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liberatordeluxe
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lol
aquacycle
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I assure you, I know who I'd rather have.
Anyway, back to the Bendix....
I believe ours was a Euronics exclusive and probably the last of this style. This style originally had mechanical timers but these were upgraded to electronic controls about half way through the run.
I also believe this style was the more basic range, running alongside the Zanussi XC's, but actually ended up lasting longer than they did.
Anyway, back to the Bendix....
I believe ours was a Euronics exclusive and probably the last of this style. This style originally had mechanical timers but these were upgraded to electronic controls about half way through the run.
I also believe this style was the more basic range, running alongside the Zanussi XC's, but actually ended up lasting longer than they did.
aquacycle
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And Robert, if you want to call me darling, go right ahead
The Allergy option seems to be a mystery. So far I have read: "adds some extra water", "extends temp holding time", "extends interim spins". I guess only Miele knows.
lol you guys!!!
Flirt away...
We have a Zanussi Jetsystem XC at home home and it's going strong, 11 years old, filthy (from poor water supply) and beeps insesiantly casue the water pressure is too low but other than that..... Great washer, Does the wash spin (little known fact) on the Cottons 50C cycle. DOes distribution rinses if you don't select Super Rinse which does deep rines 400rpm interval spin and cuts out two interm spins. spin speed 700rpm and below it does interm tumble rinses.
Flirt away...
We have a Zanussi Jetsystem XC at home home and it's going strong, 11 years old, filthy (from poor water supply) and beeps insesiantly casue the water pressure is too low but other than that..... Great washer, Does the wash spin (little known fact) on the Cottons 50C cycle. DOes distribution rinses if you don't select Super Rinse which does deep rines 400rpm interval spin and cuts out two interm spins. spin speed 700rpm and below it does interm tumble rinses.
Our W3241 and W961 both froze some times. Mostly in the end-phase of the wash, as the temperature wasn't reached yet. And if it did not reach the temperature within 40min, it mostly frooze....
I know that short does 5 min, normal 15 min and Hygiene 30 min wash at least after the temperature is reached the first time and the whole time, the temp is holden and ensured.
I know that short does 5 min, normal 15 min and Hygiene 30 min wash at least after the temperature is reached the first time and the whole time, the temp is holden and ensured.
Interesting..
Interesting...
I'm terribly impressed at how quickly my Miele can heat a drum of water when it sets it's mind to it. Like if i fully load a load and put it on short which is only designed for a half load it will heat the water untilt he temp is reached and within time.
My ZWF14791? Not a notion. If any of the wash paramaters mean't that the temp might mean more effor tto reach it wouldn't bother and it would happily never peak at the inteded temperature.
Interesting...
I'm terribly impressed at how quickly my Miele can heat a drum of water when it sets it's mind to it. Like if i fully load a load and put it on short which is only designed for a half load it will heat the water untilt he temp is reached and within time.
My ZWF14791? Not a notion. If any of the wash paramaters mean't that the temp might mean more effor tto reach it wouldn't bother and it would happily never peak at the inteded temperature.
Seening as I'm giving out so much about the cunt...
heres a pic of the ******** that refused to rinse and over work clothes into cardboard.
The jetsystem wasn't a cyclindrical shot like in previous machines it was a flattented spray head jet.
It would constantly cut the pump mid interm spin (as a massive amount of water was still draining) and use that water (topped up a bit) to facilitate the next rinse hence it's water efficency. Nonsence.
Started to get loud on spin too, and would spin VERY unbalanced. The loudness wasn't bearings though. The paddles were too deep aswell. Created way to much foam.
heres a pic of the ******** that refused to rinse and over work clothes into cardboard.
The jetsystem wasn't a cyclindrical shot like in previous machines it was a flattented spray head jet.
It would constantly cut the pump mid interm spin (as a massive amount of water was still draining) and use that water (topped up a bit) to facilitate the next rinse hence it's water efficency. Nonsence.
Started to get loud on spin too, and would spin VERY unbalanced. The loudness wasn't bearings though. The paddles were too deep aswell. Created way to much foam.
aquacycle
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Hi Robert,
Friendly tip - watch your language on the forum. Believe me, I swear like a trouper and I love how utterly vile the C word is, but some people might not love swearing that much and the mods might have to step in. Just a heads up
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Here is a pic of my Mum's 2010 Zanussi jetsystem 1600. I have to say, it's a fab machine. Unlike the jet on the one pictured about, it does have the more cylindrical spray - looks a bit like it's weeing. It's also incredibly well balanced and quiet. My only dislike on it is the ridiculously long cottons cycles. 2 and half hours for a cottons 40 is utterly ridiculous.
Chris
Friendly tip - watch your language on the forum. Believe me, I swear like a trouper and I love how utterly vile the C word is, but some people might not love swearing that much and the mods might have to step in. Just a heads up
. Here is a pic of my Mum's 2010 Zanussi jetsystem 1600. I have to say, it's a fab machine. Unlike the jet on the one pictured about, it does have the more cylindrical spray - looks a bit like it's weeing. It's also incredibly well balanced and quiet. My only dislike on it is the ridiculously long cottons cycles. 2 and half hours for a cottons 40 is utterly ridiculous.
Chris
aquacycle
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I love to swear
Me too. As any of the guys on here who have met me will tell you, I drop the C, F and S bombs regularly into daily conversation.
I'm sure that Fred and Robert are not remotely phased by swearing in "real life", but on here as there are so many of us of different ages and different backgrounds of life, it's better to bite your tongue and keep everyone happy.
Me too. As any of the guys on here who have met me will tell you, I drop the C, F and S bombs regularly into daily conversation.
I'm sure that Fred and Robert are not remotely phased by swearing in "real life", but on here as there are so many of us of different ages and different backgrounds of life, it's better to bite your tongue and keep everyone happy.
liberatordeluxe
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2.5 hours is how long it takes on most modern machines today thanks to the silly EU energy ratings.
aquacycle
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@liberatordeluxe....
I beg to differ, I just got 1 hour 6 minutes on a cottons 60 out of the Miele and my sister's Beko takes 1 hour 30 minutes.
You may mock the EU energy ratings, but they DO save energy and machines still wash and rinse as well as they've ever done.
I beg to differ, I just got 1 hour 6 minutes on a cottons 60 out of the Miele and my sister's Beko takes 1 hour 30 minutes.
You may mock the EU energy ratings, but they DO save energy and machines still wash and rinse as well as they've ever done.
paulc
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I can do an average 60deg wash in around an hour too, even with 12 bath towels my machine will do a 60 deg wash in 90mins.
Mind you I know someone with an 8kg Hotpoint Futura and the wash times on that are stupidly long, 3hrs 49 for a 40 deg cotton wash, it will knock time off if it detects less than a full load and if you select time saver the wash takes 1hr49.
Mind you I know someone with an 8kg Hotpoint Futura and the wash times on that are stupidly long, 3hrs 49 for a 40 deg cotton wash, it will knock time off if it detects less than a full load and if you select time saver the wash takes 1hr49.
hoover1100
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Long wash times
I would say are more caused by the push for ever larger machines.
Look in the machines lined up in an appliance retailer, I've seen some models labelled 6, 7, 8 and even 9kg, all with pretty much exactly the same size drum!
So how do you wash 9kg of clothes in a drum designed to wash around 6kg? You cram it full to bursting and the cycle has to last around 3-4 hours on some models in order to achieve the same results!
My Mum's Miele usually takes around the same time as my 25 year old Hoover Logic to complete an equivalent wash cycle, and the 6kg beko I used at my old place took around 20mins longer, really no big deal.
Liberatordeluxe a lot of the blanket statements you make seem to come from articles published on whitegoodshelp. Please bear in mind these articles were written 6 or more years ago, based on findings that predate their publishing. At that time some detergents did suds a lot and were quite difficult to rinse out. Also, some machines back in the early to mid 2000s which these articles based their findings on were not particularly effective at rinsing the higher sudsing detergents of the time.
Things have moved on a great deal in the last few years and there are many machines out there with decent cycle lengths and good rinse results, infact water consumption in machines now seems much higher than it was 5 or 10 years ago. Also, the detergents such as ariel which developed a reputation for being high sudsing and difficult to rinse have been reformulated many times since then and no longer suffer from their previous drawbacks.
If you read through the archives on this forum to 2006 or 2007 say, you will see many of us complaining about poor rinsing, high sudsing detergents and long wash times, but times have changed!
Matt[this post was last edited: 7/27/2013-12:21]
I would say are more caused by the push for ever larger machines.
Look in the machines lined up in an appliance retailer, I've seen some models labelled 6, 7, 8 and even 9kg, all with pretty much exactly the same size drum!
So how do you wash 9kg of clothes in a drum designed to wash around 6kg? You cram it full to bursting and the cycle has to last around 3-4 hours on some models in order to achieve the same results!
My Mum's Miele usually takes around the same time as my 25 year old Hoover Logic to complete an equivalent wash cycle, and the 6kg beko I used at my old place took around 20mins longer, really no big deal.
Liberatordeluxe a lot of the blanket statements you make seem to come from articles published on whitegoodshelp. Please bear in mind these articles were written 6 or more years ago, based on findings that predate their publishing. At that time some detergents did suds a lot and were quite difficult to rinse out. Also, some machines back in the early to mid 2000s which these articles based their findings on were not particularly effective at rinsing the higher sudsing detergents of the time.
Things have moved on a great deal in the last few years and there are many machines out there with decent cycle lengths and good rinse results, infact water consumption in machines now seems much higher than it was 5 or 10 years ago. Also, the detergents such as ariel which developed a reputation for being high sudsing and difficult to rinse have been reformulated many times since then and no longer suffer from their previous drawbacks.
If you read through the archives on this forum to 2006 or 2007 say, you will see many of us complaining about poor rinsing, high sudsing detergents and long wash times, but times have changed!
Matt[this post was last edited: 7/27/2013-12:21]
liberatordeluxe
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1 hour 6 mins is reasonable but Miele are the only ones I know that do this so far.
I am not convinced with the energy saving but there we go can't all agree.
I don't think there are any true low suds detergents Matt maybe except Halo, own brand liquids perhaps? The new Ariel liquid is not too foamy so have stuck with that for the time being but the gels were a nightmare for foam. I seem to recall someone with a Miele on Youtube had trouble rinsing it out even after 5 rinses so I suppose there was a problem with that formula.
I am not convinced with the energy saving but there we go can't all agree.
I don't think there are any true low suds detergents Matt maybe except Halo, own brand liquids perhaps? The new Ariel liquid is not too foamy so have stuck with that for the time being but the gels were a nightmare for foam. I seem to recall someone with a Miele on Youtube had trouble rinsing it out even after 5 rinses so I suppose there was a problem with that formula.
aquarius1984
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Owner of a current EcoPerfect Bosch
Can complete a 60 degree wash in 1hr 10 minutes
40'c wash 1 hour.
90'c Wash 1 hr 39minutes.
Add Bosch to the list after Miele - ~im surprised you didnt know this owning a very similar machine.
Can complete a 60 degree wash in 1hr 10 minutes
40'c wash 1 hour.
90'c Wash 1 hr 39minutes.
Add Bosch to the list after Miele - ~im surprised you didnt know this owning a very similar machine.
Panasonic does a full 40° with 3 rinses in 2:01, 60° in 2:40 and 90° in 2:40, too. All time cut down to the half with speed except 90° which takes 1:45 then. But you never get that 70L drum full enough to sense a full load without any cheating...
So add Panasonic to the list
So add Panasonic to the list
