My new Maytag A407

[LaVidaBoem]

Timer>>Robbin

Hello, as Combo52 states, that is your problem.

 

Now with that said, yes, you can open them up.

What you will find is that as the timer is approaching a new detent, the points for that position are burned, corroded, or just gone.

You are advancing it just slightly for it to continue to feed the timer circuit, even though you are just stopping/restarting the machine.

Very typical on Whirlpool/Kenmore dryers with age on them.

I have fixed many although it is more time consuming than it is probably worth.

 

Hope this Helps,

LaVidaBoem

 

[sel8207]

spring replacement

1975 806 unit here. Had similar problem with it being slow to agitate. Took off one the springs, went to Ace hardware, found a very similar replacement spring. Reinstalled the original spring, and added the new spring also. I installed the third spring in the middle of the plate. Problems with agitation completely ended for $2.50 spent. Miy tub also indexed too, but I understand that is caused by a problem with the brake assembly being shot. (haven't got around to replacing that yet.) Still, it washes pretty good, even with the tub indexing somewhat. Good luck. Les.

 

[robbinsandmyers]

I found a timer online for $127.00 plus Im getting a motor spring kit also. This should finally take care of this beast but at least I know what I have which is better than todays garbage. Hopefully the timer is a direct fit. Again, I cant thank you guys enough you've all been awesome. I will deff keep you updated on my progress. John.

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Hmm, ordered a timer from a few sites and my order got cancelled as NLA. Anyone know of a timer source? Thanks.

 

[LaVidaBoem]

Post the part # of the OEM Maytag

We'll see wht we can do...

LaVidaBoem

Post Script:

2 on ebay, if its Maytag 204889

http://www.ebay.com/itm/204889-AP40...068074?hash=item1a0a8b8f6a:g:MMEAAOSw8-tWaHJI

 

[robbinsandmyers]

As luck would have it I found a new one for $115.00 ( Cheapest online price I could find) and a motor sping and slide kit for $28.00. Wish I checked here first on my comp when I got home instead of a fast Google phone search at my shop. Oh well. Should be here in about a week. Heres hoping.

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Hi guys. While doing clothes today I noticed when its spinning there was a knocking noise coming from the tub. I took the agitator off and noticed the upper seal is starting to leak a small amount trans fluid. Im not getting any spotting on the clothes though. How hard is this to change and should I replace the bearing also as is has some play? Why am I getting the feeling Im going to end up over hauling this beast?!?

 

[LaVidaBoem]

How Much?

Hello,

 

How much play, side to side or end play?

 

How much fluid?

 

Did you mean that the knocking is coming from the "play" you speak of??,

If so, yes maybe time for a tranny...If anyone has a new one on ebay...they are usually cheap.

I have a few in stock...

 

The tub removal & seals, and spin tube sleeve are not that hard "here", just depends on how much corrosion is under those seals as you tear down to the  outer tub.

Some, I have had to grind off tub nuts, sleeves on the transmission. etc.

But you know...when you do a few...they just seem ordinary.

 

Its not uncommon to find a tub anchor bolt working loose...will make a heck of a knock.

(The ones the springs hook onto from bottom to top)

 

All will have a little fluid, but if its side play...no seal can stretch but so much.

The action of the agitator causes water to be pulled down, and pushed out from under the agitator.

It might not show up on clothes if using hotter washes, plenty of detergent.

 

Let us know a little more...but I have a reason that you got it for 50 bucks to begin with is becoming apparent.

 

LaVidaBoem

 

 

 

[robbinsandmyers]

I know, you may be spot on with that assesment of price. Right now Im in a holding pattern until the timer and motor slides and springs come in but I plan on removing the motor and spit shining the slide area clean then greasing and reinstalling the motor with new slides and springs plus the timer as the trans belt is still slipping. The tub indexes which means a tired brake assy I guess. Its also still slowing to a crawl on the rinse cycle when its spinning even if I turn the water valve off so it can spin the rinse water from the load it never comes back up to speed just spins about 1/4 as fast as it should. I just put it in spin with a dry tub and I can hear a "hiss " which is telling me the radial tub bearing is tired and should be replaced which isnt hard if I had the spanner to remove the brake unit which I would also replace. The knocking I think may be the spin tube sleeve which again doesnt look hard but I havent the spanners. Another symptom I have is when its on its first wash cycle and I push the button from "Normal" to "delicate" it stops agitating. "Permanent press" makes no change at all, it just seems to agitate at normal speed. Im hoping someone here in CT will chime in that has the spanners I could borrow for a fee because I would replace all that needs replacing and be good for many years with this thing. As it is I cant trust it to run through a complete cycle like it should.
I did take a pic of the top of the trans with the agitator off but for some insane reason when I try to upload them half the pics on my folder dont even show up to down load through the site. Do I have to change the format? I hope this hasnt gotten too long winded but Im trying to give as much info as possible. Maybe if I can remember my youtube password I will try and download a video. Thanks again. John.

 

[LaVidaBoem]

I hear you...

Just a note...the spanner wrench is dirt cheap off EPray.

Note too, that an entire trans is only about a bill, and that covers a bunch.

 

Good Luck,

LaVidaBoem

 

Post Script: Picture format now?

Use IrView (IrFan View) to quickly do it pic editing...its the bomb.

http://www.irfanview.com/

 

[robbinsandmyers]

I just hate buying three spanners I will never use again. Should I look for a new counter balanced trans of go with the orbital one? The orbital one looks cheaply made.

 

[LaVidaBoem]

Hey there>>Long stroke for me...

I am sure those orbit jobs do fine, have some here in the collection.

 

But I prefer hands down the long stroke.

But I like the long stroke even better with a dual action agitator, even if you can't close the lid!

 

Good Luck,

LaVidaBoem

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Well I'll keep my eyes open on Ebay I guess. I may buy a brake assy and radial tub bearing and try to tackle it with what tools I have here. Can the upper trans bearing/seal assy be replaced? I would give that a shot too.

 

[LaVidaBoem]

Yes,

The seals can be serviced...just remember if the play you spoke of is too great, ie.,stretching the seal too much...it'll leak anyway.

Must replace bushings/bearings to kill any play.

 

I got my books today from the fellow member, haven't had time to open yet...I wanted to be able to put some pages up for all, just have to learn how to do that, and have time.

 

I'll see if later I can send you the ones on the upper part/neck of the tranny.

 

LaVidaBoem

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Yeah Im having a very hard time uploading pics. Not sure why theyre there when I go into my files but disappear when I open thr file through the upload link here.

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Wrong timer

Got the timer today and they goofed. Sent me a #204899 for $115.00 so I called and will ship it back for refund, not to mention it was used in an open bag when they stated new. Used your Ebay link and got the #204889 for half that. I will use the saved cash towards a brake unit and radial bearing?!? Many thanks again.

 

[LaVidaBoem]

Well, Hot 'Dern It...

I can't stand things like that...

I do well on EPray, but I will tell you, it happens to all of us.

 

I have bought 3 dishwasher racks for my Kenmore Ultrawash with the part # from Sears crossed over, and got 3 different ones over the last so many months...finally bit the bullet and got a top that will work...still using one of the bottoms that I took the rollers off to make work...

So, I know the frustration too.

 

I got scanner/printer problems...don't know, haven't had time to see what's wrong.

Anyway, I have you about 5 to 6 pages, that I don't know any other way than to copy them on the office one, and mail them too you...no charge, just as the other fellow member did for me.

 

Email me here, and I'll be glad to send these out, you may not get them until Wednesday or Thursday of next week...

 

Hope this Helps,

LaVidaBoem

 

[combo52]

New brake and radial bearing

A radial bearing is either bad or it's not. If it's bad it will roar when spinning.

The brake assemblies never go bad unless they screech horribly when the machine is stopping.

I would save your money for other parts that you're much more likely to need in the future.

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Thanks for the advice on those. Im just wondering on the brake assy as the tub is indexing while the wash is agitating. What would cause that? I wonder if its the tub bushing that could be making noise and not the radial bearing? I have a funny feeling if I cant replace the top transmission seal and bushing that its going to need a trans. It left a brown spot on two towels last load. Im really wishing I didnt buy this and waited for a better one but it was from a trusted friend.

 

[combo52]

Indexing on a Maytag washer

Can be completely normal and doesn't hurt a thing. If the radial bearing is badit will sound like a freight train When it is spinning with no load in the machine.