Miele washer -- setting higher water level?

[mrboilwash]

W 435 plus?

could somebody guide me through the "soft water option", please ?

I have a German Miele W 435. It has been set to "soft water mode" by a service tech via a laptop computer. So far I am very happy with those high level rinses, but would love to have more control about it. (Going back to factory settings just for fun). However, the ownwers manual does not give any directions as to change the maximum rinse level.

 

[favorit]

Programmable functions Novotronic III - W800 W900

Stefan,
you have to look for the proper service manual like this one in the linked old thread. Note that the german service manual doesn't say "soft water mode" but "niveau III aktiv/level 3 active" during rinses of Colors/Boilwash, Minimum Iron, Mini , Mixed fabrics.
The default factory setting is named "spuelautomatik/automatic rinse level"

I'm afraid the Novotronic III instructions don't fit your machine : e.g, they make the wasserplus adjustment on "extraspuelen", while in your machine is made on "oeko-kochwaesche 75°C"

http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/ARCHIVE/MODERN/2008/18937x20.htm

 

[vintagesearch]

wooooooooooooooooow that miele is impressive a bit more water is better IMHO

 

[hcj1440]

Water type option?

Eddy -- first, just want to say a big Thank You for all your help and info. For now I have the sensitive option set at more water, but no extra rinse. Since I now have the soft water rinse level set, I feel too guilty about the extra rinse. Also, I am going to try the suds cool down next, which is a bit of a rinse in a way too, right?

After looking everything over, I think the only other one I might try is the water type option. The default is "hot water" but other options are "cold mains water", "soft water" and "rain water". I have very soft water here (water from yosemite/hetch hetchy with almost no mineral content). Would love any info you have on that one!

 

[favorit]

Holly,
the "suds cool down" is normally done on the "wrinkle free"/easy care/minimum iron/perma press" cycle (I mean that one named in german as "pflegeleicht") when you choose "warm 105°F" or higher temps. It is not a rinse : suds are gradually cooled down by dilution with cold water at the end of the main wash to reduce creasing due to thermal shock

Modern Mieles don't make anymore the cooldown on cottons/normal cycle as old machine did.
However *** the option you mean **** when enabled performs the cooldown when "normal" is set on "very hot 75°C" or boilwash/sanitize 95°C" to prevent scalding hazard in case the hose drains into a laundry tub

You have such a soft water ... you haven't to feel guilty to use sensitive extrarinse too. Anyway high spin speeds help a lot tto improve rinses

As for the "cold mains water/rain water/well water/hot water" settings don't mess with them.
All Miele machines with two fill hoses can be programmed to use "hot and cold fill" OR "cold hard water and cold soft water" OR "cold rain water and pipeline cold water" OR "well water and pipeline water". In North America they are just marketed as hot and cold fill machines.
Check this link to have a clue about double fill hose Mieles (aka Allwater models) in Europe :

http://www.miele.fr/fr/electromenager/produits/1141_28025.htm

 

[favorit]

water type options

I just realized I haven't explained WHY you have no worth to deal with water type options

First of all, if you change setting, you won't have the hot fill available anymore

The "soft water + hard water" is for those households that, having hard water fom pipelines, have a whole house water softener installed. The hard water hose is hooked to a waterline that bypasses the water softener, while the soft water one to the water softener pipeline. Soft water is used in prewash and mainwash to save detergents, while hard water is used to rinse, cause, as you know very well, it rinses much better

"Rain water + pipeline water". Rainwater is used in prew/mainw, pipeline water for rinses

 

[mrboilwash]

Favorit

You`re right it doesn`t fit. But thanks anyway !

 

[rayjay]

Miele Model 4842

Hi. I think it was posted before, but I copied it and cannot find it. I am looling to buy the 4842 and I think someone posted on how to make the water level higher in all cycyles on this model.

Can you help or post again?

Thanks so much

Ray

 

[mieleforme]

Miele Model 4842

Rayjay I sent you a copy of the service manual.

 

[eddy1210]

Hi Holly

I think your machine will only allow you to toggle between hot mains intake and cold mains intake, I think the other 2 are disabled on the North American machines (see Favorit's comment about the Allwater machine made but only available in Europe) If you choose the cold, you will end up with a longer wash time as it stops to heat the water to the correct temp. Don't feel guilty about adding a third rinse, especially for heavy fabrics and those diapers, you want them rinsed very well. Glad you're happy with the results!

 

[hcj1440]

Favorit and Eddy

You are both an absolute wealth of information. Thank you so much for helping me. Now that you tell me what the "cold water main", "hot water", "soft water" etc. notations stand for, it makes perfect sense. The tech manual is pretty cryptic but I guess they don't need to write out every detail for their own internal use.

P.S. I am going to try the suds cool down thing and see if it makes my sheets and cloth napkins less wrinkly! Guess I will have to use the Normal or Wrinkle free cycle to do it. I haven't used those two much because they look so short that mentally I've been thinking how can the load get clean -- I've been washing almost exclusively on the custom settings option. I've also been resisting the high spin on most things because of the wrinkle factor... which I am now learning from you does not do me any favors in the rinsing clean department. You are really changing the way I use my Miele (for the better, of course!).