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Press Release
No. 149/2004

Honeycomb drum offers double drying benefits

Aired and gently cushioned

The patented honeycomb drum on the Miele tumble dryer offers the double benefits of cushioning laundry as it tumbles and improving the exposure of laundry to airflow. A certificate issued by Germany's highly esteemed Hohensteiner Institute after testing the honeycomb drum which now also features on Miele tumble dryers highlights the 'evener drying results and the reduced creasing' as being tangible consumer benefits. This endorsement by experts underlines the practical laundry-care value of the honeycomb drum.

The most striking feature of the dryer drum are the hexagonal sections which arch outwards. In the tumble dryer, this traps tiny pockets of air between the laundry and the walls of the drum. These reduce friction and also act as miniature cushions, gently catching laundry as it tumbles and represent a major contribution towards reducing the strain on laundry. Another positive effect of the pockets of trapped air is that laundry is exposed to warm air from both sides during drying. This results in faster and more even drying, allowing the air temperature to be reduced. Lower mechanical action and reduced drum speeds thanks to the introduction of the honeycomb drum improve the gentle treatment of fabrics and reduce creasing levels. Mechanical action through friction is reduced through the smaller contact surface and by suction forming in the hexagonal air pockets as the air cools down, effectively turning these air pockets into tiny suction pads which transport laundry further around the clock face. This results in a greater fall height and consequently prolonged exposure to the air stream. This in turn results in improved, more even drying results. These properties are so effective that Miele design engineers were even able to reduce drum speeds.

The honeycomb drum is an invention which mimics structures which occur in the natural world around us. Why shouldn't what is second nature in the world of flora and fauna find its way into state-of-the-art appliances? For example in washing machines and tumble dryer drums. Bionics – a term bringing together biology and technology – is nothing other than plagiarism from the natural world, putting good ideas to technical use, a trend which is starting to take off in industry.
 
Miele dryer 9800 and 4840 washer... noise?

Just had my new mega Mieles installed on Friday. The dryer is so loud it sounds like the blower in the car wash and when clothes are in it, it sounds as though it is choking. The installer is coming back today to see if there is a problem with the venting. I love the washer. It is so quiet and efficient. The dryer however needs to be WAY more quiet. I think my next door neighbor can hear it. I've been afraid to run it in case there is something blocking the air flow... I don't know. The Miele customer service people tell me there is so much more air flowing with Miele dryers than other brands and it is noisier because of that, but I can not imaging anyone would be okay with this amount of noise. Any thoughts? thanks.
 
Thanks for the report on the pair, Laundrylady.

The increased air flow MIGHT be a cause of increased noise. I think the increased air flow of the Maytag Neptune dryer is responsible for at least part of the greater noise (when compared to a White-Westinghouse dryer it replaced). But if your neighbor can hear it, I suspect that there might be something wrong.

I'm also guessing that this dryer is sold in the USA only, so it may be that (gasp) Miele didn't do quite as good a job of engineering and/or manufacturing it as they did with the washer. Just a guess.
 
Don't know about the dryer but the washer is supposed to be available here in 2008.

Too bad there isn't more info available regarding the dryer and it's features. Miele.ca states:

"Drying your clothing the Miele way!

The performance and efficiency of a Miele full size dryer is unparalleled. Equipped with the most powerful motor in its category, air flow is maximized resulting in reduced drying times and temperatures. This means less wear and tear on your clothing and lowers energy consumption."


I can only guess that, since Miele also makes commercial equipment, they might have incorporated some professional technology into this dryer - like an extra powerful fan, for example.

BTW: the dryer is rated 6.36 cubic feet (according to Miele.ca)

HTH, Alex
 
Well, Herr Kochwäsche ;)

I'm guessing it'll probably be around 8 kg +.

Good thing is that the Miele is a *real* large capacity machine - like the Bauknecht BIG or the Bosch Logixx 9 - not a fake one like the new standard-sized Bosch/Siemens washers that are supposed to hold as much laundry (8 kg) as all the other large capacity washers even though the BSH drum is just 65 liters / 2.3 cu.ft.
 
Miele Dryer

A poster over on THS/Laundry Forum who purchased the new uber Miele set also complained the dryer was a tad loud for his tastes. Miele sent out a representive and told him the sound was normal operation. So guess the answer is, yes, Miele has compenstated energy savings in lowering heat by using more air flow. Then again maybe the heating isn't that low; our local laundromat dryers are also loud but will turn out crispy laundry if one uses "high" and allows items to over dry.

Just as an aside, was speaking to Miele tech support the other day about my W770, and was told the new uber Miele washers have three phase motors. Thought that was only possible on 220V power? Must have been mistaken .

L.
 
Miele dryer noise, also enjoying our 70 degree weather in th

Thank you Sudsmaster and Launderess. Have been using the uber machines (4840 washer and 9800 dryer now for about 3 weeks. The dryer was originally installed using a periscope vent which had to be changed to the standard 4" metal tubing. That made a small difference in the noise, however, it is still the loudest dryer I have EVER heard. I previously had the Maytag Neptune W/D 7500 series. That dryer was great, but the washer had lots of problems and I finally gave up after 5 years of service calls from Sears. Then I purchased Sears top of the line HE4 and HE4T. The dryer circuit board had a problem after 1 week and it went downhill from there, so I had Sears take them back and decided to hunt for the "best" W/D available. I had always heard that Miele was top. The dryer has other problems than just noise. There is a buzzer which you can select to notify you when the clothes are dry or not. I opted for "not". When the clothes are dry it not only buzzes but does it non-stop for about 3 minutes unless you open the door. The Miele repair man said it is and I quote, "An Acoustical Acknowledgment". He attempted to dismantel the buzzer unsucessfully. I am waiting to hear back from Miele with regard to these issues. If this is not what they consider defective and fixable, I will be looking for a different W/D. I see reviews on the LG and Bosch. Any thoughts on these. I know they aren't built like the Mieles, but seriously, the noise and buzzer are not acceptable and I just don't know what else to do.
 
If you think that your Miele dryer is too noisy and the buzzer unacceptable why don't you switch to our grannies remedy instead of continuously change your machines in search of the perfect one? you should try how good is to put your clothes on the line outside. You also get a lot of inexpensive gym too and you save energy! What could you want more? :-)
 
Laundrylady,

You're welcome.

I also have the 7500 Neptune set, but also got a 7 year extended service agreement (it runs out next winter), and it came in very handy to address what now seems to be virtually all the problems with this set. However, I digress. I think the 7500 is too loud - certainly louder than the vintage GE and the White Westinghouse dryers that preceded it. If the Mega Miele dryer is louder than that, then no thanks to that. The laundery closet in this home is in a very central location, and a noisy dryer would be a big inconvenience.

Bewitched,

I actually line dry a lot, but there are times and certain load types that are best suited to a mechanical dryer. The choice here anyway isn't between line drying and machine drying - Laundrylady has already bought the dryer, and it's not entire satisfactory to tell her not to use it at all because of a design issue. The mfg should fix that design flaw, regardless of how much the customer intends to use the dryer.
 
It was only a joke! I would be extremely angry paying for something who doesn't work satisfactorily... Anyway I think Miele will perfectly be able to cope with all the needs of customers included repairing of faults.
 
Miele dryer noise, also enjoying our 70 degree weather in th

Bewitched,
I just thought people might want to know how loud the dryer is before forking out $1400. It would be great if it were in the garage but it is in fact next to the kitchen and I actually enjoy cooking indoors even though, as I'm sure you'll point out, I could cook outdoors and not have to listen to the dryer. And as far as Miele being able to cope with faults, I went to the store where it was purchased and they now have it plugged in and it is just as loud so I do not think Miele would consider this a fault. By the way, when the dryer was turned on in the store, the manager had to put his call on hold because he could not hear over the sound of the dryer. But thank you for your helpful courteous thought on this matter. I'm off to the gym. Hope things are nice in Italy.

Sudsmaster,
Thank you for understanding. I have had some bad luck with washer and dryer selections and am a little gun shy to make a decision as each one seems to get worse. The Mieles do wash and dry superbly, however, the noise and buzzer which also went off inappropriately in the store/showroom are frustrating. I'm hopeful that Miele will consider the shortcomings of their Americanized version of their machines and correct them on the next go around.
Best,
Laundrylady
 
Nmainman,the model T9820(Miele 7.3 cu ft.gas dryer with see through window)will be unvailed real soon.It plugs into 110 volts and uses gas Natural or Propain to heat the unit!!!!!
 
What Laundress said!

I want a machine where I can set the temperature, time and all variables to my own liking. And dammit, I want those machines to run on 220V so I don't have to wait all day for the laundry to get done. If I want to boil my colors, let me boil my colors!!
 
bajaespuma -

You can get exactly what you want. Just have to buy one of the higher-end commerical laundry machines from Miele, Speed Queen and others. With those machines you should be able to design cycles to do whatever you want, but at a price. They are also 220V (typically 3 phase).

I'd also like to see a high quality consumer large capacity machine in single phase 220V, but I now believe it is a desire that will likely never happen. If Miele didn't do it, who would? Other than making profile washes very very long, the cycle times on the W4840 seem very reasonable.
 
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