Movie For A Rainy Saturday Night - Mildred Pierce!

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Here's me in on a cool, damp and wet Saturday night. Turned on telly to PBS to find they are showing "Mildred Pierce"!

Just the thing, now off to get a bevvy and some snacks.

Oh, three bonus points for anyone who can tie the film into the topic of laundry!

L.
 
Words to hurt

Didn't Veda kvetch to Mildred about: "You've never spoken of your people, how your mother took in washing..."

My personal favorite in the movie: Eve Arden on the ladder being eyed by Zachary Scott. "Leave something on - I might catch cold."
 
Great movie I've seen a few times but cannot think of a laundry tie-in at the mo. grrrrrr

As for other another good oldie to look out for, two actually with the same title is "Imitation of Life" based on the same story but done totally differently

The original 1934 version with Claudette Colbert and Louise Beavers as Delilah.. sort of the Aunt Jemima story version, really about pancakes LOL

The second release in 1959 with Lana Turner, Juanita Moore and Sandra Dee..

both films same premise... White woman and daughter fall on hard times.. meet black woman with "white looking" daughter. Become friends and go into biz together making a lot of money.. but the "passing" daughter can't handle her dark skinned mother because she's embarassed which is the gist of both stories..until the end. You'll need a hankie
 
PTCruiser Got It

After Veda blackmails 10G out of her ex-hubby's family claiming to be with child, she and Mildred have it out. Veda calls her a "middle-aged frump whose father wore overalls and her mother took in washing".

Personally would have taken Veda over my knee often and frequently until she got the point.

"Imitation of Life".

My cousin sat me down one holiday to watch this film (the 1950's version), laying a bet that by the end I would cry, and I did. That beautiful old southern funeral, and how one supposed "poor" black woman, who worked as a maid did so much good in the community, and her own daughter didn't realise it until it was too late.

IIRC, the film was HOTLY debated and perhaps not shown all over the South. The idea of a light skinned negress "passing" touched a few too many nerves. Not that it didn't happen, persons just didn't want the work to get out.

IofL is not a "film noir" like MP, there isn't any crime, just a b&w film about women, their daughters and problems of children not happy with their lot and drying to be something they are not.
 
Have Seen The 1934 Version

As well, was on PBS late one night years ago.

Now, if you want "scandalous" movie, I'd vote for "All That Heaven Allows". Imagine being forced to give up Rock Hudson (in his prime), for the sake of two bratty children.

Respectable widow or not, I would have chucked the children out and moved Rock in. One can always find new friends, and seeing the grandchildren is highly over rated! *LOL*
 
"Imitation of Life" That's Ms. Mahalia Jackson that sings the solo at the funeral, gets me every time too. Ms. Lana, had a gorgeous kitchen in "Imitation" iirc it was a Frigidaire cooktop, and 2 built in ovens. alr2903
 
OMG!!!!

That was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen on YouTube lol. I watched the entire parody and the guys who made this did a few others, the Mommie Dearest one is priceless! You've gotta see it if you haven't already!
 
"All That Heaven Allows"

A truly great film on how hard it is for people who dare to follow their heart. The nastiness of the children (for their mother's own good, of course) is breathtakingly well portrayed.

And yes, Rock stretched out on a couch is delightful. He really, really milks that for all it's worth. I don't think even Vivien Leigh came close to him for doing the 'been wronged by my man (er, woman) cliché.
 
I'm a fan of director Michael Curtiz, who in addition to Mildred Pierce also directed Casablanca, Yankee Doodle Dandy (Cagney sings and dances!), White Christmas and one of the few decent Elvis films, King Creole (which was on TCM last night).

Mildred Pierce also sports two of my favorite character actors from the 1940s-50s: Eve Arden and Jack Carson. They were good in any film they graced, even if the film itself was not top-shelf.
 
Another vintage zinger is "The Bad Seed", from some time in the 1950's. It's appropriately creepy and suspenseful. And it features another of my favorite character actors from the period, Eileen Heckart.

If you haven't seen it and you like campy, old black and white films, you should look for it. It plays on TCM every now and then.
 
One of Joan's best movie

My favorite line in this movie is "Get out, Veda. Get your things out of this house right now before I throw them into the street and you with them. Get out before I kill you!!! " Has anyone ever noticed that when Joan was filmed up close, that there was a shadow about her neck? I guess she did not like her neck very much.
 
Dig those Adrian shoulders!

I've seen Mildred Pierce many times, and like most classics, it gets better with each viewing. If you want a real laugh, watch Mildred before or after Mommie Dearest. The intersections are interesting. I believe Joan was an abusive mother but I can't help wondering how much of Vida was a part of the real Christina. We'll never know but I would have loved to have heard Joan's side of the story. Pity this was made in the Forties, Joan and Eve couldn't had a nifty little sidebar.
 
Yay!

Loooove Mildred Pierce... I've seen it many times.

We actually went to see it on the 'big screen' at a local theatre on Thursday night this past week. It was a cold, rainy night -- much like the night Mildred was dropped off at home to find that Kay had come down with pneumonia.

It was incredible seeing it on the big screen--I was able to pick up on so much detail that had gone previously unnoticed. Not so much plot wise--but sets, and things in the background..

Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is playing at the end of the month.. that's the next one on the list.

Here's a link to other movies they'll be playing -- scroll down a bit. I may bug Robert to see some of those other movies as well as Baby Jane... :-)

~F

http://www.heightstheater.com/
 
A great classic, better each time, n'est ce pas, Mother?

Surprised the health department hasn't banned the film because of the restaurant kitchen scene where La Crawford is shown flouring chicken with her bare hands then turns around and immediately puts a big handful of french fries on a plate going out of the kitchen.

BTW, other than becoming the spokesperson for Hostess Snack Cakes, what else did Ann Blyth do? (let's not forget the famous Carol Burnett spoof on her - Ann Bluth for Hostie snack cakes...)
 
Oh Yes, Bugsy!

Great minds think alike. I had the same thought in mind about MP Redone before I got to your post. There were parts where I couldn't stop laughing.

I think Part 4 is the funniest!
 
In a weak moment I bought a set of Crawford classics at Costco on DVD. Mildred Pierce was OK but I didn't see how it warranted an Oscar. Maybe Crawford did more than her usual amount of "lobbying" to get votes.

Last night our local PBS station showed "Thelma and Louise", which I'd never watched from start to finish (I have seen the famous final scene before). That's an OK flick too... and Gina Davis sure looks hot during most of it... not to mention an early bad-boy Brad Pitt...
 
Fred--- Don't those classic old black-and-white films look stunning on the big screen? I went to Moorhead State University (Moorhead, MN) back in the late '70s, and they showed old films in the campus theater almost every Sunday evening. The audience consisted mostly of film students and senior citizens from the community, and I went as often as I could.

You haven't really experienced films like Mildred Pierce or A Streetcar Named Desire or Double Indemnity until you've seen them in a theater. They almost seemed 3D.
 
Too funny: I didn't follow the link in your post, Fred, and was just going to ask if you guys ever go to The Heights theater! The place is so beautifully restored, the owner is a wonderful guy, and every once in awhile they get a star from the past to make an appearance and speak before they show one of their films.

I'm on The Heights's e-mail list, but my work life is such that I'm not able to get to Mpls. as often as I used to. I miss the weekend "crawl" through all the great little indie art galleries in NE Minneapolis, too.
 
Ann Blyth did a memorable "Queen of the Nile" role on "The Twilight Zone". I find her repulsive on so many levels. I think Carol Burnett had the best solution for Vida(who was played pitch-perfectly by Vicki Lawrence).
 
Joan was awarded the Academy Award more so as an acknowledgment of her miraculous career comeback, rather than her portrayal of Mrs Pierce. If anyone lobbied for the award its more likely Jack Warner did it with the hopes of knocking Bette Davis off her perch as the "fifth Warner Brother".

Crawford films such as Possessed (with Van Heflin), Sudden Fear, Harriet Craig and Autumn Leaves are just as good if not better than Mildred Pierce, IMO.

Davis is certainly a more versatile and natural actress than Crawford, but Crawford had a better figure/body and was a star WAY before Davis arrived in Hollywood. Davis once remarked that Crawford slept with every male player at MGM except Lassie! Jealous, perhaps??

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Shocking for the 1950s

My older cousins took me to see "Imitation of Life", I remember how the audience did a collective gasp when Troy Donohue utters the "N" word in his confrontation with the teenage daughter who's trying to "pass".

A movie-buff friend mentioned to me once about "southern prints" of movies. One we watched together was a 1950s Rock & Roll movie that featured the Platters singing one of their hits. You see them singing from the side, beyond a series of columns. He said film-makers thought it unwise to show them singing to a white audience. I caught something similar in the Glenn Miller movie "Orchestra Wives". The Nicholas Brothers do a tap dance routine, but it's shown on a movie screen in a recording studio rather than seeing them "live". Peculiar things to see nowadays.

BTW, I watched "Mildred" on Laundress' suggestion. I forgot in the opening scene she says, "It seemed was always in the kitchen, except for the short time it took to get married, cooking, doing laundry, always in the kitchen..."
 
Rich:

Brettsomers has it right - Crawford's Best Actress Oscar was for a combination of things. It was part longevity award (Crawford made her first movie in 1925), part acting award (Mildred Pierce offered Joan a lot more to work with than the Depression-era shopgirl roles she'd specialised in at M-G-M), and part whip-cracking over Bette Davis. A big part of the reason Jack Warner had signed Crawford in the first place was as a "threat" to Bette, who had become a monumental pain in the keester. On Mr. Skeffington (1944), Davis had misbehaved and held up shooting so much that the movie's producers, Philip and Julius Epstein, had walked off their own picture - a situation I do not find repeated anywhere in Hollywood history. Warner's idea was to hold the threat of Joan over Bette's head by giving Joan parts Bette wanted if Bette was in one of her difficult moods.

Although Warner does not ever seem to have actually given Joan a part originally intended for Bette, the threat of having another big female star on the Warner lot worked very well. Joan got the Best Actress Oscar for Mildred Pierce in '45, got excellent reviews and box-office in 1946's Humoresque (the best of all Joan's movies, IMHO, though the lady herself didn't like how it turned out), and another Best Actress nomination in '47 for Possessed (unrelated to a 1931 movie of the same title Joan had made with Clark Gable).

Bette never recovered from this triple whammy of Joan's, evidently losing some of her confidence. She began making stinkers (1948's Winter Meeting and the same year's June Bride among them), and in 1949, she got into such fights with director King Vidor on the set of Beyond the Forest that Warner called a summit meeting. Bette, wanting Vidor off the picture, told Warner: "It's him or it's me!" Weary of Bette's didoes, Warner didn't bat an eye: "Okay, Bette - it's you!" Shocked beyond measure, Davis quietly finished the picture and packed up her dressing room.

It's this situation that led to the epic feud between Crawford and Davis, which was much more Davis's doing than Crawford's - Joan actually admired Bette's accomplishments on-screen. But Bette was too humiliated ever to let it go, as Joan would find out to her cost years later on Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte, where Bette played such mind games with Joan that Joan took to her bed (and some say the bottle). Bette got Joan replaced with Davis's good friend Olivia de Havilland; the scenes Crawford had finished were re-shot.

It didn't help that Bette and Joan had been offered a choice of straight salary or a percentage for Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? - Bette took the salary ($350,000, if I'm correctly informed), and Joan took the percentage. Baby Jane was a monster hit (no pun intended!) and Joan ended up with around $2 million for her work on the film - at a time when Elizabeth Taylor's $1 million salary for Cleopatra (1962) was headline news.

Anyway, Joan was a great star, and Bette was a great star, and it's a damn shame that studio politics set them at such odds. Their pairing in Baby Jane was dynamite, and it would have been nice to see them work together in several hit movies, showing Hollywood that you didn't have to be twenty-one to pack a theatre - a lesson Tinseltown has yet to learn.
 
Joan's alliance with MGM was also an advantage as far as elegance and star-power were concerned.

While I am a huge fan of Warner Brothers films which were generally more gritty, hard-hitting and realistic, you can't deny that MGM was untouchable when it came to budgets for lavish sets/costumes, and producing movies which were ultra-slick and glamorous.

King Vidor is another of my favorite directors from that period: Show People, Stella Dallas, The Champ, The Crowd, and he took over The Wizard Of Oz when Victor Fleming was pulled to replace George Cukor (my favorite '30s-'40's director) on Gone With The Wind.

Family Matters: Show People starred gay hunk William Haines, who was Joan Crawford's lifelong best friend. Gay director George Cukor was fired from GWTW at Clark Gable's insistence when Cukor made an on-set joke at Gable's expense about a rumored alcohol-fueled gay experience Gable had before he became a star.

If I had to pick a favorite era for films, it would be 1925-1955. I can't imagine film without modern directors like Gus Van Sant, Jim Jarmusch and Quentin Tarantino, but I have a real soft spot for Cukor, Howard Hawks, William Wellman, W.S. Van Dyke, Frank Capra, Jack Conway andLeo McCarey, to name a few...
 
Frigilux:

Actually, Jack Warner's first choice for Threat to Bette was M-G-M's Norma Shearer, who was winding up her contract with Metro in '42 with a couple of lightweight movies that were not anything like the "prestige" pictures Norma was famous for - think 1938's Marie Antoinette. But Warner miscalculated; he offered Norma a role in 1943's Old Acquaintance, opposite Bette. Unfortunately, Norma got it into her head that she was to play Kit Marlowe, the writer who writes fine books. When she found out that Warner actually wanted her to play Millie Drake - a writer of trashy novels - Norma bowed out in a cold fury, saying she did not want to play "this brittle hussy." What was going on was that Kit was the starring role, and Millie was the secondary one; in all the long years of Norma's career, she'd never played a co-starring part - and she wasn't about to start doing it at Warner Bros.

Jack Warner assigned the role of Millie to Miriam Hopkins, and one writer quotes him as laughing and saying, "The perfect offscreen b***h to play the perfect onscreen b***h." Norma, newly married to her skiing instructor, hunk Martin-Jacques Arrouge (seventeen years her junior, no less!), declared her retirement official and never made another movie.

Tongues wagged over Norma and her so-called boy toy, but the marriage lasted for forty-one years, until Norma's death. Arrouge became a big name in professional skiing venues, instrumental in readying Squaw Valley for the 1960 Winter Olympics. I have been writing and researching about Norma for a very long time now, and I have yet to uncover a credible report of any indiscretion on the part of Norma or Marti. So, while the lady chose unconventionally, she seems to have chosen wisely.
 
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