More about the Miele dishwasher

[foraloysius]

As some of you know I had a Miele dishwasher (G45, just like the one in the Miele Museum). As I was unable to hook it up in my kitchen because it was too wide I sold it to a member of the German club. He was looking for this same model and arranged shipment. I'm glad it has a new home now and it has been restored and used on a daily basis now. He sent me some pictures a while ago and told me the machine was restored with parts from several brands because not all original parts were available anymore.

 

[foraloysius]

Another picture, now with the door open.

 

[foraloysius]

Topless machine

 

[foraloysius]

Some new parts

 

[foraloysius]

Added water safety system and new power cord.

 

[appnut]

THANKS LUIGI!! That looks like quite a large hulk of a machine. And great inside pic, just what I wanted to see, it loaded.

 

[Unimatic1140]

That's just great Louis, it looks like its been restored beautifully! I wonder what it sounds like? Did you ever get to see it run?

 

[maytagbear]

That kitchen

is just a little too "Strength Through Joy" for me!

Thanks for posting, though, Louis.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[foraloysius]

Yes Lawrence, to each his own. LOL

Robert, no, I never saw this dishwasher run. The new owner lives close to Frankfurt, about 1000 kilometers from here, just a bit too far I'm afraid.

 

[panthera]

Frankfurt...1000Km?

Louis,
I am horrid at maps, but 1000Km? Could that be Frankfurt o.d.Oder?
Or did the Netherlands finally tire of their neighbours and go west?
Gonna be a lot of very unhappy folks if'n ya did. German brownies just don't seem to have the same...
Well, whatever.
Lawrence, honey, that is not a Kraft durch Freude style - those fools went in for big, dark, massive cluttered. The GE built in kitchens (one on the forums in yellow today) come closer to the style we had just before things went to hell over here.
This kitchen style - the close set tiles, the pine, knotty pine and, for a change, yellow pine is pretty much to be seen throughout central Europe. Many Europeans will do anything to avoid "Eiche rustikal".
The interesting thing about these Mieles, by the by, was the designed to run forever mentality. Anyone notice the way the uppermost spray is attached? Brass!

 

[foraloysius]

Keven, we floated away from Germany. LOL. But seriously, there was 1000km on the receipt I got. But ofcourse that was both ways. I didn't think. LOL

 

[jetcone]

Wow what year is that?

That load pattern looks an awful lot like my KD-14 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

But that machine shure has alot of other controls placed around the tub, what do they all do??
The KD-14 has a motor, water valve, drain valve & solenoid and pump.

jet

 

[westytoploader]

Thanks for posting Louis! That Miele G45 sure is a beautiful machine, and big too!!! Glad to see it's up and running again!

 

[foraloysius]

The differences? Two motors, one for the drain pump, one for the circulation pump. A flow through heating element. A rinse agent dispenser. All ofcourse need controls. Perhaps there are even more controls, but this is what I can think of now. And ofcourse major difference: The timer is on the top.

 

[toggleswitch]

Nice DW!

To temporarily hijack the thread for a moment.....

Love the stove/cooker in the background. Gas or electric?
Waht vintage/year? Daily driver? Thanks!

 

[frontaloadotmy]

Louis

Did you state the age of the G45? Any pics of the "unloaded"
innards available? Certainly looks like it can take care of business, almost industrial/commercial.

 

[foraloysius]

Darrel,

Here is the link to the pictures of this dishwasher when it was still in my shed. This machine is from the mid - late 60's.

Steve,

Yes, that is his daily driver. It's an electric stove. No idea of the age.

http://community.webshots.com/album/180608176wBCzoD

 

[frontaloadotmy]

Thanks for the link

Louis. Some serious wash arms!

 

[panthera]

general miele quality

One of the frequent comments (apologies) for crappy US quality products is that the companies can't survive otherwise and we have to pay attention to the bottom line.
This argument falls to pieces when you have - at the same price or cheaper - tangibly better quality coming in from Germany, aka Miele/Bosch/Siemens and on the low side of the equations superior quality for less money from (some) of the Chinese and Koreans.

Miele didn't really go for the uppermost quality market until things got tight in that broad general area of outstanding quality and high prices which characterised German products by the 1960's. It was a clear marketing decision. Beautiful as this machine is and well designed as it may be, it is a direct, capitalistic marketing approach to grow income.

Gosh, making money by building good quality. I wonder why no one in the car industry ever thought of that.
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(Note: That was irony. Please do not now write that I am an idiot --that need not be noted, one it is not nice, two-- it is true) and that is precisely what the Japenese did.)

 

[panthera]

well thank goodness for that - the Netherlande are still the

Of course, Louis, if you had taken Brussels with you (and I bet the rest of the Benelux would gladly have transfered them back to the throne of orange...), the rest of Europe might have dried our tears and taken "Butterfahrten" out to visit you.
Well, Amsterdam at least.
If I had my choice to do it all again, I think I would take a Miele washing machine from the early 80's, Miele Dishwasher just after this one's era (they were hell on crystal) and a big commercial Lindt absorber froster with a Sicamatic Deep Freeze and one of those Philips induction element ranges with the white glass-ceramic surface from the 70's.
What would you take?

 

[foraloysius]

Oh dear

Since I have a bit of a weak spot for toploaders I would take a Miele toploader (W484 for example) from the seventies, the ones with the controls on the front that you can match with a Miele dryer. Ofcours I would take the matching vented dryer too. Further a double Miele wall oven and an Atag gas cooktop, a fridge and a freezer from Gram and a Miele G500 or G550 dishwasher. Or perhaps a later generation one that is a bit less noisy.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/foraloysius/detail?.dir=b742&.dnm=13da.jpg&.src=ph

 

[tomturbomatic]

More Kitchen ?s

Louis, would it be possible for you to entertain a few more questions about the kitchen? Is that an instant water heater on the wall above the dishwasher? Is there a reason why the plumbing over the sink was installed so high that the "NEED VIAGRA" spout was used? Do you have any idea what that giant metal pan is that is on the stove? Could they be heating water for a bath in it? Could you find out if that is an old stove or a newer one? Thanks, Tom

 

[tomturbomatic]

Sorry, one more

Louis, thanks for the pictures from the in the shed days. Would you please tell me what the blue thing leaning against the Miele is in the last picture? Thank you, Tom

 

[foraloysius]

Tom,

I don't think that object above the diswasher is a water heater, a water heater would be white.

I'm not in touch with the owner of this kitchen, I'm afraid I can't tell you anything about the age of the stove. It might be fifties, it might be older.

The spout is actually quite a normal spout that was used often until the 80's. I have the same in my kitchen and my parents had the same too in their previous house. I guess this way of installing the plumbing originates from the early days of piped water when a single cold water tap was installed over a sink.

I have no idea about the big pan on the stove. I don't think it's a pan for heating bath water. LOL Could it be a deep frying pan?

The blue thing in the shed is the water softener. It has to be installed between the faucet and the dishwasher. It has to be filled with salt. The new owner wasn't going to use it, he was planning to use 3-in-1 tabs, tabs that include a cleaning powder, a softener and a rinse agent in one.

Louis

 

[gyrafoam]

Louis, thanks for the photos! That is a great looking machine. Looks like it would hold a big load!

 

[tomturbomatic]

Could it be a deep frying pan?

Louis, Thanks for the answers. While the term is "deep fat frying", I don't think the fat has to be that deep for anything except a turkey which is not fried inside the house and probably is unheard of in Germany. We manage to lose enough homes to fire when the good ole boys are drinking and deep frying turkeys on the deck or patio. Doing it inside would make the loss to fire just about 100% certain. I love the story about the doctor who was frying the turkey that had not quite completely thawed. When the ice turned to steam, the turkey exploded and part of the carcas was caught in the branches of a tree for months, which was incidental at the time because the patio was awash with burning oil. I would imagine the lingering looks of shock on the faces of the kids, the half-hidden smirks on the faces of the men and the looks that would kill from the women made that a pretty silent gathering around the holiday table, especially after the hostess exploded at the third mention of the incident and threatened the next person that brought it up with bodily harm.

 

[foraloysius]

Lovely story Tom! You can see turkey fly! Even after they are dead! LOL

My dictionary wasn't very clear about the word for it. Actually I think it could be an electric deep fryer. It looks like there are some "things" on the outside. Why it is on the stove then, I wouldn't know. Perhaps because of lack of counterspace. This kitchen looks like it doesn't have a lot of it.

 

[foraloysius]

Steve,

This dishwasher is wider than most dishwashers, it's almost 27 inches wide. I guess that helps with the capacity.