Movie For A Rainy Saturday Night - Mildred Pierce!

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Oh Yes, Bugsy!

Great minds think alike. I had the same thought in mind about MP Redone before I got to your post. There were parts where I couldn't stop laughing.

I think Part 4 is the funniest!
 
In a weak moment I bought a set of Crawford classics at Costco on DVD. Mildred Pierce was OK but I didn't see how it warranted an Oscar. Maybe Crawford did more than her usual amount of "lobbying" to get votes.

Last night our local PBS station showed "Thelma and Louise", which I'd never watched from start to finish (I have seen the famous final scene before). That's an OK flick too... and Gina Davis sure looks hot during most of it... not to mention an early bad-boy Brad Pitt...
 
Fred--- Don't those classic old black-and-white films look stunning on the big screen? I went to Moorhead State University (Moorhead, MN) back in the late '70s, and they showed old films in the campus theater almost every Sunday evening. The audience consisted mostly of film students and senior citizens from the community, and I went as often as I could.

You haven't really experienced films like Mildred Pierce or A Streetcar Named Desire or Double Indemnity until you've seen them in a theater. They almost seemed 3D.
 
Too funny: I didn't follow the link in your post, Fred, and was just going to ask if you guys ever go to The Heights theater! The place is so beautifully restored, the owner is a wonderful guy, and every once in awhile they get a star from the past to make an appearance and speak before they show one of their films.

I'm on The Heights's e-mail list, but my work life is such that I'm not able to get to Mpls. as often as I used to. I miss the weekend "crawl" through all the great little indie art galleries in NE Minneapolis, too.
 
Ann Blyth did a memorable "Queen of the Nile" role on "The Twilight Zone". I find her repulsive on so many levels. I think Carol Burnett had the best solution for Vida(who was played pitch-perfectly by Vicki Lawrence).
 
Joan was awarded the Academy Award more so as an acknowledgment of her miraculous career comeback, rather than her portrayal of Mrs Pierce. If anyone lobbied for the award its more likely Jack Warner did it with the hopes of knocking Bette Davis off her perch as the "fifth Warner Brother".

Crawford films such as Possessed (with Van Heflin), Sudden Fear, Harriet Craig and Autumn Leaves are just as good if not better than Mildred Pierce, IMO.

Davis is certainly a more versatile and natural actress than Crawford, but Crawford had a better figure/body and was a star WAY before Davis arrived in Hollywood. Davis once remarked that Crawford slept with every male player at MGM except Lassie! Jealous, perhaps??

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Shocking for the 1950s

My older cousins took me to see "Imitation of Life", I remember how the audience did a collective gasp when Troy Donohue utters the "N" word in his confrontation with the teenage daughter who's trying to "pass".

A movie-buff friend mentioned to me once about "southern prints" of movies. One we watched together was a 1950s Rock & Roll movie that featured the Platters singing one of their hits. You see them singing from the side, beyond a series of columns. He said film-makers thought it unwise to show them singing to a white audience. I caught something similar in the Glenn Miller movie "Orchestra Wives". The Nicholas Brothers do a tap dance routine, but it's shown on a movie screen in a recording studio rather than seeing them "live". Peculiar things to see nowadays.

BTW, I watched "Mildred" on Laundress' suggestion. I forgot in the opening scene she says, "It seemed was always in the kitchen, except for the short time it took to get married, cooking, doing laundry, always in the kitchen..."
 
Rich:

Brettsomers has it right - Crawford's Best Actress Oscar was for a combination of things. It was part longevity award (Crawford made her first movie in 1925), part acting award (Mildred Pierce offered Joan a lot more to work with than the Depression-era shopgirl roles she'd specialised in at M-G-M), and part whip-cracking over Bette Davis. A big part of the reason Jack Warner had signed Crawford in the first place was as a "threat" to Bette, who had become a monumental pain in the keester. On Mr. Skeffington (1944), Davis had misbehaved and held up shooting so much that the movie's producers, Philip and Julius Epstein, had walked off their own picture - a situation I do not find repeated anywhere in Hollywood history. Warner's idea was to hold the threat of Joan over Bette's head by giving Joan parts Bette wanted if Bette was in one of her difficult moods.

Although Warner does not ever seem to have actually given Joan a part originally intended for Bette, the threat of having another big female star on the Warner lot worked very well. Joan got the Best Actress Oscar for Mildred Pierce in '45, got excellent reviews and box-office in 1946's Humoresque (the best of all Joan's movies, IMHO, though the lady herself didn't like how it turned out), and another Best Actress nomination in '47 for Possessed (unrelated to a 1931 movie of the same title Joan had made with Clark Gable).

Bette never recovered from this triple whammy of Joan's, evidently losing some of her confidence. She began making stinkers (1948's Winter Meeting and the same year's June Bride among them), and in 1949, she got into such fights with director King Vidor on the set of Beyond the Forest that Warner called a summit meeting. Bette, wanting Vidor off the picture, told Warner: "It's him or it's me!" Weary of Bette's didoes, Warner didn't bat an eye: "Okay, Bette - it's you!" Shocked beyond measure, Davis quietly finished the picture and packed up her dressing room.

It's this situation that led to the epic feud between Crawford and Davis, which was much more Davis's doing than Crawford's - Joan actually admired Bette's accomplishments on-screen. But Bette was too humiliated ever to let it go, as Joan would find out to her cost years later on Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte, where Bette played such mind games with Joan that Joan took to her bed (and some say the bottle). Bette got Joan replaced with Davis's good friend Olivia de Havilland; the scenes Crawford had finished were re-shot.

It didn't help that Bette and Joan had been offered a choice of straight salary or a percentage for Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? - Bette took the salary ($350,000, if I'm correctly informed), and Joan took the percentage. Baby Jane was a monster hit (no pun intended!) and Joan ended up with around $2 million for her work on the film - at a time when Elizabeth Taylor's $1 million salary for Cleopatra (1962) was headline news.

Anyway, Joan was a great star, and Bette was a great star, and it's a damn shame that studio politics set them at such odds. Their pairing in Baby Jane was dynamite, and it would have been nice to see them work together in several hit movies, showing Hollywood that you didn't have to be twenty-one to pack a theatre - a lesson Tinseltown has yet to learn.
 
Joan's alliance with MGM was also an advantage as far as elegance and star-power were concerned.

While I am a huge fan of Warner Brothers films which were generally more gritty, hard-hitting and realistic, you can't deny that MGM was untouchable when it came to budgets for lavish sets/costumes, and producing movies which were ultra-slick and glamorous.

King Vidor is another of my favorite directors from that period: Show People, Stella Dallas, The Champ, The Crowd, and he took over The Wizard Of Oz when Victor Fleming was pulled to replace George Cukor (my favorite '30s-'40's director) on Gone With The Wind.

Family Matters: Show People starred gay hunk William Haines, who was Joan Crawford's lifelong best friend. Gay director George Cukor was fired from GWTW at Clark Gable's insistence when Cukor made an on-set joke at Gable's expense about a rumored alcohol-fueled gay experience Gable had before he became a star.

If I had to pick a favorite era for films, it would be 1925-1955. I can't imagine film without modern directors like Gus Van Sant, Jim Jarmusch and Quentin Tarantino, but I have a real soft spot for Cukor, Howard Hawks, William Wellman, W.S. Van Dyke, Frank Capra, Jack Conway andLeo McCarey, to name a few...
 
Frigilux:

Actually, Jack Warner's first choice for Threat to Bette was M-G-M's Norma Shearer, who was winding up her contract with Metro in '42 with a couple of lightweight movies that were not anything like the "prestige" pictures Norma was famous for - think 1938's Marie Antoinette. But Warner miscalculated; he offered Norma a role in 1943's Old Acquaintance, opposite Bette. Unfortunately, Norma got it into her head that she was to play Kit Marlowe, the writer who writes fine books. When she found out that Warner actually wanted her to play Millie Drake - a writer of trashy novels - Norma bowed out in a cold fury, saying she did not want to play "this brittle hussy." What was going on was that Kit was the starring role, and Millie was the secondary one; in all the long years of Norma's career, she'd never played a co-starring part - and she wasn't about to start doing it at Warner Bros.

Jack Warner assigned the role of Millie to Miriam Hopkins, and one writer quotes him as laughing and saying, "The perfect offscreen b***h to play the perfect onscreen b***h." Norma, newly married to her skiing instructor, hunk Martin-Jacques Arrouge (seventeen years her junior, no less!), declared her retirement official and never made another movie.

Tongues wagged over Norma and her so-called boy toy, but the marriage lasted for forty-one years, until Norma's death. Arrouge became a big name in professional skiing venues, instrumental in readying Squaw Valley for the 1960 Winter Olympics. I have been writing and researching about Norma for a very long time now, and I have yet to uncover a credible report of any indiscretion on the part of Norma or Marti. So, while the lady chose unconventionally, she seems to have chosen wisely.
 
A Letter To Three Wives

Want something fun for a wet day? Or when doing the ironing?

Look no further than A Letter To Three Wives. Overshadowed by All About Eve (and thats a good one for ironing too) which was the following year, its dripping with fantastic one liners. For those who don't know the film its a three segment story told in flashback.

Joe Mankiewiez writing, with Linda Darnell, Ann Southern and the WONDERFUL Thelma Ritter, it just HAS to be good

This is my favourite segment, starting about 1min 40 sec in ....

 
What the hell!!!

Freakin YouTube took off the videos! The Mildred Pierce and Mommie Dearest and they were hilarious! And why wait a year after they had been posted to take them off? Man this sucks!
 
It Takes Awhile

For copyright issues to reach the proper lawyers and such, but sooner or later many things are taken down from Youtube.

We are quite unhappy that many vintage Buggs Bunny cartoons have been removed. Apparently WB wants everyone to purchase the sanitised versions out on DVD.
 
"Lora Mae Let Ur Sister In The Bathroom"!

*LOL*

Have seen "Letter To Three Wives" a time or two, also thanks to local PBS station. Found it interesting in that post WWII surburban grasping, climbing wives sort of way.

Thelma Ritter is the only one anyone could ever want for a maid. Her crack about the maid's uniform, how the hat makes her "look like a lamb chop", is priceless.
 
Barbara Stanwyck

Was first draft choice pick to play MP, and one wonders what she would have done with the role.

First came across Miss. Stanwyck when up late watching a late movie on PBS, and it turned out to be "Lady of Burlesque", which was great. Watching BS bump, grind and wise-crack her way through a murder mystery was quite funny. Next film saw her in was the famous "Strange Love of Martha Ivers", and suddenly realised just how EVIL woman can be if she makes her mind up to it. Double Indemnity, further cemented in my mind just how wicked a woman Miss. Stanwyck could play. The kind that would smile sweetly whilst serving up coffee laced with hemlock.
 
Joan Crawford and James Dean Trivia

Bringing two threads into one, and keeping on topic:

Joan Crawford lived and died not to far from us in an apartment complex on East 66th Street. Grace Kelly amoung other famous theatre and Hollywood stars lived there at one time as well.

It so happens James Dean's townhouse is on the same block, and only several streets down, (East 61st Street). The house has been sold several times since Mr. Dean's death, and not sure who the new owner's are, but they and most everyone (at least those whom live in the street/area), know about the house. It is just around the corner from Bloomingdale's.
 

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