Need some repair help with Kenmore 110.72450110 washing machine

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Soo glad I stumbled to this site!

I have a Kenmore (whirlpool) washing machine that was apparently made in 74.

I think there is a footie or knee high that keeps clogging the drain pipe.

First time it happened I tilted the machine to drain water remaining in the tub and once water was drained, turned button and it ran fine for a few loads.

Now it is at it again, I figured out how to get the top off and set it to the side, thinking I could get the cabinet off, but it seems glued/welded into one piece.

Cannot get the white rim to come off far enough to see into that small space between the outer and inner tubs (sorry I don't know the parts lingo) to see if there is something there.

Also cannot get hands into that pump or whatever it is that the drain hose attaches to...

any guidance would be much appreciated... my total monthly income is hovering around $600 to $700 a month and I just cannot afford a repair person or the laundromat and gas to get there on a regular basis.

much appreciation for any guidance.

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Hey there Runabout.

I am about to head to lunch here at work but I'll try to offer you some pointers when I get back. Cool machine - that is a rare 1974 Kenmore 500 series.

Short and sweet though, tilt the whole cabinet forward and lay the machine on it's front if you can. The area to focus is that white-ish looking cylinder that looks like a plastic cup. The blockage is probably in that vacinity or in the plumbing heading to the pump.

If that is not it, your lint filter may be clogging. If your machine has a cone-shaped filter in the right front corner (looking from the back of the machine) they were prone to clog and a replacement was devised years ago.

More when I get back.

Gordon
 
thanks KenmoreGuy.

I am off to laundromat to rewash and dry the contents and should be back in a few hours and will check your advise.

Really appreciate it!
 
Runabout -

Now that I can think a little bit more clearly, here's what I can tell you:

First, the cabinet won't come off this machine. The cabinet is it's support, you can get everything else off before the cabinet.

If you remove the tub ring as you were thinking, you might be able to shine a flashlight in between the inner basket and the outer tub and see if anything is 'hanging around' in there. The gaps are narrow enough in this type of washer that socks etc have caused a non-spin condition from blockage, so it is possible that something got into the hoses and is blocking them. To get the tub ring off, remove the tub ring clips (looks like you may have already) AND the snubber in the back right corner. You'll need either a 3/8 socket or a 1/2, I forget which. Disconnect the fill hose from the flume and tuck it under the left rear corner gusset. Carefully lift the ring up. It may pull the tub ring gasket with it. You may find the gasket has some rust particles in it. As long as they aren't colossal chunks, the gasket can be re-used if you clean it well.

There is a tub drain at the 7 o'clock position, and the filter feed hose (called a side check valve) at about 9 o'clock. Concentrate your looking there. This perspective is from the front of the machine.

If that doesn't reveal anything, do what I was saying before and look underneath at the plastic drain trap. You may want to disconnect the pump hoses or take it off all-together if you can, and look at the filter. My money is on the filter if you don't see anything obvious in the tub or trap. If you suspect the filter, take it off the machine and hose it out with a pressure nozzle - it may yield some surprises.

I have done a lot of work on machines like yours, and this situation for me would be a search and rescue (or destroy) mission because these are not always the same problem over and over. You may even have a bad pump, though I don't know why tipping it forward would have done any good before.

So, I wish I could be more affirmative with a sure answer, but this should give you some avenues to check into.

Good luck!

Gordon
 
One other thing...I should stop here with my advice, but it looks like the machine was last run on the Perm Press cycle? Do you use that much?

If you do, you may want to experiment with the Normal cycle for anything other than delicates. See if you notice any differences. Perm Press uses considerably more water and spins out less of it, making dry time longer. You can save in both departments if you use the Normal cycle. My 1986 Kenmore has never run the Perm Press even once.

Gordon
 
Normally uses the normal cycle, just put the dial there to s

thanks for all the info...

not clear how to get access to those hoses

- seems like getting them off may not be bad, but the space is really tight to get them back on - not much room for hands to fit...

should I be able to get to the hoses and that pump/filter easily by going up through the bottom of the machine when I lay it down on its front?

thanks a bunch!
 
An aunt of mine had the 1973 version of this, although I am not sure of the model series. The filter is prone to clogs, as I remember her having it serviced because it was not draining properly only to have the repair man discover it was a clogged filter creating the problem.

Nice washer. I hope the issue is an easy correction.

Have a good one,
James
 
have "thrown in the towel" on self-repair

repair guy is giving me a discounted rate on his service call and we'll work out finances if it requires lots of labor or expensive part... real good guy here

wished I could have sorted it out on my own - thanks for all the help that was offered...

yes she seems like a goodie... I was shocked at how small the washers at the laundromat were compared to this gal... had to use 2 washers to handle a home size load...

thanks much and I had no idea there were so many people so into the oldies... I think it is responsible to keep them in service instead of trading perfectly fine equipment in for new bells and whistles... especially when they seem like they are made from tin foil...

after looking at some of the machines on here, I will probably keep an eye out for some of the well maintained older ones when I finally become properly employed again~! somebody posted some really great looking pink ones... not normally into pink, but those were awesome!

thanks again~~~~
 
A proper investment would be...

A repair manual for the older belt driven Whirlpool/Kenmore washers. They can be found anywhere and will give you enough insight (and courage) to do future repairs yourself. That is a nice washer and the sense of happiness achieved by taking care of her yourself is worth it. Once you get your bearings on how it's put together, you'll find it a very easy machine to work on for the most part!

RCD
 
Question....out of curiosity......this model is supposed to have a self cleaning filter according to your post....but looking at the pic there is no hose in the left hand side coming up and out the back of the machine from the check valve as most SC filter set ups do.....just puzzled....

I have had too many of the cone shaped filters break at the molded seam at the bottom......if a replacement could not be found....I usually put in a "L" plastic fitting and clamped in place....machine ran fine and owners never seen a difference in lint from before until now.....but this is a quick bypass to rule out the filter...
 
reply to volvo and yogi

Volvo, just up the road in Dayton and if I ever decide to part with it, I will post it here, where I know it will be appreciated.

Yogi... not sure what exactly you are speaking of... but there is a small diameter clear hose that the pic may not show clearly. If you are looking at the front of the machine, just like you are going to use it, it is in the back right hand corner.

My HVAC/appliance guy will teach me what I need to know for any self repairs. He is fantastic and will have my business for life.

Thanks much for all the support!
 
most all self clean filter kenmore/whirlpools have the drain spout above the water valves....

filter flo models have the drain port coming out the bottom of the machine

only a model with a self clean filter mounted to the outter tub drains out the bottom
 
Yogi / Martin,

Somewhere in late 1974/early 1975 the tub-mounted self cleaning lint filter debuted. Runabout's washer has a tub-mount filter. If it was a 110.72450100 instead, it would have the clog and leak prone cone filter. This model was obviously still available and in production when the filter change was made, and the 110.72450110 had the tub-mount incorporated into it, hence the engineering change in the model number.

You're very observant in noticing the lack of a drain hose to the top of the cabinet, but this is why, as the tub-mount does indeed drain at the lower end of the cabinet.

Gordon
 
Filters

KenmoreGuy64
Just two quick questions without totally hijacking this thread.
1. What conditions are required to clog the early filter and what are the repercussions?
2. Is it easy to convert an early 1974 filter to the later redesigned 1974 filter?
If needed, I'll start a new thread.
 
calling Gordon/Kenmore 64

Hey Gordon,Haven't heard from you. Please give me a call if you would still like 3 pieces I have for you,so we can get them to you. Also,do you have the avacodo 70 series kenmore belt drive you mentioned? I saw a picture in one of your posts of one without a timer.That is the model I am looking for. Take care,call soon please,thanks,Walt
 

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