My Viking has arrived

[abcomatic]

looks great Jeff

I have always wanted a garbage disposal. I think my next appliance purchase will be a diswasher, the GE is 16 years old. Hope your Maytag is going strong too. I had to get a new car, I was in an accident last week so the red Mercury has gone bye-bye. Take care now. Gary

 

[hoover1060]

gary,

Once you have a disposal, you'll never go back! I am sorry to hear about the car, glad that you are ok though!

 

[scott55405]

Fred, the Dishmasters are really wonderful. I don't have a dishwasher currently, but even if I did I would still like it for those things you do by hand, overflow and the like. It's so much easier and more enjoyable than filling the sink with water (which I always manage to slop around) and easier for rinsing too.

They were around a lot when I was growing up and I hadn't seen one in a long time and assumed they'd gone out of business. Then when I moved out here, I saw them again and couldn't wait to get one!

 

[hoover1060]

dishmaster

I have to admit thats a beautiful faucet Scott!

Are they expensive??

I like the Imperial 4 model myself

 

[scott55405]

Jeff, I think mine was like $169, and the Imperial 4 is usually arond $150. The Imperial 4 does have a cool retro look to it, and is the type I've been experienced with until I got this one. The I4 has the soap container right in it, whereas mine it's a jar under the sink. I put it right by the door so it would be easy to get to.

I thought I'd get the I4 for a long time, but I like the fact that the hose retracts below the surface on this one, and having always preferred single-handle faucets, I worried that I'd miss that.

 

[hoover1060]

Not a bad price...

Considering some faucets at HomoDepot are $200+, and not nearly with the character of a Dishmaster!

 

[tolivac]

Thats one nice disposer-not an ISE-Yes-like the old Hobart design.Has a CAST shred ring and the fixed hammers on the flywheel-note the serrated edges of the flywheel-that means anything caught between the wheel and the shred ring will be thoroughly shredded before leaving the machine.these are good for folks on septic tanks-well ground waste decomposes in the tank fast.And the wheel serrations act as undercutters-cut up stringy matter.The "inserts" on the fronts of the hammers look like stainless steel or something.You should be able to do some serrious grinding with that one.--but with the fixed hammers--listen carefully as it shreds-when the shredding is no more you can shut it off-but Don't turn it off if you still hear something being shredded-otherwise it will jam BADLY.I may have to look into one of these to replace a machine in my sink that hasn't been used in years-and parts are missing from it.The start cap and motor starter-reverser.

 

[hoover1060]

So THATS how it works!!

I had noticed the serrations in the flywheel, and the amount of teeth kinda below the surface I thought it was kinda odd the teeth would be so short.
I haven't had too much chance to feed this machine anything beyond coffee grounds and some potato peelings, and now I am even more curious how it will handle stuff.
I am not used to the fixed hammer design, I could always tell when the other disposers were done by their sound, this one is SO quiet I can't tell when its finished!

 

[brisnat81]

If you thank thats expensive

The .75 horsepower ISE that we got as a rebuilt model RRP's for $890AUD The 1HP ISE is a little over $1000AUD. There was a large batch of the .75 ISE's that made it AU that experienced Motor seal failure within the first 6 months. A friend of ours did the warranty replacments for ISE and as they didnt want the old machines back, he was installing the upgraded seal kit, and 2 years on our $50 disposer is chugging along well.

You can get a crappy Badger for about $200 but they rust and fail pretty quickly.

After we got ours, our nextdoor neighbour decided to replace her Badger also. We reccomended the .75HP model, and she baulked at the cost. So she bought another Badger and now complains how it doesnt eat anything fibrous, and that Onion skins have to be manually removed

 

[hoover1060]

onion skins...

I have yet to know a disposal that would eat onion skins... usually they go right thru and just clog the drain!

 

[brisnat81]

I'd say we're lucky and our drains are good

The .75 ISE doesnt leave much behind, it doesnt like Avacado Skin, and it struggles with corn cobbs, but for the usual stuff we do, like onions, potato's, greens etc, it just washes them away

The Badger before it, didnt flush things down the drain, it just left them sit in the grinding chamber until they had decomposed enough that they'd wash away.

 

[hoover1060]

badger

I had a Badger 5 in my last apartment, it was dreadful!! I remember putting a lemon rind down once and two days later it was still there and still whole...
I had to chuck ice cubes in it to get it to chew, and heaven forbid if I put too much down at once, it would totally gag and just stop!!
I'd call the Badger series a disposable disposer!

 

[scott55405]

Have to agree with you there Jeff! There was a dead Badger here, ever since I moved in last fall. I was buying furniture and this and that and just got to redoing the sink setup now. I'd had one in the 80s and that was fine, but the last one in Minneapolis was not good, and this one had been dead. The man that did the work and I decided they put Drano down it, which is a huge no-no. So much Drano had been used that part of the pipes and a connecter were eaten away and it was held together with electrical tape. It's actually good it held as long as it did. The Badger was all rusted and petrified and nasty inside, and he found all kinds of nasty stuff in the pipes, and said I was headed for problems had I not done the work. Everything is new and working beautifully now!

 

[tolivac]

I have fed many disposals onion skins and have had no problems-esp if they are mixed with other types of waste-than the hammers and shredders can deal with the onion skins.That Viking machine shouldn't have a problem-remember the serrated flywheel-if any onion skin gets between the flywheel and stationary shredder-they will be mulched.On Badgers-remember the stationary shredder-shred ring and their flywheels are stampted zinc plated steeel-since the zinc is soft-wears away fast-their hammers are stainless steel-Badgers corrode away around their swivel hammers.For a cheap disposal-they don't do too bad.Builders and apartment house operators love them-they are literally disposable.they can by them by the case!!Have seen a csse of them in a storage room in an apartment building I lived in.Like a box of 4 of 'em.One badger in my apartment ate a whole #828 transmitter tube and came back for more-We worked on a stations Tx and the shorted 828 just had to go!Dramatic end for it.Would have liked to see the bits of it in the Apartment building plumbing clean out point!

 

[hoover1060]

Original Badgers

Had cast hammers, made from the same material as the disk. They were not as heavy as the cast SS hammers on the more deluxe models, but they ground much better than the ones with the cheapie stamped SS hammers. One problem with the cast hammers in the early Badgers is they tended to rust themselves to the disk, so they wouldn't swivel very well, causing the machines to stall/jam alot, especially the 1/3 hp models. If you fed them slowly, they were champs though!

 

[tolivac]

Yes-I had a Badger where one of the hammers was frozen-not from corrosion-but a bone sliver that wedged under it-was like that so long(the former occupant of the house the machine was in must not have run it much)yeilded to prying free with a screwdriver-than the machine worked OK.Replaced it with an all SS ISE 333 I beleive it was-was abetter machine .The water in the Northern Va area was corrosive.The Badger parts were corroding away-the Badger-no doubt was put into the townhome by the builder.No-didn't run any 828's thru that one-its parts were too corroded.Would have liked to see a Badger with the cast hammers-no doubt would be more effective than the flail like hammers in later Badgers-the flail like ones would have been more efficitve if they were turned at a higher speed-much like a flail mower-its flail blades are very light-but spun very fast-the flail mower will cut thru all type of grass and brush.

 

[insulinpumpuser]

Badgers SUCK!!!!!

Hi, all. If I had to HAVE a badger, then I guess I would do without a disposer. My mom had her badger for 5 years. It clogged badly, so I was plunging it really hard with a plunger, and the whole gawddamned thing just fell off to the cabinet floor. So, I got a GE disposall from WM and it is solid as a rock!!!!!......Bill in Az.....

 

[insulinpumpuser]

Badgers SUCK!!!!!

Hi, all. If I had to HAVE a badger, then I guess I would do without a disposer. My mom had her badger for 5 years. It clogged badly, so I was plunging it really hard with a plunger, and the whole gawddamned thing just fell off to the cabinet floor. So, I got a GE disposall from WM and it is solid as a rock!!!!!......Bill in Az.....

 

[tolivac]

the GE disposer would be MUCH better than the Badger.The GE has a better stationary shredder-better flywheel with small cast flail like hammers-and the flywheel is spun by a higher speed PM DC motor.If it was an older GE-the even higher speed universal motor.I hated to see GE abandon the carboloy stationary shredders-they could grind up almost anything dropped in the machine.The Badgers housing must have rotted away enough-so that the plunging of the stopped plumbing caused it to fall.Thats another problem with badgers-their cheap cast metal hopper-it rots and corrodes away from the water and food chemicals-than falls apart.Seen that on Very old ones.Oh well love 'em or hate 'em Badgers can be fun.

 

[retromom]

Viking Velocity!!

Wow Jeff! That thing looks like it could swallow a whole turkey!! I'd still be wary about onion skins and potato peels! After a couple of clogs involving that food group, I've learned that no disposal is invincible!!

Enjoy (and watch your fingers ;-) )

Venus