mechanism.
Being abled to reverse the tumbler direction should have limited tangeling.
And with the tumbling vs spin shift being based on motor direction there was just no way to realise that.

Now the big question:

If you could bring back either of these 2 with some improfements which would you choose: The Neptune TL or The Calypso?

Neptune TL with reversing tumbling, improofed tumblers, a recirculation, normal dispensers with glass lid?

Calypso with heater, improofed mechanism, glass lid?

 

[rodro2006]

Henen4

Well, actually you can invert the rollers, and have the action you are talking about, I just put them back after I clean it the wrong way and the rollers roll the other way around, but I think it can be a bit aggressive with clothes.

And giving answer to your question, I will always prefer this Maytag Neptune TL by far, I didn't like the Calypso motion.

GELAUNDRY

Sorry I get confused, the cycle I test yesterday was the sturdy one, the difference between this one and the cottons, is the pauses it makes during the cycle, but I attach to u the cycles available.

 

[maytagneptune]

Light loads do not do so well in this machine

Whenever I wash stuff in this I put 2 towels on the mix and fill the tub to the plastic water ring. so it can tumble and not just move the load back and fourth.

 

[DADoES]

 
henene4, absolutely the Calypso with a heater!

 

[DADoES]

 
Rodrigo, the final rinse doesn't start tumbling until the higher fill level is reached ... it just happened to do the top-off due to the level dropping via water absorption of the fabric.  Softener flush begins on the final rinse when the normal level is reached and continues until the higher level is reached.

It'll also do top-offs if necessary on the wash and interim rinses at the lower level.

The Bulky cycle runs the higher level for all fills.

Bleach flush is during the fill for the 1st rinse, if you haven't yet noticed.

This all as per behavior of my FAV6800.

 

[rodro2006]

Dadoes response

Yes to all of your sentences, the thing is that I used to have another TL, but I get rid of it because of the tub bearings get ruined, here in Mexico is too expensive to repair it, so that's why I told u earlier that I forget every step thorough the cycle.

But I only get used it again, and never will cought by the water.

Thanks

 

[thomasortega]

Rodro, where do you live in Mexico? Is it close to California?

 

[logixx]

Thanks for the video! I never knew one could reverse the tumblers. How much more aggressive does the wash action become?

 

[thomasortega]

For decades I ran away from Calypsos, until the day one ended up falling from the sky on my lap.

The beginning mas kinda meh, specially because the washer was horribly dirty.

The idea was play with it for a few days and then get rid of it...

Kevin has a Calypso and always said it's one of his favorite washers for whites... I was polite so I always smiled and said "Ah, cool".. (Inside I was asking myself "WTF?!?!"

I ran tons of cycles with test load, fryer boil out, citric acid. Including one day that i unplugged it and filled it manually up to the top, added cascade, let it soak for a few minutes and drained (what came out was nasty), rinse, repeat a zillion times.

Finally the day to have a full load came... The calypso shocked me. Really dirty whites came out like new.

Second load, a full load and I decided to challenge it with an overload.
The result was even better. It's incredible how it works much better overloaded.

The only thing I thought it was ridiculous was the bulky cycle, I washed a queen size duvet in it and it was a disaster. Never again!

For everything else, try to keep the load (after wet) almost level to the top of the cone. the rollover is great and the cleaning performance is unbeatable.

It's a little bit rough on full loads of towels.

The Calypso has tons of annoying things and some project mistakes, but it's an spectacular washer. And it's impossible to compare with its successor Cabrio.
OMG, Why I didn't get a Calypso before? That washer is awesome.

 

[rodro2006]

Thomas ortega & Logixx

Thomas i live in Mexico City, that is located in the middle of the country, about 3500kms from California.

Logixx, well actually it doesn't mean that I reverse the motor or something like that, to watch it in reverse mode, you have to put the left roller in the right position and the right roller move it in the left position and you would have the reverse mode

 

[combo52]

Whirlpool built calypso washer

Doing my big load of monthly whites in my calypso last night, my goal is to never be without this washer for the rest of my life.

A big basket a very dirty socks etc. one cup of bleach in the dispenser everything comes out beautifully washed and rinsed so well that you can’t smell the bleach and then dried outdoors in the beautiful fresh air in an outdoor gas Whirlpool dryer.

John

 

[thomasortega]

John, I have the Kenmore version..

One thing annoys me and I'm not sure if the cycle was designed like that or the oversuds is going off too soon.

Heavy duty cycle. I start the washer and like 1 or 2 minutes later it drains and start that suds lock routine, spraying water and spinning in super low speed for like 15 minutes, then it refills and washes.

The thing is... what sense it makes to let the detergent act for only 2 minutes, spend 15 minutes spray rinsing and then washing with plain water?

Btw, that happens using low suds detergent, but of course, even those are a bit sudsy on the very beginning of the wash when it starts recirculating but there isn't enough water to dilute it.

 

[henene4]

Maybe it's kind of a super wash behaviour?

Whirlpool had a SuperWash cycle on some TLs.

You were supposed to double dose detergent.
Washer would fill, wash for a short period of time, drain and refill.
That would give you a prewash of sorts and the double dose would still leave enough detergent in the main wash.

The Calypso might iterate on this and add a soak afterwards.

Is it recirculating during that slow spin?

 

[thomasortega]

No recirculation.

The behavior is quite stupid

It starts filling, recirculates briefly with agitation to start wetting the clothes (a few seconds)
Then it spins (no drain) to extract the water from clothes and in theory starts recirculating again.
during this spin, it suddenly stops for a few seconds, drain and start spraying the load with fresh water and slow spin (around 90 rpm) for something near 15 minutes.

So, even before the load has the chance to saturate with detergent, it already rinses everything away.

 

[thomasortega]

Strangely it happens only on heavy duty cycle.

 

[maytagneptune]

Wierd Noise when ramping up to 800 RPM.

I have a weird whirring noise when it spins up to 800 RPM it sounds very similar to a LG TROMM. Is this perfectly Normal or did I install the seal wrong?

Taken with amazon kindle fire. not the best video but the SOUND!

 

[combo52]

Sounds Fine To Me

I would just keep running it, you did a great job getting this running.

John L.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

Stain Treat/ Catalyst

That weird behavior occurring only on the Heavy Duty cycle is the stain treat option similar to that of a catalyst machine. Saturated soak was somewhat similar.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

Ohhhh

NICE! Thank you guys!

 

[maytagneptune]

Final Rinse water level

does the Enviro plus cycle still use the higher water level or does it use the wash water level?

 

[yogitunes]

for the TL, I would reverse the tumblers, it would handle most all loads with no issues compared to how they are originally...and as Glenn mentioned, needing some extra help at times....

but give me a Calypso any day....

Thomas, your Heavy Duty doesn't seem right, it will spin and saturate, but not drain before the wash...

minimal water is only used to really concentrate the detergent lather, and it may suds up, but once the wash action progresses, more water may be added, and the dirt will knock the suds down....and I dont use HE detergents in mine...anywho, just enough water is added to saturate the load, and cause the waterfall to operate...that is all that is ever needed...

Kenmores always did a different program for their cycles compared to the Whirlpool counterpart....and dont know why, they both used the same boards...

but have found a few different boards after change out, that certain cycles had some slight differences in how the cycle progressed than what you were used to...

 

[rodro2006]

Maytag Neptune TL spins

For me it sounds normal, actually mine sounds the same even at 1000rpm

 

[rp2813]

These TL Neptunes are among the weirdest, and coolest automatics ever made.  They invoke images of early machines with wacky mechanisms.

 

Nate had one when he lived in Oakland.  It seemed like an odd system to me then, and per the clips posted above, it still does.

 

That's not to say they can't do a good job, mind you.  I think the waterfall system on the Calypso would be equally entertaining, though.

 

[rp2813]

Saludos, Rod!

 

I love Mexico City and have been there a number of times.   I hope someday to get back to Teotihuacan.  I feel an energy out there that I can't quite describe.

 

Your English is very good!  Much better than my "use it or lose it" Spanish! 

 

Con mucho gusto,

 

Raphael

 

[iheartmaytag]

Going into suds routine at the start of cycle

Could indicate a bad pressure sensor, or a clogged tube.
I had this happen on my Maytag FL, it would immediately go into suds when started. Repair was a new pressure sensor, no more issues.

 

[rodro2006]

RP2813

Hi you, it's a pleasure to see your post, as you say Mexico has a lot of peculiar places you can visit and the piramids are one of those.

Where are you from cause I didn't catch it?

I'm very proud also that we can enjoy the variety of all type of washers here in Mexico. As I have it with my all new Maytag Neptune TL

Contact me as soon as you know there's an option u can visit Mexico again

Cheers

 

[warmsecondrinse]

Oh, great. Now I have a whole new kind of Neptune to lust for.... and a whole new bunch of YouTube vids to watch when I should be working........

I can't decide if this is really, really good or really, really bad.....

Jim

 

[thomasortega]

I found one exactly like that.... 130 miles away from Los Angeles.

Right now I'm crying because the USA market doesn't have a mini pickup truck derivate from a small "subcompact" hatchback like the Fiat Strada or the Ford Courrier.

I simply can't ask Kevin to risk his life going on a 260-mile road trip while the world is locked down.

 

[warmsecondrinse]

That sucks.

I'm sure you've noticed how deficient the USA is regarding smaller vehicles. For whatever reasons, the best subcompact and smaller cars aren't on offer.

In the 80' and 90' there were quite a few "small" pickups available, but no more.

I hope you can find an alternative.

Best of luck,

Jim

 

[thomasortega]

Yep, That's because of the "bigger is better" culture.

I'll never forget when I lived in Dallas... My neighbor had TWO giant RAM in the garage.. He used his MONSTER truck with a giant extended bed and "tuned" suspension to almost need a fire ladder to enter the truck, drive to work leave it parked all day long and then drive back home.

His wife was even shorter than him and also had a similar giant RAM only to use it to go to the supermarket or the dry cleaners.

I bet they never placed anything on the bed, because it could "stain" or scratch the paint.

Well, considering the "complaints" and "bad reviews" that include a customer saying our company is a "scam" because the Silk Lux can't wash a Cal-king duvet, it's easy to understand.

If Fiat releases the Strada or VW releases the Saveiro here in the USA, people would probably say it's horrible, a complete disaster and useless just because you can't fit 2 elephants on the bed.

And those tiny pickups are just perfect for 1 or 2 washers.

recently I learned (Here on AWO if I'm not mistaken) that Subaru once had a "smaller" pick up (still way bigger than those I'm talking about) and it was a sales disaster because it was too small.