Money for bad dishwasher board.

[combo52]

Reply number 27, hi Mike

That cardboard back on the back of your GE refrigerator is very important. It helps channel the air from the condenser fan over the compressor to keep the compressor cooler removing the back may make the compressor run hot under high temperature conditions and cause it to go out on the thermal overload. The back really must remain in place for proper operation.

In normal use these GE condensers never get dirty enough except an extreme cases and require cleaning. I would check it and clean it maybe every 10 years unless you have a severely dirty house or a lot of cats etc., that shed.

Even with a half inch thick layer of dust over the entire condenser it does not affect the performance of the refrigerator at all. It was designed to work with dirt on it as I mentioned before GE demonstrated this design with a 2 inch thick layer of fiberglass insulation wrapped around the condenser and the refrigerator performed just as well as a clean condenser.

 

[vacerator]

Thank you Combo. The right hand side is against a cabinet. The cardboard has been long gone. It was very flimsy. Not like GE used in the 80's.
The fridge doesn't owe us anything. Our neighbors have a newer GE in their basement and it's been fine for several years. Their kitchen fridge is a 81/2 year old Samsung that ices up, and rarely makes any ice. Their ready to pitch it for either another GE from Costco or, an LG because some publication rates them among the best.??

 

[DADoES]

Reply number 27, hi Mike

That cardboard back on the back of your GE refrigerator is very important. It helps channel the air from the condenser fan over the compressor to keep the compressor cooler removing the back may make the compressor run hot under high temperature conditions and cause it to go out on the thermal overload. The back really must remain in place for proper operation.

In normal use these GE condensers never get dirty enough except an extreme cases and require cleaning. I would check it and clean it maybe every 10 years unless you have a severely dirty house or a lot of cats etc., that shed.

Even with a half inch thick layer of dust over the entire condenser it does not affect the performance of the refrigerator at all. It was designed to work with dirt on it as I mentioned before GE demonstrated this design with a 2 inch thick layer of fiberglass insulation wrapped around the condenser and the refrigerator performed just as well as a clean condenser.

My 2004/2005 Arctica had the "jelly-roll"-type condenser. I cleaned it a few times by removing the rear panel and vacuuming the accessible exterior surface, then blowing the remainder off with an air compressor. The rear panel was metal with slots at the right side by the condenser. I understood that both the rear panel and the cardboard cover on the right end of the condenser "roll" are important regards to properly directing the airflow.

 

[pstehle]

My 10 year old "Black Friday" Homeless Despot Amana bottom freezer has the folded welded-wire condenser underneath. The only way to get it clean is to empty the fresh food section, roll it out from it's space and tip it back... seems like an awful design. If they'd rotated the coil 90 degrees, it could be vacuumed out from the kick panel. They only seemed to stock them for Black Friday, and they were $698 back then with stainless steel doors. Pretty darn good value compared to today's prices!

 

[combo52]

Reply number 34 and others

The condenser on a modern fan forced refrigerator does not need to be spotlessly clean for the refrigerator to work at top efficiency.

That Amana refrigerator you have with the condenser on the bottom is an excellent design. It was put in that way so that the worst dirt would accumulate at the front where it was easy to remove. If it had been put sideways it would’ve just filled up with dirt front to back. And the air would’ve just gone right through and not been pulled through the fins and over the tubes as efficiently.

As long as some air can get through the condenser, even though there’s a lot of dust and lint on it, it will still work as well as it did the day it was made on my KitchenAid refrigerator, and all refrigerator in the kitchen. I have never removed them from the wall, I’ve only cleaned the condensers from the front. They’ve been in there for 39 years. They’re both working great.

John L

 

[qsd-dan]

I pull the refrigerators out every new years day, remove the back, blow them out front and back with compressed air, and lubricate the condenser fan bearings with turbine oil. Before I had a compressor (over 20 years ago), I used an electric leaf blower. Messy, but very effective.

Other new years day chores include removing the dryer and cleaning the vent as well as removing and checking the anode rod on the water heater. T minus 5 days.

 

[phillymatt53]

I pull the refrigerators out every new years day, remove the back, blow them out front and back with compressed air, and lubricate the condenser fan bearings with turbine oil. Before I had a compressor (over 20 years ago), I used an electric leaf blower. Messy, but very effective.

Other new years day chores include removing the dryer and cleaning the vent as well as removing and checking the anode rod on the water heater. T minus 5 days.

All that is known as Preventive or Proactive Maintanance, and wise to do.
Just like changing the oil in the car - you want the machine to last.

 

[pstehle]

Reply number 34 and others

The condenser on a modern fan forced refrigerator does not need to be spotlessly clean for the refrigerator to work at top efficiency.

That Amana refrigerator you have with the condenser on the bottom is an excellent design. It was put in that way so that the worst dirt would accumulate at the front where it was easy to remove. If it had been put sideways it would’ve just filled up with dirt front to back. And the air would’ve just gone right through and not been pulled through the fins and over the tubes as efficiently.

As long as some air can get through the condenser, even though there’s a lot of dust and lint on it, it will still work as well as it did the day it was made on my KitchenAid refrigerator, and all refrigerator in the kitchen. I have never removed them from the wall, I’ve only cleaned the condensers from the front. They’ve been in there for 39 years. They’re both working great.

John L

Never thought of that. I had a buddy growing up with a big old side-by-side that was dying one hot summer. They bred poodles -20 to 25 in the house at any given time, don't even ask about the smell! I asked if they'd ever cleaned the condenser, which of course, they hadn't. After pulling a volume of hair and dust out that would've knitted a decent standard poodle's coat, it resumed it's task like it was new... A certain amount of crud is expected and designed for, but there's always a limit!

 

[Chetlaham]

Never thought of that. I had a buddy growing up with a big old side-by-side that was dying one hot summer. They bred poodles -20 to 25 in the house at any given time, don't even ask about the smell! I asked if they'd ever cleaned the condenser, which of course, they hadn't. After pulling a volume of hair and dust out that would've knitted a decent standard poodle's coat, it resumed it's task like it was new... A certain amount of crud is expected and designed for, but there's always a limit!

I could be that limit. I do a lot of fried food and of course the microwave vents into the kitchen (yuck) so everything ends up coated in grease.

 

[pstehle]

I could be that limit. I do a lot of fried food and of course the microwave vents into the kitchen (yuck) so everything ends up coated in grease.

I learned the hard way that putting a mini-split too close to the kitchen isn't a good idea. The whole insides of the evaporator unit get sticky with kitchen grease, which sticks the dust to it, so it's a much bigger chore to clean it.

 

[combo52]

Kitchen grease, etc.

I don’t understand why people would cook in a kitchen without a exhaust system that exhaust outdoors, by double wall of an is vented directly outdoors the two cooktops are vented outdoors with a downdraft system, and the slide in range on the other side of the kitchen has its own very high-quality range hood that’s vented beautifully outdoors.

We cook every day we fry and roast and everything else. It’s now been almost 39 years and I haven’t ever repainted or even so much is wiped the kitchen ceiling off. It looks like the day it was painted, to say nothing of the awful smell that not having properly vented appliances produces.

It’s not healthy either to breathe smoke and other cooking byproducts, I even made a mini range hood which ties into the larger range hood just for the toaster oven because I couldn’t stand the smell of doing even something simple like tater tots in the toaster oven without proper ventilation.

John L

 

[phillymatt53]

Kitchen grease, etc.

I don’t understand why people would cook in a kitchen without a exhaust system that exhaust outdoors,

John L

I wallpapered my kitchen 20 years ago.
It's still fresh and clean like I just put it up.
Any heavy cooking, I use the range hood, along with a twin-squirrelcage exhaust fan in the nearby window.

Some people have no common sense, or are just lazy.

 

[Chetlaham]

Unfortunately, that is what often comes with homes. A hood or over the range micro which vents inside. I hate it. My guess is cost. Builders just want something to be present vs something which actually works.

 

[phillymatt53]

Unfortunately, that is what often comes with homes. A hood or over the range micro which vents inside. I hate it. My guess is cost. Builders just want something to be present vs something which actually works.

I refuse to have an "over the rangetop" microwave oven.
I think it is just another stupid marketed appliance that gullible people would buy.
Marketed to "save counter space"..... yeah, ok!

First off, in order to fit this contraption above the stovetop, you need room.
You gotta be able to put pots on the stove.
That makes the microwave door high up in the air, above the rangehood area.
If you're a small person, you gotta reach way up to get that hot bowl of soup or stew out - and likely wind up spilling it on the stove or your own self.
Stupid!
Or a heavy roast - good luck with handling that!
I wonder how many have been burned by that stupid appliance?

Some products like this are not well thought out.