Miele Update : did your machine(s) have it done?

[aeg03]

I didnt knw that Fiat made appliance lol

Sorry I dont hav a pic of that Zanussi IZ. On the topic of Fiat and branding etc, I have a Citroen car, I only realised 2 years ago that it is in fact a Peugeot with a Citroen badge on it, it has the same Multiplexed electronic system etc etc the branding system does not really make anything unique anymore, I mean look at Hotpoint/Indesit/Ariston and Elux,Zanussi/AEG. It is everywhere you look. Its a shame

 

[rolls_rapide]

My Zanussi IZ is definately made in ...

Italy.

Darren's Bosch could well have the full implementation of Fuzzy Logic. I used to have Bosch brochures around about 1995, and I'm quite sure that the blurb said that a small load would require less agitation than a full load of laundry.

Also said something about out-of-balance loads causing a 'normal' machine to spin at a low speed, but with fuzzy logic, the machine would calculate the best speed attainable, etc.

Mentioned something about '3D-AquaSpa' water-soaking too.

 

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Aeg03

I think the 'full' implementation of Fuzzy Logic is supposed to cover all aspects of the cycle. Which? magazine mentioned it in one of their reports several years ago.

So in theory, the full setup would be Fuzzy Logic control of:

water absorption levels,
water temperature profile,
wash agitation,
foam detection,
rinsing profile,
spin profile,
out-of-balance load detection,
flood detection,
error detection,
intelligent door lock release (I liked that on my 1998 AEG!).

I would imagine that today's modern turbidity sensors could be employed to 'see' if the rinse water is clear enough, rather than just relying on foam levels. These sensors could also be used to see if the wash water is dirty enough.

 

[newwave1]

Rolls!
You are indeed correct, my machine spins everytime. as they state in the brochure "many failed attempts to balance followed by a short spin time make for a poor spin" My bosch calculates the level of balance and spins to its safest speed to extract as much as it can, then it will redistribute and carry on up to the full speed as balanced as poss!

Also the water level sensors and agitation work exceptionally well. For example. the aysymmetric paddles are soft on one side and flat on the other. So depending on the wash type and soiling it is not uncommon for it to tumble ages in one direction more than the other.

I have it set up to hot and cold atm and you can hear it switching between the valves.

Also it has the guarenteed rinse time. So irregardless of how long it takes to fill it will rinse for a minimum time!

I'm very pleased with it.

Darren

 

[favorit]

- @ Darren -just saw it on the brochure, indeed your machine was in the TOL range. I'd dare to say it's much better than today's Classix

- here it was 3DAquaSPAR- [sparen = to spare/to save... here SPAs weren't so trendy 10 years ago and German has always sounded so hi-tech ] 3D has to do with "rain action" paddles + holes in the back of drum too + a jet over the glass while filling

- @ AEG03 - cars - Yes, it's the same thing like Fiat (Fiat-Lancia-AlfaRomeo---- [[[[[Ferrari]]]]]). Peugeot & Citroen : surf to www.psa.fr .
Anyway WW is doing well with Skoda. Old Skodas (i.e. the ...Favorit *LOL*) were ugly,low quality cars. Today's Skodas are good quality cars that share many components with WW and Audi. Here Fabia Wagon with A/C is sold for 10000€ only. Other producers (Fiat too) don't have such a nice trade off price/quality

- Fuzzy logic - has a long history. Old, timer controlled Lavamats (i.e. L 665/year 1993) had Sensortronic device (suds controlled spins) and UKS (unbalance controlled spin)

Even old Mieles in the early 70s had a somewhat primordial fuzzy logic. I am very impressed by a vid where a old square door Miele with single knob on the "backsplash" (W420/421S ??) makes many fills to saturate a load of towels (due to high quality pressure switches). Other machines made just one fill (Candy, year 1988)

 

[aeg03]

I would love a machine like that 1995 Bosch. I remember those brochures and thought that those machines where very good ones, a lot better than the Bosch machines of today.

Rolls Rapde - I think my AEG has the 'intelligent door lock release' as when I press the Start/Pause button the door only unlocks if:

The water is below a certain level - this same system works on the rinse cycle to activate the Spin Rinse burts.

The water is below a certain temp.

The drum is not moving, exactly the same as the Zanussi models.

This feature is rather good because I hate waiting for the machine to unlock, like the 1996 Indesit we had, used to have to wait a full 2 minutes which got on my nerves lol

 

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Aeg03

My 1998 AEG would allow you to add clothes to the machine for a couple of minutes into the wash cycle.

If I remember correctly, after the final spin, at the intermittant end tumble, the 'door locked' LED would alternate between red and green. This allowed you to remove items quickly to prevent creases.

 

[sudsmaster]

I was told at the Miele dealership today that the latest models have WiFi built-in. If your home has a wireless network, the washer can be hooked up so that if it has a failure that it's been able to self-diagnose, it sends an alert to Miele over the Internet and the part(s) needed to fix it are ordered and a technician is dispatched (if still under warranty under service agreement).

Also that the Mieles now come with a five year standard warranty. Not too shabby!