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I was a little concerned when I took it out of the box, as the flange and mount are ISE. I would have been super PI**ED if this was just another redressed ISE!!

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WHEW!!

with the guard removed, it does not look much like ISE inside. The disk is solid cast, and very similar but not exact to Hobart's design

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another shot..

The ring is very similar to Hobart's too, way more substansial than ISE's stamped SS ring

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Jeff

Is that what you are going to hook up the KDS-17 to? It doesn't look like it has a wham-jam button. Does it use a wrench to unjam? Is it auto-reversing?

Fred
 
this is the smaller model,

3/4 HP motor, auto reversing, with the jam wrench. The TOL model has the *wham Jam* button in addition to the wrench, and is 1.0 HP
 
fixed impellers

The disk is solid cast, not sure what its made out of though, but it is substansial
 
Very nice Jeff! I will be looking forward to hearing how you like it!

I almost went and tried to find one of these but in the end went with the 1HP 777 ISE. I also considered the Waste King as I may have mentioned, but I would have had to send away for it, and someone was available to do the work right away so I got the ISE at Homo Depot.

I'm very happy with it. It's nice and quiet and I think it will be great for what I need. The sink flange has the new style logo which made me happy. I also got a new 8" sink to replace the cheap kaka 6" $39 one, and the Dishmaster faucet that I wanted and love.

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installed and running

30 minutes to install it, fitting perfectly with the existing pipes.
The motor is whisper quiet, it sounds like and ISE motor, very smooth, AND its capacitor start!
as a test I fed it a lemon and a couple of potatoes. They disappeared pretty quick, with NONE of the clunking impeller sounds normally heard with an ISE.
so far so good, and yes Fred, it will be connected to the KDS17.
Can't wait to get that installed!
 
Great dispoal Jeff!! I will look forward to hearing how you like it. Just curious how much more the next model with the "wham jam" button cost? Terry

Very neat looking faucet Scott!!
 
Next model up is:

$349 I believe... this one was $299.
In all the years I've had disposals I've never had one jam on me...well unless my mom uses it...
 
well...

The store I bought this from had one of the old Hobart style ones left, priced at $425. I would have bought it, but I think it was too large, and the drain outlet too low to work in my kitchen.
The KDS-17 will be installed sometime next month, when I was at Fred's this past Sunday we removed the front panels and I have given them to my dad to paint. Currently the KDS17 is coppertone, but will be black for my kitchen, and should blend in perfectly.
I have always felt that fixed hammer disposals were better than the swivel ones, so we'll see how this one fares.
 
Thanks for the information Jeff. When you see those prices you can see why builders today put those cheap ass disposals in new construction. The last time I was at the new house they still hadn't put the disposal in but I am betting that it is a 39.00 GE.LOL That KDS17 is going to look stunning in your kitchen, can't wait to see pictures. Terry
 
Looks like a beauty Jeff. Just keep the bones out of there. The disk is different from the old Hobarts, but it looks very solid. There is more insulation around the body than the old hobart MOL, too.
Bobby in Boston
 
looks great Jeff

I have always wanted a garbage disposal. I think my next appliance purchase will be a diswasher, the GE is 16 years old. Hope your Maytag is going strong too. I had to get a new car, I was in an accident last week so the red Mercury has gone bye-bye. Take care now. Gary
 
gary,

Once you have a disposal, you'll never go back! I am sorry to hear about the car, glad that you are ok though!
 
Fred, the Dishmasters are really wonderful. I don't have a dishwasher currently, but even if I did I would still like it for those things you do by hand, overflow and the like. It's so much easier and more enjoyable than filling the sink with water (which I always manage to slop around) and easier for rinsing too.

They were around a lot when I was growing up and I hadn't seen one in a long time and assumed they'd gone out of business. Then when I moved out here, I saw them again and couldn't wait to get one!
 
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I have to admit thats a beautiful faucet Scott!

Are they expensive??

I like the Imperial 4 model myself
 
Jeff, I think mine was like $169, and the Imperial 4 is usually arond $150. The Imperial 4 does have a cool retro look to it, and is the type I've been experienced with until I got this one. The I4 has the soap container right in it, whereas mine it's a jar under the sink. I put it right by the door so it would be easy to get to.

I thought I'd get the I4 for a long time, but I like the fact that the hose retracts below the surface on this one, and having always preferred single-handle faucets, I worried that I'd miss that.
 
Not a bad price...

Considering some faucets at HomoDepot are $200+, and not nearly with the character of a Dishmaster!
 
Thats one nice disposer-not an ISE-Yes-like the old Hobart design.Has a CAST shred ring and the fixed hammers on the flywheel-note the serrated edges of the flywheel-that means anything caught between the wheel and the shred ring will be thoroughly shredded before leaving the machine.these are good for folks on septic tanks-well ground waste decomposes in the tank fast.And the wheel serrations act as undercutters-cut up stringy matter.The "inserts" on the fronts of the hammers look like stainless steel or something.You should be able to do some serrious grinding with that one.--but with the fixed hammers--listen carefully as it shreds-when the shredding is no more you can shut it off-but Don't turn it off if you still hear something being shredded-otherwise it will jam BADLY.I may have to look into one of these to replace a machine in my sink that hasn't been used in years-and parts are missing from it.The start cap and motor starter-reverser.
 
So THATS how it works!!

I had noticed the serrations in the flywheel, and the amount of teeth kinda below the surface I thought it was kinda odd the teeth would be so short.
I haven't had too much chance to feed this machine anything beyond coffee grounds and some potato peelings, and now I am even more curious how it will handle stuff.
I am not used to the fixed hammer design, I could always tell when the other disposers were done by their sound, this one is SO quiet I can't tell when its finished!
 
If you thank thats expensive

The .75 horsepower ISE that we got as a rebuilt model RRP's for $890AUD The 1HP ISE is a little over $1000AUD. There was a large batch of the .75 ISE's that made it AU that experienced Motor seal failure within the first 6 months. A friend of ours did the warranty replacments for ISE and as they didnt want the old machines back, he was installing the upgraded seal kit, and 2 years on our $50 disposer is chugging along well.

You can get a crappy Badger for about $200 but they rust and fail pretty quickly.

After we got ours, our nextdoor neighbour decided to replace her Badger also. We reccomended the .75HP model, and she baulked at the cost. So she bought another Badger and now complains how it doesnt eat anything fibrous, and that Onion skins have to be manually removed :)
 
onion skins...

I have yet to know a disposal that would eat onion skins... usually they go right thru and just clog the drain!
 
I'd say we're lucky and our drains are good

The .75 ISE doesnt leave much behind, it doesnt like Avacado Skin, and it struggles with corn cobbs, but for the usual stuff we do, like onions, potato's, greens etc, it just washes them away :)

The Badger before it, didnt flush things down the drain, it just left them sit in the grinding chamber until they had decomposed enough that they'd wash away.
 

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