Most Maddening Washer Commerical

[Chetlaham]

Oh, much indeed. The most silent and stable washers all had a bottom mount suspension. Quiet, smooth agitation and shake free spin.

 

 

My Speed Queen is the best example of this, you can set cups on top of the machine during agitation and it handle moderate off balance loads the best. I can sit in the room directly across from the laundry and not feel a thing through the floor.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

buttery smooth

I love Speed Queen Classic's buttery smooth agitation. I can put my ear to the top of the machine and realize that it's the most buttery smooth sounding machine I've ever heard in my lifetime. This is especially true when you compare it to GE.

 

[maytag85]

Oh my goodness, can you please stop Jerome! We’ve heard about this who knows how many times.

Jerome claims to be blind, but I think Jerome is blind to reality. Literally keeps on repeating and rehashing the same thing over and over and over into infinity. It’s beginning to get BEYOND annoying and aggravating. I know I’ve posted a few times in threads in the archives, but this is beyond ridiculous and absurd.

Reminder, better to have quality posts, not quantity.

I’m almost considering on logging off and not posting for a solid month since Jerome is pushing me to the brink of losing my mental sanity. Going to create a thread about resurrecting my Whirlpool at some point, but that will probably be postponed to November. Since John was kind enough to send a parts timer, obligated to create a thread about giving my Whirlpool a new lease on life since that helped me repair the timer. Seriously getting to the point of taking a break from the site, no animosity towards anyone, just need a break from this repetitive-ness.

It’s a waste a time to keep dwelling on something that’s neither here nor there as this point.

 

[Chetlaham]

Speed Queen is very smooth, and quiet. You can HEAR the water gently sloshing around, the outer tub and suspension tugs only slightly. Very pleasing, light and gentle on the ears. No scary screeching or self destruction noises.  

 

[combo52]

Smooth Soothing agitation

Wow, now Jerome And Chet Are promoting the TR Speed Queen top load washers, there’s nothing particularly soothing about the TC models with all the noise they make with loud inefficient out of balance Split phase, The Noisi, water pump, idler pulley and crude belt and transmission. if you’re talking about smooth and soothing, you’re talking about the TR or of course, the Speed Queen front load machines.

John

 

[Chetlaham]

Nope, listen to a TC compared to a Model T or even a direct drive. Much smoother. Pump isn't noisy, I don't hear it in agitation and it doesn't loudly gurgle during spin like a mode T pump. Belt isn't crude, its a name brand Goodyear which also acts as a clutch, ingenious. 

 

If you really wanted to call things out, and I'm surprised you haven't said this already as its the only major flaw with TC Speed Queens, call out the tub brake on the TC. It bangs loudly every time the transmission reverses direction in agitation.  

 

TR is much quieter in agitation than a TC, I'll give you that. Though its just not worth the agi tub design.

 

[combo52]

Chet you bring criticism upon yourself because you’re trying to be completely anonymous but you can’t have any credibility if you don’t have credibility.

You’ve refused for years to even use a first name. Tell people what you actually do what your profession is what part of the world you live in, etc. etc.

All I can say is your poor parents are they still alive even.

 

[Chetlaham]

Nice try.

 

Given that you've threatened to blackmail other members along with your denigration of site users based on occupation, income, beliefs, history, likes/dislikes, disability, education, ect I'm not going to post any personally identifiable information about myself or any information that could be used against me. No matter how benign.

 

We both know the term credibility is not being used in a genuine sense. Rather as a motivator in getting me to reveal more about self in hopes of finding something or anything that could be used to invalidate me.

 

 

Never feed internet detractors.

 

 

 

[maytag85]

Reply #73 doesn’t make much, if any sense at all. If that particular model was based on something from the 1960’s, there would be a heck of lot more steel in the design along with a heavy cast iron transmission.

I know, I have a lot more mechanical experience since I have been through my Whirlpool countless times. The suspension system on the belt drives have essentially a rubber ball at the end of each of the 3 suspension rods that are held in firmly to the base, held in firmly at the top as well. There’s a snubber pad which puts pressure on the tub ring to hold the tub firmly in place along with dampening things a little.

Almost any of those GEs with the rod suspension or anything of today’s offerings simply don’t use a snubber or have rubber balls at either end of the suspension rods which are held firmly in place, don’t have a metal baseplate either to support the tub and transmission.

If those GEs really were based off of a 1940’s design, technology really, they would have a snubber and overall would have a stiffer suspension not to mention a lot more steel and iron in the design.

I may be in my mid 20’s, but have a lot more experience with those Whirlpool belt drives, older machines in general. Don’t have to have a lifetime of experience to have wisdom under your belt. From my experience, never turn down one’s wisdom or experience, even if it’s someone who’s a little younger but has more mechanical and electrical experience.

 

[Chetlaham]

I am referring to the concept of hanging the cabinet from the frame- not the the transmission or other aspects.

 

You do have mechanical experience no doubt, however you claim that modern washers or Model Ts don't have a snubber. Model Ts do indeed have a snubber- of them in fact- which serve a similar purpose as Whirlpool's snubber in preventing the tub from moving to much or hitting the cabinet during spin under normal conditions.

 

 

 WH1X2727

 

 

 

 

While GE calls them dampening straps, Whirlpool refers to them snubbers:

 

https://partsdr.com/part/326000047-...MI7rGd8vHRiAMV-E9HAR3KVQKGEAQYBCABEgIFzPD_BwE
 

 

All 4 point washers have these snubber straps. 

 

As you've already mentioned, Whirlpool was the first to do hang their top load tub from the cabinet that I know of in the late 1940s. 

 

Latter in the 60s Whirlpool's 3 rod rubber ball concept was refined in the Asian and latter Australian market to use 4 rods, having the tub rest on compression springs at the bottom of the machine, and a plastic ball socket at the top of the cabinet. 

 

I recommend you research GE's Hitachi washers:

 

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?96701_6~1
 

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?86457
 

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?31435
 

 

 

The concept was then adapted to Whirlpool's compact and Portable washers. GE did the same with the Model Ts, however Model Ts used an actual transmission, self activating brake and clutch instead of a mode shifter splutch, reduction gear case, and solenoid actuated brake band.

 

All 5 machines original WP belt drive, world washers, model T and modern VMWs all hang from the cabinet.   

[this post was last edited: 9/20/2024-11:04]

 

[maytag85]

Reply #88

Clearly, this is an AI bot. I checked this thread about 5 minutes ago, then I come back 5 minutes later then I see a picture what appears to be car suspension components, and a bunch of other stuff added.

Usually if something edits a post, will see small red letters on the bottom left hand corner, but this time I don’t see anything.

Something is definitely up with Chetlaham and Jerome.

 

[Chetlaham]

Not car suspension components, rather dampening straps. There are 4 of them in each model T and Modern VMW.

 

 

Here is a vid:

 

 

 

[DADoES]

 
Whirlpool's snubber doesn't have as much effect as may be presumed.  Vintage service literature states that it should prevent a 4-1/2 pound weight from causing the tub to impact the cabinet during spin.  4-1/2 lbs.

Not to mention that the early models with the original tub ring design that's fully open (no raised interior edge) to water splashing during agitation at lower fill levels, soapy/slippery water substantially reduces the snubber's friction.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

strap knocking

I remember in 2004, the washer would make a knocking sound when the agitation started. I suspect it had something to do with the suspension straps. As it progressed, the noise would discipate.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

model t

Why did GE call their washers model t? It sounds like they stole that name from Ford.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

to chetlaham

This was especially true for super sized loads when the washer twisted and shifted when on normal/fast. It did get my family's clothes clean though.

 

[Chetlaham]

The 4 point hanging assmebly design never belonged in a super capacity central agitator washer. The model T was simply a role play toy to extract the remaining wealth out of GE's name. It worked exactly as intended, for GE only. 

 

[gelaundry4ever]

GE today

It seems that GE today doesn't care. I'm still trying to figure out why GE named their plastic tub washers model T.